Talk:Canción Bonita

Latest comment: 2 years ago by آرمین هویدایی in topic GA Review
Former good article nomineeCanción Bonita was a Music good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
July 13, 2021Good article nomineeNot listed

GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:Canción Bonita/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 09:42, 10 June 2021 (UTC)Reply


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Criteria: 1a. prose ( ) 1b. MoS ( ) 2a. ref layout ( ) 2b. cites WP:RS ( ) 2c. no WP:OR ( ) 2d. no WP:CV ( )
3a. broadness ( ) 3b. focus ( ) 4. neutral ( ) 5. stable ( ) 6a. free or tagged images ( ) 6b. pics relevant ( )
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked   are unassessed

I will start this review tomorrow, as I'm working for the majority of today. --K. Peake 09:42, 10 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Infobox and lead edit

  • Infobox looks good!
  • "The song was written by" → "It was written by"
  • Shouldn't the "as a single" part could directly before "for digital download and streaming" in that sentence?
  • Wikilink Spanish language
Per MOS:OVERLINK, we should not link "the names of subjects with which most readers will be at least somewhat familiar". One of the examples there is "languages (e.g., English, Arabic, Korean, Spanish)".
  • For the Latin American countries where it reached number one, you should write "reaching number one in 11 countries, including" then mention two of them, for avoiding a supermarket list
  •   Not done there is still a supermarket style list --K. Peake 07:09, 19 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "Uruguay and Venezuela." → "Uruguay, and Venezuela."
  • "The accompanying music video was" → "An accompanying music video, released simultaneously with the song, was"
  • "promoted the release on" → "promoted the release with" to be less repetitive

Background and release edit

  • December 2019 should only be used at the start of the first sentence
  • "Carlos Vives and Ricky Martin participated in" → "Vives and Martin participated in"
  • "with the actress and producer" → "with actress and producer"
  • The "long wanted" part is not really sourced, as ref 1 mentions that he anticipated recording a song with Martin, so reword this somewhat
  •   Not done you kept as it is with no source added --K. Peake 07:09, 19 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "they worked together on" → "they had made plans to work together on"
  • "and prevented it from being released." → "and prevented the recording."
  • Add a comma after Billboard
  • Will do the other paras soon

@Kyle Peake:   Done. Rodney Araujo Tell me - My contributions 21:24, 11 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

I will leave further comments below. --K. Peake 08:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "have recorded a song together and they were" → "had recorded a song together and were"
  • "sneakers and denim jeans," → "sneakers, and denim jeans,"
  • "and the two were dancing to" → "and the two danced to"
  • "On February 17," → "On February 17, 2021"
  • "of Orlando nightclub shooting." → "of the 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting."
  • Remove pipe on Billboard
  • "would perform their upcoming collaboration at the" → "were set to perform at the" plus move this to being the sentence before the one about the April 2021 performance in promotion
  •   Partly done it still has not been moved to promotional info --K. Peake 07:09, 19 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • It was before releasing the song and somehow Billboard mentioned the song's release date to make happen before the ceremony.
  • "about this collaboration:" → "about "Canción Bonita":" plus this should be moved to being the last part of the section since he said it after the title was revealed
  • "Also, Martin told Hola News about it:" → "Martin told Hola News about the song:"
  • "revealed the song's name" → "revealed the song's title"
  • "shared the artwork for the single on their social media and announced" → "shared the artwork, and announced"
  • "and marked the first collaboration" → "marking the first collaboration"

@Kyle Peake:   Done. Rodney Araujo Tell me - My contributions 02:32, 13 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Music and lyrics edit

  • "of the chorus, which features Colombian and Puerto Rican beats." → "of the song's chorus, which features Colombian and Puerto Rican sounds." on the audio sample text, plus remove the ref since the musical styles are sourced in prose and the sample is used to showcase the chorus as featuring them
  •   Partly done the ref is still here to no real use --K. Peake 07:09, 19 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Wikilink Spanish language
  • Add a source that specifies the song is Spanish language, plus People does not back up it being Latin pop per WP:STICKTOSOURCE; change to pop or use a different source
  • [15] should be at the end of the first sentence of the section as well as in the second sentence
  • "Rengifo and Arcaute," → "Rengifo, and Arcaute,"
  • "The collaboration combines musical styles from" → "The song combines musical styles from"
  • "and features Vives'" → "with it featuring Vives'"
  • Mention the instruments the song includes in a sentence, using Tidal to source them
  • mitú should not begin with capitalisation
  • "explains its material as "a bit" → "analyzed that the song is where "[a] bit"
  • "described it as "a song that is not" → "said it "is not"
  • "Lyrically, "Canción Bonita" which translates" → "Lyrically, "Canción Bonita", which translates" plus why is the English title listed as "Beautiful Song" in the lead when the translation is "Pretty Song"?
  •   Comment: why has this now been changed to "Beautiful Song" in the body too? --K. Peake 07:09, 19 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "and is a true celebration of the island as a love letter to the country." → "and serves as a true celebration of the island and a love letter to it."
  • "is described as" → "was described as"
  • "The single mixes the desire to start over with the summer, and becomes" → "The lyrics mix the desire to start over with that of the summer and become"
  • "It also emphasizes the desire to travel to exotic and colorful places," → "The desire to travel to exotic and colorful places is also emphasized,"
  • The lyrics quoted are not properly backed up by the source even when it has been left in original language; maybe quote ones it actually mentions
  •   Not done

