Talk:Break Your Heart

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June 20, 2010Good article nomineeListed

Video edit

No credits are available for the video. The brunette woman who is featured with Taio Cruz at the start of the video has not been identified and has even been called cheyrl cole some sites (e.g. Wiki Answers). Why ? 86.132.53.127 (talk) 11:14, 9 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

I have no idea. No credits at all on any website are listed for citation as to where the video is, who is in it or what. Jayy008 (talk) 00:22, 12 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

The lead girl in the video is a London based model called Nadya Nepomnyashaya.--83.42.102.51 (talk) 14:03, 7 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

The article states that the video is filmed in Marbella, when it was actually filmed in a completely different province. Marbella is in Malaga and the video is actually shot in Cadiz, in A place called Sotogrande. (Sunokw (talk) 14:34, 17 July 2010 (UTC))Reply

 Not done Give sources otherwise all of this is WP:OR Candyo32 15:05, 19 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

some key problems edit

the article needs clarity over exactly what genre it is.

The introduction calls it an R&B Dance song (note that dance link piped to dance pop which is incorrect, dance and dance pop are different) meanwhile the infobox calls it Electropop, R&B, europop, hip house whilst the composition calls it R&B and dance pop. Note the critical reception only calls its R&B. The article needs consistancy. where do hip house, electropop and europop come from?

The model also features in the UK version of the video but the current sentence on the video section suggests otherwise.

Also the sentence about "Break Your Heart" not being included on Cheryl Cole's album suggests that Will.i.am produced "Heartbreaker" for cheryl cole and her album when in fact it is simply a song she is featured on. the paragraph would be better saying that !it was too similar to "Heartbreaker", a collaboration between Cole and Will.i.am which appears on thea album." or something along those lines. Don't forget "Heartbreaker" is primarily a Will.i.am single/song.

Also why does the infobox say the length is 3:24 but track listing says 3:23?

Only the Island Records should be listed in the infobox because they A&R the album and Cruz is signed to them not mercury. its called an exchange relationship, U.S. Mercury Record artists might release through Island and in return ISland record UK artists will release through Mercury records in the US. Christopher Bridges should be removed from the infobox because articles are about songs not singles in the sense that the first single released did not feature ludacris. the ludacris version is an official remix which was serviced elsewhere. Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Made fixes. However since Heartbreaker is primarily will.i.am's song, it should be inferred from the text and read as if the song is will's and not Cole's, and that the song would not have been chosen because will.i.am was ep of the album, not because the song was included on the album. Candyo32 (talk) 07:21, 31 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Chart position Germany edit

It's number 7[1] --84.158.39.227 (talk) 12:38, 31 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

References

Genres edit

It's not electropop or hip house. Someone find a reliable source for the genres. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.78.64.101 (talk) 02:31, 1 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: (CK)Lakeshadetalk2me 02:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC) Alright i am beginning the review. (CK)Lakeshadetalk2me 02:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

  • "Break Your Heart" was one of two penned by Cruz for UK pop/R&B singer[...]". Was one of two what? I think you need songs before penned.   Done
  • "However, according to the song's other co-writer[...]" Im not 100% sure but i pretty sure a sentence should not start with however, please change it.
A sentence can start with however if it is later resolved, in this place with the comma and the subject or verb do not dispute and it is not a fragment. For further clarification, example from the critical reception of FA, 4 Minutes (Madonna song)"

Joan Anderman of The Boston Globe believed that the "song is a sure thing, a chart-topper for its sheer star power as well as instant musical allure, and on the eve of Madonna's 50th birthday [...] '4 Minutes' feels a lot like an icon's can't-miss gift to herself." However, he noticed that the "shift in the power structure [is nowhere] more blatant than on '4 Minutes', where Madonna sounds like a featured guest trying to keep pace with Timbaland's colossal beats and Timberlake's nimble melody."

  • 'On collaborating with Ludacris, Cruz said,[...]" I believe you mean While collaborating with Ludacris, Cruz said,
On is the correct term because collaborating with Ludacris is the topic on which Cruz was speaking. While collaborating is not only incorrect, it would state as if Cruz said the statement while he was in the studio collaborating with the rapper.
  • Reference number twelve should not be linked to Music Notes, see 4 Minutes to see how it should be properly linked.   Done
  • The song includes several tempo changes, which have been compared to that of Jay Sean's "Down".[10] The song is filled with boasting lyrics about being a heartbreaker rather than being heartbroken. Back to back opening statement, please rephrase one or the other.   Done
  • "Although BBC Music called the song a "cheese-fest", said "in a weird way it's kind of beautiful", investing in the "Ibiza-inspired R&B trend"." Alright a few errors. 1) Dont open with although as there was no statement before it. 2) Sentence doesn't make sense, needs to be rewritten. (eg: called the song a "cheese-fest", said[...]) Missing a word or 2.   Done
Re-worded statement a bit, but although is fine. As stated above about the word "however", the sentence is resolved and no grammar disputes.
  • "The review also compared the song to Dizzee Rascal and Cruz's "layered vocals" and "slick production" to OneRepublic and Timbaland's 'Apologize"." He compared the song to Dizzzee Rascals what?
The reviewer compared it just to Dizzee Rascal, no particular work of his. Added a compared to distinguish.
  • Critical reception should be broken up into 2 paragraphs, positive being the first, mixed being the second.
How come it is not better to just combine into one simple paragraph, since it is little anyway. The second paragraph would result in two single sentences, which isn't even a paragraph.
Was just a suggestion, it can be kept as is, it wasnt a major issue, it wouldnt decide if the article would pass or fail. You can leave as is if you prefer. (CK)Lakeshadetalk2me 02:53, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
  • Alright, Chart Performance doesn't have nearly enough citations.

The song debuted at number one in the United Kingdom becoming Cruz's first song to reach the pole position in that territory.[a] The song remained at the top of the chart for three weeks.[b] The song also peaked at number one in Switzerland, and in the top ten in several other countries across Europe.[c]   Done

Added refs that should take care of it. Candyo32 (talk) 01:05, 20 June 2010 (UTC) Reply
  • Why is there no certification section, i could be wrong but with all the charting i would imagine it would have been certified somewhere. (CK)Lakeshadetalk2me 02:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)  DoneReply
Surprisingly I could only find two certs. Added. Candyo32 (talk) 16:57, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Alright this is what ive noticed right off the bat, please avoid placing responses here as it makes the page extremely long, instead please post any concerns, questions or comments on my talk page under a new section. =) (CK)Lakeshadetalk2me 02:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

As an admin told me before in a review, it is better to post fixes on the article's talk page because Wikipedia is a collaborative effort and it is better for other editors to see what's going on with an article's status.Candyo32 (talk) 02:22, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

It really just depends on the reviewer, i archive all discussions and will add the link to the discussions if a problem ever arose. (CK)Lakeshadetalk2me 02:33, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Yeah it does, but still it would be much more easier, simpler and accessible if everything was on the talk page for everyone to see. Candyo32 (talk) 16:57, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply


All My concerns have been addressed, i fail to find any other outstanding issues with this article, great work! I am passing the article :) (For all concerns reguarding the prose, the discussion above where issues with the prose, i am not including an actual listing) (CK)Lakeshadetalk2me 01:27, 20 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Edit request from 83.56.209.109, 19 July 2010 edit

{{editsemiprotected}} In the part about the music video, it says that it was recorded in Marbella, Spain. This, however, is incorrect. It was recorded in Sotogrande, Spain. (These two places are very close by, but I recognize the clips as Sotogrande and know someone who saw it being recorded there.)

83.56.209.109 (talk) 12:54, 19 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

  Done. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:33, 19 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Parodies edit

Rucka Rucka Ali, a YouTube celebrity and rapper that makes parodies of well-known songs has made two parodies of Break Your Heart: AIDS in our butts and me no rikey youtube part 2: no more dj nice guy. In most of the articles about songs that he has parodied, his parodies are mentioned. Therefore, I think they should be mentioned in this article as well. 80.101.212.102 (talk) 20:18, 5 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

I bet all those other articles are not good articles as this one. Candyo32 20:53, 5 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Ludacris chronology edit

Why is Ludacris' chronology in the infobox? Just seems odd to me. Devourer09 (t·c) 00:55, 19 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Certification edit

The song reached 3x platinum in the USA SOURCE--79.216.218.111 (talk) 00:06, 26 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Requested move edit

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 10:18, 30 June 2012 (UTC)Reply



You cannot debate that the Taio Cruz song, which was number one around the world, is way more notable than the badly sourced Natalie Merchant song from 15 years ago that didn't even make the top 20 in one country. Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 07:07, 22 June 2012 (UTC) Unreal7 (talk) 17:46, 14 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

  • Support per nom and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Just put a hatnote on this page to the Merchant song and delete the DAB page per WP:TWODABS ("If there are only two topics to which a given title might refer, and one is the primary topic, then a disambiguation page is not needed—it is sufficient to use a hatnote on the primary topic article"). —  AjaxSmack  02:51, 23 June 2012 (UTC)Reply
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