Talk:Cornelius Gurlitt (art collector)

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Tony 1212 in topic Terminology: "stash"?

Hamburg in Schleswig-Holstein? edit

Living in Schleswig-Holstein I'm fascinated to learn that Hamburg is part of this German state. Next thing will probably be that Washington belongs to Pennsylvania or that London is in Sussex. Has anybody ever read such ... in a good old printed encyclopedia? What in the world makes so many people believe they should write publicly about things they have no more knowledge of than an elementary school kid? 84.141.133.223 (talk) 11:41, 11 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Fixed it. The Gurlitt family is from Altona (Hamburg), originally part of Danish Holstein and annexed by Prussia after the Second Schleswig War. Gurlitt's forefather Louis Gurlitt chose the German side in the conflict. -- (talk) 13:19, 11 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

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This article was redirected and merged to 2012 Munich artworks discovery per consensus reached at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cornelius Gurlitt (art collector)) on 9 September 2017; I have unmerged it again today following relevant discussion at Talk:2012_Munich_artworks_discovery#Cornelius_Gurlitt, and will improve the article as needed utilising additional sources over the next little while. Tony 1212 (talk) 01:57, 13 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Terminology: "stash"? edit

User Eli185 has changed some wording in the lead, introducing the word "stash" to the article for the first (and only) time. I am not 100% against this, but it smacks of the early sensationalist news reports before the true complexity and history of the collection was further revealed. In my other edits I have used "collection" but there are other terms possible too (cache?). Just wondering what other may think of the best terminology to describe the collection. Cheers Tony Tony 1212 (talk) 08:35, 6 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Just to expand the above... in my mind, "stash" has connotations of (1) stolen property, and (2) hiding to evade detection. In these respects, first, Gurlitt (Cornelius) had not stolen anything, it was an inheritance from his father Hildebrand; also there was never any suggestion that Hildebrand had himself stolen anything, although he may well have purchased items from others who did (as well as purchasing other items quite legitimately, and inheriting yet others from family members). Second, Cornelius did not really stash them out-of-sight, they were simply kept in his apartment (plus his Salzburg property), not shown to others because he liked his privacy. Therefore if no-one objects, I will revert "stash" back to "collection" in a while (allowing a few days for others to comment if they want to). Tony 1212 (talk) 06:58, 7 February 2021 (UTC)Reply