@Kyle Peake:   Done. Rodney Araujo Tell me - My contributions 03:05, 13 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Rodney Araujo: Thanks for working on these parts of the article but thus far, you've missed quite a few issues and I've pointed out where these are. My advice for the future would be to check after saving the article that you've implemented the intended suggestions, also I look forward to seeing your responses for the rest soon! --K. Peake 07:09, 19 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Critical reception edit

  • "of RCN Televisión called it" → "of RCN Televisión called the track"
  • "In his review for Mitú, Lucas Villa commended the track, saying: "As the song’s title suggests," → "Villa said that like it is suggested by the song's title," plus put more of this review in your own words per WP:QUOTEFARM
  • Italicise La Nación
  • Maybe add a few more reviews to be closer to universal acclaim?

Commercial performance edit

  • Remove the two days and five hours part unless you can add a source for it
  • "on the chart,[23] and" → "on the chart and" moving [23] solely to the end of the sentence
  • "The following week it climbed to its peak at number 23." → "The following week, the song peaked at number 23 on the Hot Latin Songs chart."
  • "with most top 20s on the US Latin Pop Airplay chart, with" → "with the most top-20s on the Latin Pop Airplay chart to"
  • [31] should be solely at the end of the sentence
  • "top 10 hit" → "top-10 hit"
  • "Besides the United States, "Canción Bonita" peaked" → "Outside of the United States, "Canción Bonita" experienced commercial success. The song peaked" for a correct introductory statement
  • The Monitor Latino chart should be directly after the number one positions for countries since it may be a continental ranking, but is still the same position and representative of various Latin American countries
  • "It also reached the top 10" → "The song further reached the top 10"

Promotion edit

  • Img looks good!
  • "Vives and Martin shared snippets of" → "Martin shared snippets of" per the source
  • "was filmed in different places" → "was filmed at different locations"
  • "El Escambrón and El Batey," → "El Escambrón, and El Batey,"
  • "culture and history." → "culture, and history."
  • "who had also directed the videos for Martin singles" → "who had previously directed the videos for Martin's singles"
  • "and his latest songs," → "and his 2020 songs" to be specific
  • "in the video make" → "appear in the video to make"
  • "praised "bright colors," → "praised the "bright colors," but the ref at the end of the sentence is not one that backs up this statement
  • Merge the second para with the above one, as it is too short
  • "at the 2021 Latin American Music Awards on" → "at the ceremony on" because the other Latin Awards sentence will have been moved to before this

Track listing edit

  • Good

Credits and personnel edit

Charts edit

Weekly charts edit

Monthly charts edit

  • Good

Release history edit

  • Good

See also edit

  • Good

References edit

  • Copyvio score looks pretty decent at 38.7%; ignore the flagged URL since that's from a URL not used here
  • Cite Primera Hora as publisher instead for ref 1
  • Cite last name followed by first for ref 11 for consistency
  • Only the first citation of ref 12 should wikilink Apple Music
  • Author-link Leila Cobo on ref 14
  • Lowercase mitú on ref 16
  • Refs 29 and 30 should not include the date parameter since they are chart histories
  • Cite Billboard for ref 33
  • Wikilink Rolling Stone on ref 56
  • Either add the correct URL for ref 59 or remove it altogether
  • Remove website parameter for ref 70

External links edit

  • Good

Final comments and verdict edit

  •   On hold until all of the issues are fixed; got cracking properly with the review today! --K. Peake 20:54, 12 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Status query edit

K. Peake, Rodney Araujo, where does this review stand? It's been on hold for a month, and while there haven't been any edits from the nominator since the following day, آرمین_هویدایی has made quite a few edits since then which may address some of the issues raised and in any event will need to be checked against the criteria. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:51, 12 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

@BlueMoonset: Regards. I created the article and almost wrote the whole article by myself. But it wasn't actually ready to be nominated, I knew that I have to still find more references for some parts and I knew that since the song is still new, I should update the charts and probably add accolades soon. That's why I did not nominated it. With respect, I don't get it why the nominator even nominated this article, while they haven't contributed to the article at all! And now, even after the review they don't fix the issues. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 06:23, 13 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
@BlueMoonset: I would be fine with آرمین هویدایی taking over and fixing the issues instead of the nominator because the latter seems to be inactive, but I'll ask the user do they want to take over or should the nom just be failed since آرمین هویدایی is not too confident in this nomination. --K. Peake 07:09, 13 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
K. Peake, it turns out that this was an out-of-process nomination: nominators who are not significant contributors to the article are supposed to consult with those who are on the article's talk page prior to nominating (in part to see whether there are significant omissions or other issues where the article falls short of the GA criteria). Under the circumstances, I would follow آرمین هویدایی's wishes, whether they want to continue the review with them working on the article, or simply to close it now. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:48, 13 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, my plan was to nominate it in a few months, probably later this year. If you agree, close it for now and I would re-nominate it in a few months. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 19:32, 13 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
آرمین هویدایی I will go ahead and fail this article now, as your say is very valid due to being the main contributor. --K. Peake 21:13, 13 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Kyle Peake Thanks. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 09:29, 14 July 2021 (UTC)Reply