Talk:Gabe Amo

Redirect removed

Is there a reason why the redirect was removed after the AfD closed as redirect? StartOkayStop (talk) 01:05, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

As of a few hours ago, Amo won the Democratic nomination for RI Congress 1. The notability situation has certainly changed since that AfD. In my personal opinion the article should have never been redirected in the first place, especially not hours before votes began in a primary election. Blind adherence. How would you suggest we better handle this situation? - Skipple ☎ 02:51, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

I don't think it's necessarily fair that the consensus reached at an AfD discussion is overridden so soon, and by a user not involved with the original deletion discussion. To your point about the notability situation changing-- I believe that winning a primary is different from winning the election, and that was my understanding of what was said in the deletion discussion as well. Either way, I don't have strong feelings towards the fate of the article; at the least, I am concerned with the possibility that this article will continue to be edited (as it often was before protection was added) by people who have a COI or will not adhere to neutral point of view. And, what do you mean by "Blind adherence"? StartOkayStop (talk) 03:15, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

While I totally recognize I'm attempting to WP:CRYSTALBALL here, Amo is the Democratic nom in a deeply blue Congressional District. Unless extraordinary circumstances occur, he will almost certainly be the Congressmen from RI 1 come November. My suggestion is that by blindly adhering to NPOL and the AfD, we are ignoring the fact that we are deleting an article hours prior to a primary election involving that individual. This, in my opinion is irresponsible and in doing so we are ignoring the main goal of Wikipedia. This is the perfect circumstance to ignore the rules. As the page wasn't WP:SALTED I don't believe there is any restriction to when the page can be re-created, especially when circumstances surrounding the subject change, but perhaps the closing admin can answer that for us. @Liz: Any chance you could clarify? - Skipple ☎ 04:24, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

The last time I remember we ignored the rules for a candidate that was sure to be elected, the candidate lost. See WP:Articles for deletion/India Walton. - Enos733 (talk) 17:22, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

The thing is Walton was not running for a position that provided WP:NPOL, so the article had to rely on GNG anyways. Curbon7 (talk) 21:00, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

I disagree. I think many people in that discussion saw Walton as a complete shoo-in as she was the only candidate on the ballot. In this case, there is a Republican nominee who will be on the ballot. And while this is a very likely Democratic district, this is still WP:CRYSTAL thinking. - Enos733 (talk) 03:14, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

I think you misunderstood what I said. What I am trying to say is that the mayor of Buffalo is not an WP:NPOL-conferring position, meaning that even if Walton had won the election she would still have to pass WP:GNG. Curbon7 (talk) 04:00, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

I do agree with you, coverage of a mayor must be much more than "they exist," but that was not what the deletion discussion focused on. Nearly all keep voters there said something like her primary victory has been "almost universally recognized as tantamount to election," since there was no other candidates on the general election ballot. Only a couple participants talked about the quality of the sourcing, with at least the nominator pushing back suggesting that the coverage at the time was routine for candidates. - Enos733 (talk) 05:03, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

I think it was a mistake to redirect the page two days before the election, just when the candidate's actual notability was at its highest for voters seeking to educate themselves before voting. (In a deep blue state, the Democratic primary *is* the election in most cases, the general election is a formality.) Rhode Island being a small state, this election got little media coverage, and voters had to do their own research to educate themselves about the candidates; Wikipedia is a valuable resource for this. Llajwa (talk) 16:14, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

(Thanks to RhodeIslandHistory for taking the initiative to remove the redirect. Llajwa (talk) 16:18, 6 September 2023 (UTC))

@Llajwa I can't say I agree with this specific position. Wikipedia isn't meant to be a directory of political candidates. Furthermore, what value does a potential voter get out of looking at a Wikipedia article as opposed to, say, a single local news source? The decision to redirect the page also was not related to the election, as the AfD was open for weeks before. StartOkayStop (talk) 16:28, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

• The redirect should be restored. The underlying reason for the redirect remains. We are not a WP:CRYSTALBALL, especially in predicting election results. --Enos733 (talk) 17:17, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
  • The redirect was a bad decision before the election and it would be a worse decision now. --The Cunctator (talk) 13:01, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Now that he's won the primary, it's probably fine. 2 days turnaround must be a record. Curbon7 (talk) 20:58, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2023

can the article be updated to reflect that he has won the election ? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/former-biden-aide-gabe-amo-wins-rhode-island-house-special-election-rcna122109 67.220.13.29 (talk) 01:28, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

 Already done Cannolis (talk) 03:46, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2023 (2)

In regards to the Gabriel Amo's birthday, change 1987/1988 to December 11th, 1987. BlurryLens3105 (talk) 02:30, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 03:47, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2023 (3)

Add birth date (December 11, 1987) per Legistorm here https://www.legistorm.com/person/bio/461974/Gabriel_Felix_Kofi_Amo_Jr_.html Maddcazva (talk) 04:16, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

 Already done - Appears Therequiembellishere has completed this here. - Skipple ☎ 14:18, 8 November 2023 (UTC)