Talk:Carolyn Grace
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Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 13:18, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- ... that Carolyn Grace was the only qualified female pilot of the Supermarine Spitfire since World War II? Source: World's only female Spitfire pilot killed in car crash 34 years after her husband died same way
Created by Ritchie333 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:43, 8 December 2022 (UTC).
- Hesitant to approve this hook, because the fact is not really supported by the cited source. The Independent simply says "only female Spitfire pilot" (at the time or ever?) with no elaboration. I would prefer to see something more authoritative. Just a quick search suggests that she was far from the only woman to have flown Spitfires. (See Joy Lofthouse?) Other than that the rest of the article checks out, no copyvio detected, QPQ done. Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 21:08, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- Kingoflettuce The Independent source notes "No woman had flown solo in a Spitfire since the Forties, when they delivered them from test field to RAF unit by the Air Transport Auxiliary." (and name checks Jackie Sorour) - so the hook could be qualified as "...was the only qualified female pilot of the Supermarine Spitfire since World War II". As for why several reliable sources call Grace the "only" pilot, you'll have to ask them :-/ Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:20, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, the qualification would be better. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 10:26, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, we'll go with that, then. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:32, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
SMH other women were held back for sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.188.108.204 (talk) 07:02, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
This information is outdated and incorrect. Liz Needham of New Zealand (https://www.warbirdsoverwanaka.com/2024-airshow/news/nz-aircraft-owners-liz-and-frank-parker/) and Anna Walker of the United Kingdom (https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/whats-on/amp/interview-with-pilot-anna-walker-from-channel-4-s-guy-martin-9199910/) are both display-qualified. Zyates87 (talk) 20:27, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
“the only qualified female pilot of the Supermarine Spitfire”
editThis information is outdated and incorrect. Liz Needham of New Zealand (https://www.warbirdsoverwanaka.com/2024-airshow/news/nz-aircraft-owners-liz-and-frank-parker/) and Anna Walker of the United Kingdom (https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/whats-on/amp/interview-with-pilot-anna-walker-from-channel-4-s-guy-martin-9199910/) are both display-qualified. Zyates87 (talk) 20:26, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- So why did The Independent say otherwise? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:52, 23 December 2022 (UTC)