Talk:CFML-FM

Page move

I've reverted a move of this article to VF2448. While the URL to Industry Canada did connect with the 107.9 frequency, I've found no proof that it is a "call sign". In the absence of verifiable information outlining a change, the article should stay put. (Bearcat, any thoughts on this?) --Ckatz^chat_spy 08:25, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

VF followed by four numbers is the call sign format assigned to many low-power FM transmitters in Canada, although it usually denotes a rebroadcaster rather than an originating station. In this particular case, while a Google search on "VF2448" does bring up a few references to this station, it doesn't bring up any official sources that confirm a call sign change. It does bring up one forum post that says the station has apparently changed its call sign, but that doesn't qualify as a reliable source. And whatever the Industry Canada database says, it doesn't provide a linkable URL that we can place into the article as a source.

And anyway, per the radio stations project, even if this has changed to a VF callsign our practice for those stations — on the exceedingly rare occasion that one qualifies for an article at all — has been to use the brand name as the title, as VF call signs are far too obscure to be a viable article title. The call sign itself would only be permissible as a redirect to the alternate title. But in the meantime, this needs to stay put until we have a genuine source for the change. Bearcat (talk) 04:45, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. Another interesting point is that the station's renewal application through the CRTC (earlier in 2007) is as "CFML". --Ckatz^chat_spy 06:02, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

That's another thing that I find strange about this; while stations can occasionally go the other way, it would be virtually unprecedented for a radio station to get bumped down to VF status after it had already been on the air for several years with a CXXX-format call sign. That's probably the main reason I have to insist on a bulletproof source in this case. Bearcat (talk) 22:07, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Just to update, I've asked Pikachu9000, the user who originally did the page move, if he could point me to the original source that led him to double check the Industry Canada database in the first place, though I haven't heard anything back yet. Bearcat (talk) 20:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I've gotten clarification from Pikachu; he checked it because he saw the very same forum post I linked to above. He also noted, however, that the IC database still has the call sign CFML (not CFML-FM) listed as belonging to BCIT but broadcasting on the frequency "0.940000" — which, needless to say, isn't within the FM range at all. As a result, I've contacted the station directly to ask them for clarification, and will update here if and when I hear back from them. Bearcat 15:26, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I've gotten word back from the station. What happened is that VF2448 was the temporary call sign that the station was originally assigned when it first aired as a testing signal. CFML is still the station's call sign, and the change back to VF2448 what appears to have been an administrative error which the station was already seeking to clear up with IC. So no change has actually taken place. Bearcat 22:34, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

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