Talk:Dyess Air Force Base

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Odin&Sleipnir in topic Pins of air force

Base Realignment and Closure, 2005

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In order for this template to be displayed on this page we need to have some information pertaining to BRAC and this facility. Because their is no information on the page, I am moving the templete here until the information can be uploaded. For more information, click here.TomStar81 03:46, 28 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

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A B-1B from the 7th Bomb Wing releases a Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile over the White Sands Missile Range, N.M.

Magnolia677, your deletion makes no sense. You keep saying "this article is about an airport in Texas; you've added a photo of New Mexico" First off, it is NOT about an airport, it is about an air force base, which is very, very different. Trust me, I have over 20 years experience as a dependent then an airman myself. Next, the section is "Modern Era" and this plane represents the most advanced plane and the primary mission of that air force base. There is no way to be more topical than this. Finally, it doesn't matter that the plane is over New Mexico. The mission of Dyess isn't to fly planes over Texas, it is to fly them all over the world. Most of the time when a B-1B is flying, it is over someplace besides Abilene, Texas. It can NOT drop a Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile over Abilene, it would hit Wylie or Potosi or Phantom. There is no missle range in TYler country.... The White Sands range is the closest range to Dyess, so of course it is there. The photo is of the plane (Dyess's mission), not of New Mexico. So yes, I expect to add it back unless someone has a better idea. I'm open minded, but this "New Mexico" argument doesn't hold water if you know anything about this topic. Dennis Brown |  | WER 16:46, 2 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

I see your point, and I'm curious to read the input of others. This article is about an Air Force base in Texas. The article even lists the coordinates of the base, as well as the city it's located in. There are squadrons who fly out of this base, and each squadron has its own article. If you have a photo of one of these squadrons at Dyess Air Force Base, then it would be a great addition to this article. If you have a photo of one of these squadrons in action 500 miles away from the base, it doesn't make much sense adding it to this article. Instead, add it to the article about that squadron. Let me use an analogy. United Airlines has a hub at O'Hare. So, if you have a great picture of a United Airlines plane at one of the gates at O'Hare, add it to the O'Hare article. If you have a great picture of a United Airlines plane flying over Virginia, it doesn't really make Wiki-sense adding it to the O'Hare article, does it? Instead, add it to the United Airlines article. I'm not saying don't add these great pictures of these amazing planes and soldiers, I'm just saying, don't add a picture of a plane flying over New Mexico to an article about a place in Texas. Furthermore, you should note that I personally have over 20 years experience dealing with people who begin their arguments with statements like "I have over 20 years experience" (and thus you should defer to my incredible wisdom bla bla bla). Magnolia677 (talk) 17:22, 2 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
If we were talking about an airport, then yes, I completely agree. When you talk about a military base, primarily you speak of it's mission, not its tarmac. Dyess primary goal isn't to be an airport. As a matter of fact, in wartime, they won't use the flightline at Dyess at all, they will move the planes to the theater. It's mission is to fly F-1B planes, drop bombs on enemies, break stuff and kill people, which is the role of the military. The photo shows a B-1B dropping a bomb, ie: rehearsing it's mission. It can't do that near Abilene. I was born at Dyess and lived in Abilene, so I'm familiar, but it is true of any military aircraft. They only do dummy bomb runs at a few special facilities where the government owns insane amounts of land, because it is very, very easy for a bomb to go dozens of miles off target. You do that outside of a special bomb range, you can kill civilians. You will never see a bomber dropping a bomb near its home base, unless maybe you are talking about Edwards or Area 51, both of which are in the middle of the desert. That is my point. Doing practice runs far away from home is not unusual, and is in fact the only way you will be able to photograph a bomb being dropped.Dennis Brown |  | WER 17:44, 2 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
This article makes use of "infobox military structure" and "infobox airport". Is there some Wiki guideline that states that articles about military structures and military airports are intended to discuss the mission of the squadrons who use the facility, and post pictures taken hundreds of miles from the structure or airport? If there is, then why does each squadron have its own article? What about Yeager Airport, which is a shared civil/military airport? On that article, each squadron has its own article. While you certainly have expertise on this topic, I'd be curious to hear the input of others. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:13, 2 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
I want to hear others as well. I am not an expert, I'm just very familiar, so I won't say "I know" as much as "I'm pretty sure" I do want to make it clear, Air Force bases never use "airport", it is always about the flight line. Yeager Airport? That might be different, I don't know enough about it, I'm just talking pure military bases and the fact that you can't have a photo of a bomber dropping over Abilene itself. (Thank god, I still have lots of friends there ;) You might drop a line at one of the military history wikiprojects as well, they would be more likely "experts". I'm fine with whatever the consensus is, even if I'm on the other side. Dennis Brown |  | WER 20:01, 2 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
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Pins of air force

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I was wondering if anyone can help find an image of a complete collection of U.S. Air Force pins. I have a colonel pin from my pops and i want to see a complete is of them so I can check them off as I get them. Plz @ me a photo along with the names and ranks for each one. Thx! (ᚠ)[L](ᚠ)[U](ᚠ)[C](ᚠ)[K](ᚠ) Odin&Sleipnir (talk) 05:53, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply