Talk:Butterbrot

Japan

Why Japan? Is there anything special about Japan that would make it more butterbread-forein than other countries?? --Maximilianh 08:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Proposed merge

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• The result of this discussion was no consensus to merge. Northamerica1000^(talk) 13:09, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

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"Butterbrot" is nothing other than a sandwich, a slice of bread. The fact that you "can put butter on it" doesn't make it any difference. Duden, one of the better German dictionaries, describes it as "a slice of bread covered with butter or margarine". The article itself states that the only difference with a sandwich is in the sourdough that's used. Well, Dutch bakers for example do not even use that. I propose a merge to bread which already has a "germany" section into which it can be integrated.Rex 21:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. I think everyone will. Just have a look on the page Sandwich and you will see why: There are TONS of entries that describe various kinds of bread with some kind of topping, since bread is the basic staple food in the Western world, there various kinds, too many to put them all on the "bread" page. There are pages for Swedish, french and Open sandwiches, why not one for Butterbrot? Dutch bakers have nothing to do with "Butterbrot" as this page is describing the German variant and not the Dutch one. --Maximilianh 15:24, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Don't merge. Butterbrot is not bread, it's bread with something on it or in it. Therefore, it's a sandwich (albeit open-faced). I'm going to remove the merge notice - six months is plenty of time for it to be there. Jaksmata 13:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

As I'm tracing what "Бутерброд" on a picture indicates, I don't see any difference between sandwich and the butterbrot. Is the article to be merged into Sandwich? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Appletrees (talk • contribs) 14:29, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

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Dutch translation

This article is about the German Butterbrot. We don't need a Dutch translation for a German word in the English-speaking Wikipedia.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.176.224.117 (talk) 22:38, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Why it always lands with the buttered side down

Mythbusters has also investigated this myth. I think the most convincing result they had was that a typical slice of bread (they used toasts with butter) dropped "asymmetrical" from a typical table height would typically get exactly enough spin to make half a revolution before hitting the floor, and thus land with the buttered side down. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobixen (talk • contribs) 23:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Just attach the butterbrot on the back of a cat (butterside out of course) and throw the whole construction into the air...--92.226.21.18 (talk) 23:25, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

bread and butter???

Most countries in Europe eat bread with butter. Should there be a page for each of them? 78.29.170.229 (talk) 22:34, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Comparison with sandwiches completely unsourced OR, urban legend section unencyclopedic hogwash, decline section mostly unsourced OR

About the 'comparison': No citations whatsoever... But since it's all unsourced original research littered with inaccuracies and assumptions, possibly extrapolated from personal experience, I'd much rather purge most of it than address it.

Just as an example: Wurst-, Käse-, Marmeladen- or Whateverbrot is described as terminology used in Austria but not in Germany. Guess what: Germans say that as well. We don't all say 'Butterbrot mit whatever'. Got a butterbrot? Put some cheese on it? Voila: KÄSEBROT. Not rocket science, not purely Austrian, the bread being buttered before topped with anything else is pretty much a given. The butterbrot toppings for breakfast tend to be sweet? Who says so? Your personal experience doesn't count. And neither does mine. As long as an account of said butterbrot experiences has not been published by a third party.

So what to do? 88.68.183.198 (talk) 01:18, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Edited to add: UL section has no place on WP, decline is pure personal observation. Source it or let it go. Almost all of the article is an unverified opinion piece. 'Well meant' and 'well done' are often diametrically opposed, as evidenced by this article. 88.68.183.198 (talk) 01:46, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

The term "Butterbrot" itself is just a generalisation (just like "sandwich"). Nowadays it is only used in sayings and occasions, when the general application of an item is bound with varieties of "Butterbrot(en)". Being a german myself, I use my regional word for it; which happens to be "Stulle". If someone offers a german something called a "sandwich", he might pass a triangular-shaped version of a so called "Doppel-" or "Klappstulle" (doubled- or clapped-bread), made from toast(ish) whitebread and diligently filled with inappropriate appearing loads of good foods, twhich would provide enough ingredients for two or three "Butterbrot(e)". Since this is quite a cultural matter maybe the lemma "Butterbrot" should be kept as the original concept of the sandwich? I do observe a little tendency between those two dishes, because the older is mainly focussing on the bread (the german approach...), whilst the other (or younger) dish is about to distract from the lack (referring to that well spotted relation between the culturation of sandwiches and the utter decline of everyday bakery-craftmanship) of proper bread at all! The last time another german offered my a sandwich was quite awkward... until I learned she was from sweden. Besides: there is no decline of any dish that is nutritious and practicable to handle!--78.51.148.38 (talk) 20:03, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

wrong information

<re> butterbrot (different from "belegtes Brot" - with cheese, sausages etc.) NONSENSE (I'm German, I should know)"Butterbrot" and "belegtes Brot" are synonymous - some people put cheese or cold cuts on their bread even without butter and it would pass for a Butterbrot or "belegtes Brot".Sausages on bread?! Very unlikely! And it wouldn't pass for a Butterbrot.

The previous post is correct: "Butterbrot" is the same as "belegtes Brot".--176.32.40.133 (talk) 14:45, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Russians also call open sandwiches buterbrod regardless of whether it is butter on them or something on them. TheImperios (talk) 19:57, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Butterbrot in Austria = bread + butter. and NOTHING ELSE. add e.g. cheese -> Käsebrot. or cold cuts -> Wurstbrot — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:871:25C:9E5F:44F0:1B3D:EB2D:7C51 (talk) 23:49, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Mistake

"Another very popular bread type is Brötchen" is wrong. Brötchen may sound like it is a little bread, but those are two completely different things. Source: I'm German — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.168.26.24 (talk) 16:06, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Noteworthy?

I could be mistaken, but it seems to me that much of this article is irrelevant or redundant. The entirety of the “Urban Legends” section is equally applicable to buttered toast and not unique to butterbrot in any way, while the “Comparison with sandwiches” section is seemingly devoted entirely to justifying the article’s existence by extolling the distinctions between a butterbrot and other open-face sandwiches, with most of these distinctions being, according to other examples in this talk page, highly variable and inconsistent. In addition, the tone of the section clearly leans towards extolling the butterbrot as superior to the generic sandwich, remarking upon the wide variety of breads that a butterbrot might be made from (almost all of which are perfectly normal sights in sandwiches) and seemingly decrying the indolence of “thick fancy sandwich fillings”. The article as a whole seems intent on positioning butterbrot as some sort of unique dish, rather than being essentially an elementary form of open-face sandwich that is likely to have some presence in any location where both butter and bread exist. While the consistent popularity of this form of meal in and around Germany could quite reasonably be considered notable, the lengths the article goes to in order to suggest that bread, butter, and perhaps a slice of cheese or deli meat is a distinct regional phenomenon are patently ridiculous.

I do recognize that, being an outsider to the area and culture being discussed, I am likely missing a great deal of context on this. Even with that in mind, however, it seems clear to me that if nothing else, the article is in no way impartial, and needs improvement in that respect.

Also, I apologize for my tone. I have a terrible habit of oscillating irregularly between dry, monotonous descriptions and dramatic turns of phrase, and this tends to create a distorted impression of my emotional state or intentions when writing. 174.95.20.134 (talk) 18:54, 4 September 2024 (UTC)