Talk:Dima Yakovlev Law

Latest comment: 2 years ago by K8M8S8 in topic POV

Rename edit

"Dima Yakovlev Law" and "anti-magnitsky law" ([1],[2],[3]) are unofficial names of this law. Official one is: Federal law of Russian Federation no. 272-FZ of 2012-12-28. This format of Law names was already used for Federal law of Russian Federation no. 139-FZ of 2012-07-28 (earlier: Russian State Duma Bill 89417-6) `a5b (talk) 00:15, 29 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Per WP:COMMONNAME, we should move this to Dima Yakovlev Law, which is more descriptive, if unofficial. Gobōnobō + c 20:07, 13 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yes, absolutely. Official or not is irrelevant. But unfortunately, it can not be moved back to Dima Yakovlev Law after modification of redirect page made by A5b. My very best wishes (talk) 20:16, 17 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Executive Order On Measures Concerning the Implementation of Government Policy... edit

There was a text in the article, which I deleted

and formally Executive Order On Measures Concerning the Implementation of Government Policy on Orphaned Children
and those without Parental Care,<ref name=kremlin>{{cite web|title=Executive order on measures to protect orphaned  
children|url=http://eng.kremlin.ru/acts/4811%7Cwork=Russian government|publisher=Office of the President of the Russian   
Federation|accessdate=28 December 2012}}</ref>

This bill has status "bill of president" (executive order of President; Russian: "Указ Президента") and is named in russian "Указ «О некоторых мерах по реализации государственной политики в сфере защиты детей-сирот и детей, оставшихся без попечения родителей».". Its page on russian version of kremlin.ru: http://www.kremlin.ru/acts/17234

But Dima's Law has status "Federal Law" and it is only signed by President. Its name is "О мерах воздействия на лиц, причастных к нарушениям основополагающих прав и свобод человека, прав и свобод граждан Российской Федерации" ("On Sanctions for Individuals Violating Fundamental Human Rights and Freedoms of the Citizens of the Russian Federation"). There is english page about it on kremlin.ru: http://eng.kremlin.ru/acts/4810 (russian: http://www.kremlin.ru/acts/17233 - with full text of law and short note about it at the end).

So, there are two documents signed on the same day, one is "Order..." to "improve government policy on orphaned children" and second is (Federal Law) "On Sanctions" and one of its article (#4) prohibits adopting of russian children `a5b (talk) 00:23, 29 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

And "law of scoundrels" name? --Jugydmort (talk) 19:47, 7 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
http://eng.kremlin.ru/acts/4810 : "On Sanctions for Individuals Violating Fundamental Human Rights and Freedoms of the Citizens of the Russian Federation." `a5b (talk) 19:01, 19 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

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This article misses a list of Russian children killed by Americans. As well it misses attempt of Russia to negociate with US - Russian goverment proposed that US will provide information on well-beeing of Russian children adopted by US and check families which adopted them periodically but that was rejected by US. This article is another piece of anti-Russsian propaganda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.165.173.131 (talk) 09:11, 3 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

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In addition to above, the US did not ratify the UNICEF Convention on the rights of the child. The Convention demands that inter-country adoption is just a last resort. Each orphaned child shall remain in its biological family and if it is not possible, then the adopted child shall be aware of its biological and cultural roots and regularly maintain communication with its biological family. The Hague convention is a root cause for intercountry adoption to become a demand-driven market. Read more Against Child Traficking. Bear in mind that every single day of year dies around 7 000 children wordwide, because of hunger, diseases, and poverty. These unfortunate children are not in demand for inter-country adoption rather those who are white, healthy, of blue eyes and fair hair.--109.93.67.114 (talk) 18:09, 9 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

See Russian children's rights ombudsman wants to end foreign adoption--24.135.1.22 (talk) 06:29, 12 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

How is the fact, that United States had not ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child, relevant to the article devoted to Russian law? How is the fact, that Western families don't adopt African and Asian kids (by the way this is false statement by itself), relevant to the article devoted to Russian law? I suggest to close the discussion and remove the NPOV template. K8M8S8 (talk) 13:51, 18 March 2022 (UTC)Reply