Talk:Derafsh Kaviani

better word

Dear all, "Banner" or "standard" is a better word for a "flag" not made of cloth. I made some appropriate corrections to avoid confusion by other readers. Mrjahan, Ocr. 25, 2006.

Image

The picture is not that bad. It is not far from description of this flag that I found in Encyclopedia Iranica. For more information see [1]--Larno (talk) 20:20, 23 August 2008 (UTC) BTW, Drafsh Kaviani didn't have any eagle sign. The eagle sign was in Achaemenids' flag--Larno (talk) 20:28, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

What is the source for the other version of the Kaviani with the Farohar and the calligraphy? Naddum (talk) 15:20, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

I could ask the same to you about the other flag: What is the source for it? --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:33, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

The plain Drafsh-e-Kaviani without the Farohar and calligraphy is seen on Persid coins and Indo-Parthian coins during the Arsacid era, and on the paintings at Bagawat showing Sasanian warriors. I cannot post the paintings because they are copyright by the Met Museum. The star is yellow and the background is red, and they are seen on shields: Sasanian warriors, Bagawat, 6th - 7th Century.

Now, what's your evidence? Naddum (talk) 15:50, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

There is no source given for the banner/flag image used in this article to illustrate the subject of the article. The same image is used in many other Wikipedia articles, compounding the omission. Nor is there any indication of its source on the commons entry - and on its talk page someone points out that surviving examples consist of just a simple four-petalled flower. It must be based on an actual historical representation or it risks being classed as OR and subject to deletion. BTW, this four-petalled flower motif is also found in Armenia (on coins, architectural motifs, etc.) Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 17:59, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

I agree, had wondered about that...--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:45, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Maybe it should be replaced by the plain star/four-petal motif that you had asked the graphic workshop guys to fix? The [2]. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 16:18, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Ah - I see you already have changed it! So make the above comment just a support for that change (since it is, it seems, being contested). Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 16:22, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

BTW, this image [3], used in an earlier versions of this article and disputed because it too had no source, was perhaps derived from this coin: [4] Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 16:35, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

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do Not forget the Lotus

the symbol on the Derafsh Kaviani is 4 stars with a Lotus. I refer you to the beliefs and inscriptions of ancient Iranians Chamroshduty (talk) 21:01, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Persian Red

the red color has nothing to do with Iranian color, use Persian Red color to reconstruction the Derafsh. Chamroshduty (talk) 12:41, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

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