Talk:Ernesto Geisel

Birth year

There is a controversy around his birth year: was Ernesto Geisel born in 1907, ou 1908?

Among those who believe he was born in 1907 is wikipedia, and a long list of other credible sites:

1. Ernesto Geisel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - President Ernesto Geisel · Enlarge. President Ernesto Geisel ... Ernesto Geisel (August 3, 1907 - September 12, 1996) was a Brazilian military general and ...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernesto_Geisel - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
2. Lexikon Ernesto Geisel - Ernesto Geisel. Ernesto Beckmann Geisel (* 3. August 1907 in Bento Gonçalves RS... Ernesto Geisel durchlief eine militärische Ausbildung und gehörte zu den ...lexikon.freenet.de/Ernesto_Geisel - 25k
3. Rulers Index Ge-Gj Geisel, Ernesto (Beckmann) (b. Aug. 3, 19071, Bento Gonçalves, Brazil - d. Sept.12, 1996, Rio de Janeiro), president of Brazil (1974-79). ...www.rulers.org/indexg2.html - 68k
4. at google, the query "ernesto geisel 1907" returns 5080 entries

Among those who believe he was born in 1908 is Britannica, and a long list of other credible sites:

1. Britannica: Geisel, Ernesto Brazilian army general and politician (b. Aug. 3, 1908, Bento Gonçalves, Brazil--d. Sept. 12, 1996, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil), was president ... www.britannica.com/eb/article-9113173
2. Ernesto Geisel eo autoritarismo nacionalista - ... nascido na cidade de Bento Gonçalves em 8 de agosto 1908, de pai alemão ...Igualmente pesou na escolha do nome do general Ernesto Geisel o fato do seu ...educaterra.terra.com.br/ voltaire/brasil/2003/11/24/003.htm
3. Nationmaster Encyclopedia: History of Brazil (1964-1985) Ernesto Geisel (3 August 1908 - 12 September 1996) was a Brazilian military general and politician. ... Although not immediately understood by civilians, ... www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/ History-of-Brazil-(1964_1985)
4. at google, the query "ernesto geisel 1908" returns 4940 entries

--Andrev 15:22, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

General Ernesto Geisel was born in the night of August 3, 1907. His birthdate was changed to protect him if his exams results weren't in his admission to the Army's School (Colégio Militar). His birth register was changed in 1920 on the book and the person who wrote it had a calligraphy completely different, if compared to the other registers. (GASPARI, Elio. A ditadura derrotada. São Paulo: Companhia das Letras, 2003. p. 31, footnote 21). 200.218.228.105 14:25, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation

It would be good to have an indication (preferably IPA, of course) of how his name is pronounced; to what extent had the German name been Brazilianized? I tentatively say /ʒeiˈzɛl/ myself, but it would be nice to know. Languagehat (talk) 15:22, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I remember a German Television report at the time Geisel was "elected"; they interviewed common people somewhere, not in a region of predominantly German origin; and one man spontaneously answered the question for the new president: "Geisel", and it sounded just like in German. Hellsepp 01:04, 2 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hellsepp (talk • contribs)

I am Brazilian and I have never heard his name pronounced in a "Brazilianized" way. His name has allways been pronounced in the German way.In fact, if someone reads his name as if it were a Portuguese word, the vast majority of people wouldn't understand.189.13.118.3 (talk) 06:11, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Heavily biased article

This article seems to create justifications for Geisel's excesses without providing proper citations. Does anyone disagree? Zelani (talk) 21:17, 9 August 2015 (UTC) Zelani (talk) 21:17, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

I agree. It has a heavily pro-regime slant. To read it you'd never imagine that Geisel was a dictator who personally authorised the mass murder of opponents. 5.80.55.112 (talk) 21:07, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Surname

Ernesto Geisel never had a maternal surname. His civil name always was "Ernesto Geisel". It may appear unbelievable, but the page of the Brazilian National Archives repeats an error on the Portuguese Wikipedia (already corrected). It seems to be a case similar to the "Vatican flag error (Wikipedia had the wrong Vatican City flag for years. Now incorrect flags are everywhere)". Geisel's birth certificate can be viewed in this link (it's necessary to have a free account to access his page, unfortunately). Dantadd (talk) 22:33, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Post Presidency

There is nothing in this article about his exit from the Presidency, transition of power to João Figueiredo or his life Post holding presidential office. LienEmpire (talk) 22:13, 3 December 2023 (UTC)