Talk:Emma Black (footballer)

Requested move 5 June 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved to Emma Black (footballer). Though participants appear to have agreed with the nominator's argument that Emma Black is now the footballer's WP:COMMONNAME, they were unconvinced that she was the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the name "Emma Black". Thus, the discussion resulted in a consensus to move the footballer's article to Emma Black (footballer) and the painter's article to Emma Black (painter), and then to use the primary title Emma Black for a DAB. (closed by non-admin page mover) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:13, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

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• Emma Fernon → Emma Black
• Emma Black → ?

– WP:COMMONNAME per [1][2] Joeykai (talk) 02:16, 5 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 04:33, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Note: pages with content, such as Emma Black, are ineligible to be new titles in move requests unless they, too, are dispositioned. "Emma Black → ?" had to be added to this request to meet that requirement. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 08:41, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

• Alt: seems easy enough
  • Emma Fernon → Emma Black (footballer)
  • Emma Black → Emma Black (painter)

then have a disambiguation page at Emma Black. Seany91 (talk) 14:27, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 18:56, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose as proposed, and instead support Seany91's eminently more sensible alternative. GiantSnowman 18:58, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Last name change

Irregardless of the result of the RM above, per MOS:CHANGEDNAME, she should be referred to as Fernon in the article text before her marriage and Black after. I don't know when the marriage happened, or if that's public information; that should be added if such, I may dig for it later. The other thing I'm worried about right now with just changing pre-marriage instances of her last name to Fernon, outside of the fact that I don't know the exact range that "pre-marriage" is, is that it might confuse the reader on the first mention with the way the article is currently formatted (compare with Courtney Love#Life and career and how it introduces the subject by their birth name because that section goes back to her birth).

The best solution here may just be to expand the article if possible, I'm not sure. Just wanted to note this since there's an RM around her name right now. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 05:19, 19 June 2023 (UTC)