Talk:Fort Yellowstone

How much history to include?

A question for all you Military historians and National Historic Places people. Out of the GA review above is the suggestion that more information about the Army in Yellowstone should be included in article. The dilemma faced is that the article originated as an article on a place (a facility) that is an Historic Landmark not as the History of the US Army Administration of Yellowstone. There is a boatload of content that could be added related to US Army establishment and enforcement of policies, interactions with visitors, the civilian government, concessionaires, and daily Army life in Yellowstone including biographical content on some of the most notable Army personnel. However all this is somewhat tangenial to or not even related to the physical Fort Yellowstone facilities. Question: Is there sufficient historical content in the article now or should it be expanded? --Mike Cline (talk) 19:14, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

My usual advice would be to be guided by the balance of reliable secondary sources (e.g. if histories of Fort Yellowstone typically include a section on the famous visit of President Roosevelt, or on the problems of life in the garrison, then the article should too, etc.) A fort is rarely just a physical location, but is also a garrison, a community and part of the history of a location. In terms of examples of how a couple of featured articles on fortified locations have integrated the political, military and social histories of sites with architectural material - each in different ways - try Fort Ticonderoga, Tower of London or La Coupole. Hchc2009 (talk) 09:31, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

I would think a more detailed administrative history of Yellowstone should be placed at History of Yellowstone National Park (or "Administrative history of..."), if your assertion about quantity of available content is correct and can usefully expand on what's in the main Yellowstone article. A summary of the military period here would be useful. In this article I would focus more on the use of the structures. I'm not the reviewer, but I bet a lot of those buildings aren't used for the purpose they were originally built for (I presume the "hospital annex" is probably no longer used as such; are the barracks still used as staff housing?). Given that the significance of the buildings is at least partly architectural, more description of how their use has changed in the 100 years since their initial military use is called for. (FYI I worked on Fort Ticonderoga.) Magic♪piano 16:51, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

A nice article! It's the role of the fort in the administration of Yellowstone I'd envisage being expanded on, rather than the administration per se. Agree with you about the potential to expand on the evolution of the buildings, especially in terms of tourism etc. 17:39, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Pre-FAC issues

• Re the Bachelor Officer's Quarters photo -- how can it be 1909 (see caption) when it was taken in 2008 and is in color?

  I'm adjusting all the captions...--MONGO 23:15, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

• On my screen there is a HUGE white gap after the 1911-1913 section. Consider cutting a photo or two.

  Moving one to area above and removing at least one or all those in the gallery...well, I looked at it in 1280X724 or similar and see no crowding issues...but I'm happy to use just one image and move the rest off the article.--MONGO 23:15, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

• FN 38 isn't really a FN, suggest put it in a notes "efn" section

  Okay..got that.--MONGO 00:03, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

• The main infobox photo should have a USGOV NPS tag not a generic USGOV tag; same with CampSheridan1900, the Company M one (or Army tag), NCO 1974 photo, Fort Yellowstone Cavalry Barracks 1974.jpg, DoubleBarracks, West Thumb Soldier Station YNP.jpg (not sure of date taken--look at uniforms), Fort Yellowstone Chapel, MountUSArmyCavalrymanYNP.jpg, USArmySoldieronGuarddutyFortYellowstone.jpg (maybe Army tag),

Hope it helps PumpkinSky talk 21:06, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

• Got those all cleaned up...--MONGO 23:15, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

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