Talk:Chu Berry

A stub no more!

Having made extensive additions and changes to this article, I have removed "stub" from its classification.

WV project, not OH

I am changing its Project from "OH" to "West Virginia". The man was born and raised in WV! That is of more importance than the chance occurrence of his death in OH.

Your comments are welcome! DutchmanInDisguise (talk) 14:50, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Chu's middle name

I've seen Chu's middle name listed as Brown in several places. It would make sense, since that was his dad's first name. I found a guy that looks like Chu in the 1930 census -- 21-yr-old musician living in a hotel on St. Nicholas St. in Harlem. He's listed as Leon B. Berry, born in Virginia. Close? Does anybody have any authoritative source for or against him being named Leon Brown Berry? DutchmanInDisguise (talk) 02:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, I sort of answered my own question -- It's Brown on his death cert, for which his wife was an informant. I'll leave it that way unless somebody can convince me otherwise. DutchmanInDisguise (talk) 18:19, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

What should the name of Chu's article be?

I was just looking at Chu's what links here page, and wondering whether we shouldn't just call his article Chu Berry, instead of Leon "Chu" Berry. There are lots more links from elsewhere in wikipedia to Chu Berry than to Leon "Chu" Berry. Perhaps some wikiexpert can enlighten me on this question? -- DutchmanInDisguise (talk) 15:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I may not have made myself perfectly clear in my 13 Dec posting. I received the following response on my personal talk page:

Glad you contributed to the discussion of Chu Berry. The two articles are linked, as the same article. A code called redirect (#REDIRECT) links the two. (Go to Chu berry, you will reach Leon Chu Berry; go to the blue hyperlink for Chu Berry shortly from top of page, then click on its "history" and you'll see the redirect code.) One is the actual article (Leon "Chu" Berry).Dogru144 (talk) 20:34, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

I know quite well what actual articles, and hyperlinks, and disambiguation pages, are. What I was trying to say was that since most jazz fans are likely to be looking for just Chu Berry, and since there are at least twice as many links to plain old Chu Berry, instead of to Leon "Chu" Berry, in other articles, why not just make Chu Berry be the actual article and Leon "Chu" Berry be the redirect page. This would be in keeping with the little statement which appears at the bottom of disambiguation pages:

This disambiguation page lists articles associated with the same title. If an internal link led you here, you may wish to change the link to point directly to the intended article.

In other words, cut out the middleman! I probably would have plunged in and moved the actual article to plain old Chu Berry, but just wanted to be sure somebody agreed with me, and that I wouldn't run astray of some arcane wikipolicy or offend jazz fans, or administrators, or whomever.

So, what do you think – leave things the way they are or rename the actual article? -- DutchmanInDisguise (talk) 06:56, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Y Done. The article name is now "Chu Berry". -- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Gyrofrog! -- DutchmanInDisguise (talk) 01:37, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

The Chu Berry saxophone?

There continue to be a lot of changes to the section of Chu's page which pertains to a Conn saxophone which may or may not be correctly named for him. When I made some major updates to his page more than a year and a half ago, I left that section alone because I had never even heard of this instrument. It looks like the correctness or literary quality of this relatively minor section continues to be a big distraction. My personal feeling, as a Chu fan and as a jazz student, is that the section should either be deleted, put in a separate article, or made into some kind of footnote.

What does anybody else think? -- DutchmanInDisguise (talk) 18:51, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

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This has already been discussed on the relevant talk-pages, but I'll put an entry here for future reference, so that others can see it in the months/years to come. There definitely needs to be reference to so-called "Chu Berry saxophones" on the Chu Berry article. So-called "Chu Berry saxophones" are sold via eBay (and other websites) every day of every week, month after month. It's been going on for years. Here's the latest batch (what you see here is just the tip of the iceberg), but if you go back and look at eBay a few years from now you'll probably still see a few being mis-sold. At any given time there are usually half a dozen listed on eBay. As soon as the current crop of "Chu Berry" saxophones are sold, others appear on eBay and the myth keeps on propagating. Click here and and you can quickly see the problem for yourself:-

http://musical-instruments.shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=chu+berry+saxophone&_sacat=619

Unfortunately, a major misunderstanding has built up re. what comprises a "Chu Berry saxophone", and it's one that's endlessly propagated on the internet. To some people *ANY* saxophone (regardless of type, design or model number) made by C.G.Conn between 1910 and the 1930s is a Chu Berry saxophone. People just don't know any better and there's nobody correcting the misunderstanding. The basic problem is that the term "Chu Berry saxophone" has no universally accepted definition, so very few of the saxophones being sold under that moniker are of a type actually played by Chu Berry. By including an explanation of the pitfalls of using the term "Chu Berry saxophone" on Wikipedia, it's possible to correct the misunderstandings out there which do a disservice to Berry's reputation. - Nabokov (talk) 14:20, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

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Greetings: I am new to this, but I notice the date of birth in the header differs from that of the synopsis on the right. Also, the date of death in the article differs from that of the header. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clamchucker (talk • contribs) 01:31, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Greetings: I am new to this, but I notice the date of birth in the header disagrees with that in the synopsis to the right. Also, the date of death in the header disagrees with that in the article. Clamchucker (talk) 01:35, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

WVU Edit-a-thon 2023

I will be making edits for an edit-a-thon that I am participating in at WVU. Kath2023 (talk) 20:31, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

I hope that your edits have gone well! Rhizomesandranch (talk) 15:16, 31 March 2023 (UTC)