Talk:Bodhi Tree Bookstore

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Schazjmd in topic Editorial review

Suggestion: notable authors edit

I don't think the sea of blue in the The Bodhi Tree Bookstore meeting room section is very useful to readers. Perhaps pick a few examples (maybe ones that had independent coverage of their appearance there other than "calendar of events" listings) to mention. But that listing many names doesn't improve the article. Schazjmd (talk) 00:41, 6 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thanks schazjmd for the feedback. I understand what you mean and I'll take it under serious consideration. I do feel like I am receiving mixed messages from editors though because the CN tag indicated to me that I needed to include citations for the individuals - which is what I've been doing. Additionally, the list was previously abbreviated to the current list. Now, I'm being given feedback to further reduce the list and implement a different methodology for including citations. I do think that a listing of some of the individuals who presented at the bookstore is important to the article as it (1) proves how active the bookstore was in the New Age community, and (2) it provides a linkage between the bookstore and the individuals - many of whom relied on the Bodhi Tree Bookstore in order to boost their careers or even launch their careers. So, while I understand your 'sea of blue' remark, I do feel like I am receiving mixed messages. How would you advise I proceed then? Lavenderearlgrey (talk) 00:57, 6 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yes, CN means that claims need verifiable sources. However, just because something can be cited doesn't mean it should be included. I'm suggesting that the article would be better for readers without a huge mass of names. Every bookstore gets hundreds of writers making appearances; this is not unique to Bodhi Tree. Please note that the article is also tagged for excessive detail. I believe that paragraph is excessive detail. And I'm not criticizing your citations, what I'm saying is that if any of the writers' appearances received notice outside of "calendar of events", those might be ones to focus on as examples. If there aren't any, maybe just choose a few of the most well-known names. The fact that many writers appeared at a bookstore shouldn't be more than a sentence or two. I can see that you're putting a lot of work into finding citations for all of those names, and I just think you could be focused on more important aspects of the article. Schazjmd (talk) 01:10, 6 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for clarifying. This helps me re-focus my energy. Lavenderearlgrey (talk) 01:14, 6 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Editorial review edit

schazjmd - I'm not quite clear on how to submit a new version of the article for editorial review in order to determine if the noted issues have been sufficiently addressed. Since I believe you were the one that added the notes, I'm hoping you can advise. Thanks! Lavenderearlgrey (talk) 22:59, 2 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi Lavenderearlgrey, if you'd like to post a new version of the article in your userspace (either your sandbox or another subpage), I'd be glad to take a look at it. Schazjmd (talk) 23:31, 2 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Hi schazjmd, I'm referring to the new version I just saved as the article for Bodhi Tree Bookstore. Do I need to publish it in my sandbox for your review or can you just review it here? Lavenderearlgrey (talk) 23:34, 2 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Oh, you mean the edits you just made to the article? Now I understand, sorry.
I made a few changes to those edits. Overall, they did little to address the concerns with the article, although I have removed the tag about inline citations as the refs are inline. The article is still excessively detailed. Also, as you have a declared conflict-of-interest in the subject, you should be requesting edits on the talk page rather than making them directly yourself.
It would be nice to get this article cleaned up, but it's going to take some serious pruning. How about if I do a rewrite of it in my user space and you can take a look at the revised version? Schazjmd (talk) 23:45, 2 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thanks schazjmd - That would be wonderful and I would be so grateful! I'll look for a notification of your version. Lavenderearlgrey (talk) 23:48, 2 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
It may take a week or two, I'll ping you as soon as I have ready for you to review.   Schazjmd (talk) 23:51, 2 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
No rush. Thanks! Lavenderearlgrey (talk) 23:52, 2 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Lavenderearlgrey, could you email me a scan of the Ramsky article "Taking Care of the Small World " from The Hollywood Newspaper so I can confirm some information? You can use the email this user function on my user page. Schazjmd (talk) 20:12, 4 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Lavenderearlgrey, wow, that was fast! Thanks.   Schazjmd (talk) 20:20, 4 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Lavenderearlgrey, my revised version is at User:Schazjmd/Bodhi. We can discuss it at User talk:Schazjmd/Bodhi. Schazjmd (talk) 19:33, 12 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Lavenderearlgrey, now that you've seen an example of the article in a way that addresses the tags, hopefully that will help you in your future edits. I won't be working on this article going forward. Best of luck to you. Schazjmd (talk) 07:09, 31 October 2021 (UTC)Reply