Talk:Charles A. Willoughby

Latest comment: 9 months ago by 66.213.17.181 in topic An issue with a source

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A photo would be nice. --WayneNight 23:34, 30 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

German orgin?

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"...officer in the U.S. army under true name of Adolph Charles Weidenbach, born in Heidelberg, March 8, 1892. ... he became Douglas MacArthur's chief of intelligence for the war in the Pacific, he was Major General Charles A. Willoughby."

According to www site. maebrussell.com Willoughby's true name is Weidenbach and he is of German orgin. What is the truth? If you read the information on the web site there is some convuluted Nazi connection with Willoughby to a JFK conspiricy theory. --TGC55 03:01, 7 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

According to this [1], from a U.S. Army site, his original name was Weidenbach. I'm updating the page to reflect that. --Nobunaga24 10:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)Reply


Minutemen

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Section 7, "Retirement, Death and Legacy" contains the phrase, "In his later years, Willoughby...work[ed] closely with Texas oil tycoon H.L. Hunt...[who] had connections to para-military groups such as the John Birch Society and the Minutemen."

This is followed immediately by a note in bold type that states..."Note: The Minutemen were created three decades after Willoughby's death, so whomever wrote that is stretching the truth at best."

Unfortunately, whoever added that note is unfamiliar with the history of that period; and as a result, their note is entirely incorrect.

The original article's assertions about the Minutemen were correct, there was in fact an extreme right wing paramilitary organization, founded in 1959 by Robert DePugh, called the Minutemen. Credible reports from that period place the membership in the tens of thousands, with active cells extending across the country. The end came for this organization, in the mid to late 60's, with law enforcement raids on extremely large Minutemen arms caches that yielded, among other items, grenades, mortars, bazookas, machine guns and bombs. IIRC, they even found a tank at one of the arms caches in southern California.

If anyone has an interest in researching DePugh's Minutemen, start with this Wiki article: "Minutemen (anti-Communist organization)" and then move on to Google, where there is still quite a bit of info on DePugh's Minutemen. I believe that the remnant of that Minuteman organization, that escaped the long arm of the law, reorganized under the name Omega Group, or something like that, located in the Spokane, Washington area.

Obviously, there is no relationship between the Minutemen Project founded by Jim Gilchrist in 2005, to monitor the flow of illegal aliens across our border with Mexico, and the violent paramilitary Minutemen organization created in 1959 by Robert DePugh.

Boot 09:24, 2 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Bias

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The section on Korea is seriously bias. DOR (HK) (talk) 05:20, 26 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

I thought these wikipedia postings were supposed to be neutral? With the acute exception of Willoughby's rank information, the information is more akin to a slanted college term paper with distinct personal bias than any form of impartial information. Is there anything factual (aside from his military history), like how many languages Willoughby spoke? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pattimyeich (talkcontribs) 16:54, 2 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

If we want to get factual, someone needs to add that Willoughby was probably the worst U.S. Army intelligence chief since Allen Pinkerton advised General George B. McClellan. 72.148.79.221 (talk) 01:52, 22 August 2010 (UTC)Reply


An issue with a source

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There is a quote from a Ph.D. thesis in the defense of Willoughby toward the end of this article. In the first place, it is a little odd to be putting the work of a graduate student up against the assessment of people who actually served during the events in question, or professional historians and journalists. Also, if one follows the link, one finds that the thesis in question is actually an MA thesis, not a Ph.D. thesis. This strikes one as odd from a scholarly perspective. Without some other foundational information (maybe the author of the thesis was a career military officer or had some other relevant qualification), citing an MA in defense of a very contentious position seems out of plumb with the gravity of the other evidence adduced in that section. 66.213.17.181 (talk) 14:14, 8 March 2024 (UTC)Reply