Talk:Genesis Rodriguez

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The article read "She is known for her roles in the Telemundo television telenovela series Prisionera, Dame Chocolate and Doña Bárbara." This string of words contains "series" which is ambiguous as to singular vs plural number. The word series is followed by a string of words which constitutes an appositive to the term "series." Thus it would have to be set off by a semi-colon (since there are commas in the list). The simple solution to the diction is to just say "telenovelas," and delete "series." The punctuation problem is solved by adding "entitled" after telenovelas, then there is no appositional structure which requires a comma or semi-colon for embedded commas�. (EnochBethany (talk) 02:44, 18 February 2014 (UTC))

Requested move 19 July 2017

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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain ^t/c 14:43, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

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Génesis Rodríguez → Genesis Rodriguez – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Her own personal verified Twitter, verified Instagram and verified Facebook pages spells her name without the accented é and í and presume she knows how to spell her own name. IMDb reflects that and credits shown at IMDb for released projects have only a few credits using the accented vowels. Most articles in English that mention her on other pages reflect the lack of accents. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:41, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

• Support, of course, as proposer. WP:COMMONNAME is fairly clear here. I personally checked my copy of Big Hero 6 (film) to verified how credited in that project. IMDb is generally accurate for credits of released projects and generally get the info from official sources. Sources in English about her other projects are fairly standard in not using the accent marks. Spanish language sources do use the accents but most of her work is in English on US projects. This is likely a variation of standard orthography between Spanish and English but we should be using English standard for spelling on enwiki. Particularly for an American actress born in the US and who works in the US. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:50, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Considering that his father is Venezuelan, in his birth certificate his name may be written with accents, which I do not know exactly; But since she began her career as an actress has been credited as "Génesis Rodríguez" As you can see here.--Philip J Fry :  Talk  23:54, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

@Philip J Fry: I assume you meant to write "Considering that her father is Venezuelan, in her birth certificate her name may be written with accents". You may be right - but we don't have that as a source. Or they could have dropped the accents just as well and went with a English orthography, still no source. What we do have is how she, herself, spells her own name now. I am not surprised her early work in Spanish uses Spanish spelling standards but that does not appear to be how her current credits are listed and current projects are in English. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:17, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

This is fine, but considering that he is better known for his projects in Spanish, I think the right thing would be to leave the name as it is. Actually his most outstanding role was "Doña Bárbara".--Philip J Fry :  Talk  00:25, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

@Philip J Fry: I understand your reasoning, I just think weight of other credits matter more. I tagged you comments as oppose. That looks to be your intent so hope that is OK with you. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:32, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

I am not opposing anything. I just want to comment on this so that it is taken into account, maybe later other users will appear with some more effective contribution on this matter.--Philip J Fry :  Talk  00:39, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

• Support, as accentless is how she is credited in TV series such as Time After Time. Can anyone point to roles in which she was credited with the accents included (esp. English-language roles, aside from the one appearance on "Conan")?... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 00:52, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
• Question how does the actress prefer her name is pronounced? In ictu oculi (talk) 07:00, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

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Requested move 8 December 2018

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The result of the move request was: not moved (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 14:46, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

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Genesis Rodriguez → Genesis Rodríguez – It is true that when people are born in the United States, their names do not have an accent. And it is understandable, but the surname is that of the father, and he was born in Venezuela. Therefore, the surname must go with an accent. Philip J Fry ^{(talk) (cont)} 06:46, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

• Comment It would be Génesis Rodríguez with Spanish spelling on both. Is she really better known for Spanish-speaking roles? Would tend to oppose. This isn't a case like Puerto Rico's only Olympic Gold medalist who was stripped of her Spanish name by Wikipedia (the only Puerto Rican we've done that to), it's an American actress who had success on Spanish-speaking TV. I would say restore Puerto Rico's Olympian first, and worry about this later. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:25, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose – we've been over this before: she is consistently credited for English-language roles as "Genesis Rodriguez", and as that what's she's been doing predominantly lately, the "English spelling" of her name is the WP:COMMONNAME. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:55, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
• C Abstain - I lean towards WP:COMMONNAME in this case, although the Spanish spelling must also be considered.--~Sıgehelmus♗ ^(Tøk) 18:24, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

I honestly think we should just follow nationality. To single out individuals is largely OR and a bit creepy, aside from being subjective. In ictu oculi (talk) 20:46, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

When she began his career he was also credited with accents in their names. The last name is the father's, not hers. And that one has an accent.--Philip J Fry ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:01, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. I'd maybe lean towards the accents if the actress used them herself, but all her social media profiles just say "Genesis Rodriguez", so there's no evidence she uses them herself. Nohomersryan (talk) 22:09, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose. We go with the reliable sources, unless the subject of the article has explicitly expressed a preference to do otherwise. Rreagan007 (talk) 07:26, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

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