Talk:College Hunks Hauling Junk

Deletion

Hello editors, I had previously started writing this article, incorrectly believing it was on my sandbox. it was marked for deletion, but editors kindly moved it for me to complete the work. I believe I have now complied with wikipedia guidelines and have referenced sufficient sources. Please let me know if there is anything else needed. Kind regards, Sunflowerhealing (talk) 01:13, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Avoiding conflict of interest while providing up to date accurate information

Hello all, I am the National Field Coach for College Hunks Hauling Junk and Moving. Part of my responsibilities include providing both marketing and non-marketing information on the organization, such as on Wikipedia. I am somewhat new to the wikipedia landscape and while I find it to be an amazing community and place, I am a bit confused as to how to properly go about updating content without violating conflict of interest clauses.

Of course I do want to promote our organization, however my objective is (no pun intended) to be objective and provide content that is relevant to the business we run and the audience that would be seeking to find out more about the organization. I intend only to add value to the Wikipedia audience and to ensure that the content they are viewing is true and accurate in the way it represents College Hunks Hauling Junk and it's history and actions.

I would be more than happy to work with an independent party to provide them with the raw content that I believe is relevant and objective and allow them to determine the proper way to integrate it in with the existing article content without violating wikipedia policies.

I apologize if any of the edits I had made previously to this or other pages violated the intent of the wikipedia project. Please contact me or post here if you are going to remove content I add or if you would like to act as an independent 3rd party to which I can provide content for consideration and placement on the page.

Thank You,

Christopher Jackson National Field Coach College Hunks Hauling Junk and Moving ChrisTheHunk (talk) 17:55, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you to McGeddon and a couple more questions

I wasn't sure if the best place to post this was on my user talk page or here on the College Hunks Discussion Page. So I am putting it on both for now to make sure it is seen by McGeddon.

Thank you very much McGeddon, that was an extremely thorough response and I greatly appreciate you taking the time to give me your feedback.

With regards to the name, how would you recommend I go about having a College Hunks Moving specific wiki page created then, since moving is a major part of our business, one of our main service offerings, and growing rapidly? As you can see on this page, College Hunks Moving is in fact an official business even if not referenced in the URL directly.

http://www.collegehunkshaulingjunk.com/moving

Press Release about the addition of College Hunks Moving to the College Hunks Brand: http://www.prlog.org/11452136-college-hunks-moving-into-the-future.html

It is important to us that our clients have objective information available to them in order for them to make an informed decision about College Hunks Moving. It is increasingly difficult for us to do this without being able to reference the name in the title of the page as it will be much harder for those looking to locate the information they are seeking.

I will look into the other issue you raised and get back to you about that.

Thank you again ChrisTheHunk (talk) 21:13, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

NPOV and COI Tags

I have disputed the placement of the NPOV and COI tags on the College Hunks Hauling Junk page. The dispute can be referenced on the following user talk page User_talk:ChrisTheHunk

Should no case be stated for why specific content on the page lacks objectivity or proper citation by 5pm EST, I will remove the NPOV and COI tags and consider the dispute to be resolved. Should you wish to add cited content to the article which you believe provides a more neutral, objective view, please do so at any time.

Also, please do not remove content containing citations without proper explanation for your deletion.

ChrisTheHunk (talk) 16:07, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

It is inappropriate for the editor who caused a conflict of interest / spam problem to start laying out deadlines for removing relevant tags. Actions such as that really look bad when you're trying to save an article.

Putting that aside, you seem to be making an effort to improve this article by adding sources. However, it's still full of promotional material written in a promotional tone. That's why the conflict of interest policy is in place - when you're this close to the subject, it's very difficult to be objective. I'm not even sure that the company is notable enough for an article at all, as there won't be much content left w/o the problem text (see WP:CORPDEPTH for relevant guidelines).

In any case, please take the time to understand and implement the policies and advice left here and on your talk page. You'll find that most editors are very ready to help out if they feel that you're acting in good faith. If it seems that you're just stubbornly trying to cling to some free wiki-advertising, though, the entire article is likely to be deleted. Just my 2 cents... Zeng8r (talk) 23:04, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I see that you've completely ignored my advice and the advice of every other editor who has repeated the same suggestions about your behavior on this article. Oh well, let the chips fall where they may. Zeng8r (talk) 23:45, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I have not ignored any advice. I have been working tirelessly to improve the article. I have been conferring with McGeddon about how to improve the article and have improved both the tone, content and cited sources in the article. I am not acting any way other than in good faith, however I am not at the same time content to leave tags that misrepresent the content when no case is being stated as to why any particular content is being raised into question. ChrisTheHunk (talk) 00:02, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Notability

Notability has been established with multiple reliable secondary sources. I'm removing the tag. Postoak (talk) 02:34, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Effortless Entrepreneur

How does this book relate to the company? It was written by the company founders, however is it about the company? The synopsis at Random House describes the book as a "how to" guide for a new business. [1] This paragraph may need to be removed from the article because it doesn't appear to be about the company. Postoak (talk) 03:26, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Reply from ChrisTheHunk

The book Effortless Entrepreneur is written about how Friedman and Soliman started College Hunks Hauling Junk. I will use the first link below to cite in the article.

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[[3]] ChrisTheHunk (talk) 04:56, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I expanded the paragraph a bit, hope this helps. Additional references linking the book to the company are needed. Also, consider combining the TV and book paragraphs into one "Media" paragraph. Postoak (talk) 06:11, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Recent cleanup

@Nolabae323: This article appeared in my watch list again and I noticed a series of new edits that were clearly promotional plus a lot of similar older material that was added after the last discussion on this talk page. The policies against promotional material on Wikipedia are already linked in the previous discussion above. Specifically today, I removed a "further reading" section that was simply a list of news articles and company press releases without context plus some mention of awards that were cited only with a company press release. I'm willing to work with editors who are willing to be fair and factual, so if you (Nolabae323) think that some of some of the deleted material should be restored, I'll be happy to help with wording and citing and such. As it was written, though, it was clearly beyond the bounds of WP:SPAM and had to go. Thanks. --Zeng8r (talk) 14:08, 26 November 2019 (UTC)