Talk:Chin Peng

Sungei Siput killings

At the time (June 1948), I believe that the government did not know whether the 3 Sungei Siput killings were done by the MCP or not. Was it ever actually established that the MCP had been responsible for those killings? Maybe, but I have not encountered a source that says so. The article very much needs to cite some solid source material on this; an actual quotation, at least in the footnote, would be excellent. -- User:Chroma liberator, May 2007.

No-one took credit for the killings, but the killings which followed and were carried out by the MCP carried the same hallmarks of those killings. Eyewitnesses were certain of the events. What grounds do you have for suspecting that other groups might have been involved? docboat 09:20, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

In his book My Side of History, Chin Peng confirms the Communists were responsible but he says it was a local initiative of which he was not aware (pp 214-222).--Jack Upland (talk) 11:46, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

External Links

The Online Biography (knowledgenet.com) appears to be a dead link. I will perhaps remove it in a while if nobody reports it having worked for them.

The Project Sitiawan link doesn't appear to have much to do with Chin Peng. It's a gallery of photographs, mostly of some schools. Should we keep it? -- User:Chroma liberator, May, 2007

Chinese Malayans???

What is that? What kind of an animal??? Please rectify it - there is not such a thing as a 'Chinese Malayan'. George —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.129.26.213 (talk) 12:11, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

What's the problem? Yes, Malaya is now part (a large part) of Malaysia. So would Chinese Malaysian be acceptable?--Jack Upland (talk) 11:41, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Name

There is a helpful heading at the start:

This is a Chinese name; the family name is Chen.

However, this was a pseudonym and I've never seen him called "Chen". He is sometimes called "Chin", but I wonder if this is appropriate.--Jack Upland (talk) 11:38, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Death

Media reports that Chin Peng died today (16 September 2013). Irony is today is also Malaysia Day.

http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/se-asia/story/former-malayan-communist-chief-chin-peng-dies-bangkok-age-90-20130916

OBE

There are plenty of sources which say that Chin Peng received an OBE, but I'm not sure that's true. In My Side of History (pp 191-192), he tells a somewhat complicated story, which might or might not be true. He says he received a letter from the British government about the award in 1947, and says he was inclined to accept it, but on the advice of a party intellectual did not respond. He says the British might have interpreted this as a snub. He concluded that they later withdrew the OBE without having awarded it in the first place.

I can't find any record of the award, or the withdrawal. He is not on the List of revocations of appointments to orders and awarded decorations and medals of the United Kingdom. There is an entry in 1949 for 'Man Wai Wong (appointed 1947), following his conviction for outlawry in Malaya.' Is this another pseudonym???--Jack Upland (talk) 09:42, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

PS The 1952 Time article states he wore his OBE in the 1945 Victory Day Parade in London, but this could well be just journalistic embroidery.--Jack Upland (talk) 22:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

In fact, War Memory and the Making of Modern Malaysia and Singapore, by Karl Hack and Kevin Blackburn, (p 63), specifically states he didn't attend the parade.--Jack Upland (talk) 08:49, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Age at Death

There seems to be some discrepancy as to his age at death. His Guardian obituary notes:

This obituary was amended on 30 September 2013. Chin Peng's age at the time of his death was corrected from 89 to 88.

It gives the same dates for his life as Wikipedia does, however, which would make him 90, almost 91. A clue might be that the obituary says:

Chin Peng (his nom de guerre) is said to have been born in 1924 in the Malayan state of Perak.

Is there a dispute about this? What does his autobiography say?--Jack Upland (talk) 22:53, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

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Ng reference

This is a master's thesis and we should not be relying on it for controversial statements like the idea that it has been incontrovertibly proven that the MNLA did not receive foreign assistance. FOARP (talk) 15:28, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Nationality

Chin was first a British subject and then? He failed to prove his Malaysian nationality to court so we can assume he was stateless? Does anyone have a source on his nationality? Andro611 (talk) 08:35, 20 September 2024 (UTC)