Talk:Calvin Pearl Titus

Latest comment: 4 years ago by 96.241.174.161 in topic Religion?

Religion?

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The article states:

"His religious upbringing led him to try to become an Army Chaplain but his denomination was not at that point in time recognised by the Army. He became a Chaplain's assistant instead."

Just what was his religion and should it not be added to his infobox? Invmog (talk) 03:44, 19 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

Upon a web search of Calvin P. Titus, no religion is specified in his career.
http://armylive.dodlive.mil/index.php/2009/12/100-years-of-chaplain-assistants/
http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent/1,12044,FL_chaplain_ans,00.html
Bullmoosebell (talk) 21:14, 26 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

I am a direct decendent of Calvin Pearl Titus. He is my 1st cousin 2x removed. My 2nd great grandfather Thomas W. Titus was Calvin Pearl's grandfather. My great grandfather Watson L. Titus and Calvin Pearl's father Calvin were brothers. Just establishing my connection with those comments. Calvin Pearl's religious denomination would most likely have been Presbyterian. Although he went from Iowa to Oklahoma to live with relatives who were Evangelists, the entire Titus family seemed to have been devout Presbyterians. My guess is the relatives were Presbyterian Evangelists. Thomas W. Titus was recognized within his own Presbyterian congregation on many occasions in Fairfield and Vinton, Iowa through newspaper articles. All the children were raised Presbyterian and it seems that faith spilled over to the following generations.

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I am a retired Army JAG and currently an Army civilian employee. The issue of a chaplain candidate's denomination is that the denomination endorses and certifies candidates for the Army Chaplain Corps. To qualify, a demonization must meet the requirements to be an "endorsing agency" and the standards to be an endorsing agency are now governed by the Department of Defense for all services, though around 1900 the Army likely governed this process. An endorsing agency would need to affirmatively seek to serve as an endorsing agency and it is possible that LTC Titus belonged to a denomination that had simply not registered as an endorsing agency. The endorsing agencies are also referred to as "religious organizations" (ROs) and I believe the process is open to allow any legitimate RO to qualify as an endorsing agency without discrimination based on denomination. [1]

It appears that the Presbyterians did not seek to become a formal RO or endorsing agency until the 1970s. [2] A chaplain candidate may certainly seek endorsement and certification from another RO, but LTC Titus would not have been able to serve as a Presbyterian chaplain unless endorsed and credentialed by the Presbyterians. I believe there have been Presbyterian chaplains in the British Army for a very long time, but that is a different Army and different rules. 96.241.174.161 (talk) 23:26, 5 May 2020 (UTC)Retired Army JAGReply


Something else you may be interested in is the Freedom Rock that depicts Calvin Pearl Titus on it's front in Benton County Iowa. It stands in front of the American Legion Post. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EliMarsh12 (talkcontribs) 18:37, 19 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

References

Image of Calvin P. Titus

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A picture of Calvin Pearl Titus is displayed on the US Navy website (http://www.msc.navy.mil/inventory/citations/titus.htm). Can, and should, this image be uploaded and used for his profile page, as well as the List of Medal of Honor recipients for the Boxer Rebellion wikipedia page? Bullmoosebell (talk) 21:04, 26 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Query

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What on earth does "the last American standard-bearer" mean? Do American troops not carry standards on parade? Or does it mean he was the last to carry a standard in action. In this case (which is what I suspect is meant), the wording should be clarified. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:35, 1 June 2012 (UTC)Reply