Talk:Francesco Landini

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Aza24 in topic Naming changes

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Was he famus —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.192.183.69 (talkcontribs) .

Yes, he was. He was the most famous composer of the 14th century in Italy. He also partied hard (see Andrea da Firenze). Antandrus (talk) 22:56, 15 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

being lazy, sorry edit

I made some changes to the article based on my understanding of the most recent scholarship in English and Italian. I was a bit lazy and didn't justify all the changes (except in the change log), but I think there's nothing too controversial that you can see in a perusal of recent literature. But feel free to revert if someone demands citations for everything that conflicts with what else is on the web.

My general inclination would also be to change most of the references from Landini to Francesco: more and more of the most careful scholarship has been moving in that direction (not that this was necessarily influential, but see [1] for some arguments for that.) There are some general music history books coming out in the near future which use Francesco throughout to refer to the composer, but as they're not out yet, they can't be used as evidence for WP, so I'll leave it for now. But won't revert if some other forward-thinking editor chooses to do so. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 02:24, 13 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Landini and Petrarch edit

Hi LuceStella -- you added a ref. to Landini being close to Petrarch based on the "Dolce Nova" book -- can you add what evidence that book uses? I can't find that book anywhere, ILL reports not a single copy in the US: given that it's an unusual statement, I'd appreciate further evidence. Thanks! -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 13:02, 17 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Naming changes edit

Just wanted to note that scholarly consensus is changing and more and more scholars are using "Francesco degli Organi" (or w/ lowercase "o") to refer to the composer. The last four dissertations and articles I read all used that name. I'm not sure that a few years of scholars adopting the new name is enough to override decades of usage yet (and for disclosure/COI, it was my 2006 dissertation that made the main argument for dropping the name "Landini") but I wanted to write this in case a proposal appears in the next couple of years. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 21:13, 28 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Interesting—was not aware myself. I would agree that the change may be too incremental at the moment to warrant a move (yet). If only there was more scholarship on Landini... particularly compared to the endless attention Machaut receives... Aza24 (talk) 22:14, 28 November 2022 (UTC)Reply