Talk:Blackpink/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Status of draft articles

Here's the status of articles for the members

• Jennie Kim has released a solo single that has topped Gaon and Billboard, so she meets WP:MUSICBIO #2 "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart." Her "album" also reached number 2 on Gaon.
• Lisa (Thai singer) was recently created, but it's been poorly sourced, with the only RS pointing to her presence in Blackpink or her record-setting (for now) Instagram followers. If {{notability}} is "reasonably likely to be non-notable", it will be tagged for notability, but "certainly, hopelessly non-notable" it's going to AFD. But if her article is sent to AFD, then she needs to survive WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG standards, not the notability tag standards.
• Draft:Kim Ji-soo (singer, born 1995) is in draft status. All other drafts are redirecting to this one.
• Draft:Roseanne Park is in draft status. All other drafts are redirecting to this one. May be renamed to Rosé (New Zealand singer) later. She has maybe one RS from South China Morning Post but suffers a lot from other unreliable sources such as the Wikis.

Any questions? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:42, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Not a question, but Lisa should probably be moved to draft then in my opinion. Redalert2fan (talk) 23:53, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Redalert2fan, yeah, except it's been pushed out of draft, bypassing the AFC review process. If it's that bad, it's going to AFD. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:58, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

About a week late but I'd argue they all pass WP:GNG and would survive AfD in a similar way Jimin of BTS did here. I just expanded Draft:Roseanne Park a bit to save the pretty awful prose/sourcing and the number of reliable sources increased significantly. I had to use articles that go enough in depth to talk about her childhood as well, and her career section hasn't been fully revamped yet. She's been mentioned over 2.5k times on Naver alone (Korean news portal that aggregates reliable sources per WP:KO/RS), and scrolling through it you can see all the articles about just her. Naver isn't even exhaustive of potential Korean news sites as well and doesn't including the English sources who have written profiles on her (three on her page currently). I focus on Rosé since I just did a lot of research on her to fix her page, but this is the same for Lisa and Jisoo too. They've all had endorsements outside of BP, all have solo singles in the works, all have been reviewed as discussed as performers, and have had their own impact in South Korea and abroad. Rosé's voice gets mentioned a lot for it being rather unique in K-Pop (this is actually in at least one of the English sources on her page as well), Lisa's arguably the biggest K-pop idol in Thailand and has promoted independently there, and Jisoo in particular gets a lot of solo ad campaigns and had an independant hosting job on Inkigayo for a year. Problem is none of their pages mentions these, are sourced incredibly poorly, and have terrible prose. Lisa's article needs to get a lot added to it, because right now it doesn't pass WP:GNG even though she herself does.

And slightly off topic, but can Rosé's draft be moved back to "Rosé (singer)" please? Her birth name is hardly used and she's the only singer with the name "Rosé" on Wikipedia. I saw it was moved to "Roseanne Park", but that may be due to which draft was made first. And shouldn't Jisoo's page just be "Jisoo (singer, born 1995)"? She's much more frequently covered under a mononym. If there's plans to do requested moves on these should they be published drafts then ignore this. DanielleTH ^{(Say hi!)} 19:39, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

DanielleTH, Rosé should probably be disambiguated to (New Zealand singer), as there is already a mononymic Rose (singer). Same with Jisoo per your recommendation. What about Jennie Kim? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:54, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

I don't think Rose and Rosé are comparable, there's the clear accent and they're pronounced differently (Rows-aye vs rows). Rosé and Rose aren't disambiguated. WP:SMALLDETAILS. Jisoo would need to have "(singer, born 1995)" given there female Korean Jisoos who sing already. There's also multiple Kim Ji-soos who sing so it's not a case of using the family name to avoid having to list birth year. I'm also of the mindset that Jennie's page should just be "Jennie (singer)", I mean that's the name she used when "Solo" was released, and the page is disambiguated as just "Solo (Jennie song)". I didn't make either page, though. DanielleTH ^{(Say hi!)} 20:27, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Jennie should be moved to Jennie (singer). All the other members are currently not notable and should be in Draftspace.--Lirim | Talk 05:36, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Kim Ji-soo (singer, born 1995) has been accepted/moved by User:Zanhe as Jisoo (singer). I think the naming of this page probably also requires improvement as has been suggested above. Redalert2fan (talk) 20:34, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Redalert2fan for the ping, I wasn't aware of this discussion. As I mentioned on Talk:Lisa (Thai singer), All Blackpink members are ranked among the top 10 in instagram's most followed K-pop idols (all of whom have larger followings than Donald Trump, for perspective), and Jennie and Jisoo are both among Gallup poll's top 10 most popular Korean idols (Lisa and Rosé are not Korean), so it's safe to assume that they meet the notability criteria per WP:ENTERTAINER for having an indisputably large fanbase. For a comparable case, see the deletion review for Harry Styles from 2013. -Zanhe (talk) 20:56, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Update: after major improvements made by DanielleTH, I've accepted the draft for Rosé (singer), using the name suggested by her above. Thanks for the great work! -Zanhe (talk) 03:45, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the great work everyone, at first I had been a bit skeptical weather they would pass notability guidelines (not if they were notable in a general sense), but those worries are all gone now. Only Lisa's article has someone unreferenced claims left which need some work in my opinion. Redalert2fan (talk) 10:15, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Looks good. Thanks again for establishing individual notability for the Blackpink members. The articles look a lot better. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:17, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

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Merger proposal

@Eshqinra: created a new article, Blackpink Diaries, and added it to filmography here. Given that these are just short check in/vignette vids from on the road during tour it doesn't appear they merit their own article. Unless there's significant notice to these it looks like they might be better served by a brief mention of what they are in the main article here. JamesG5 (talk) 10:10, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

@JamesG5: Is there really anything to merge? There doesn't appear to be any coverage of these videos in independent sources, so I think it would be fine to redirect to Blackpink#Filmography without merging any content. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 19:01, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

• Merge I would boldly redirect, but since it's being discussed here, yes, merge. If it's for the 2019 world tour then eventually perhaps that world tour will eventually have its own article and that it would be covered by the promotion section. If it's an ongoing series, like they will use that for any kind of behind-the-scenes videos, then it's just a social media channel. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:19, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Hyuna’s Free Month is a video documentary series that was redirected to A Talk AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:29, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Just redirect this, no sources or categories or anything, completely non-notable content. Yes, its a social media channel for "behind the scenes", its not a real television series broadcast by a real TV network or something. Blackpink House is an example of notable show broadcast by a TV station, while this is not. And there is no need to discuss merging since there is absolutely nothing to merge at all, so I'll go ahead and redirect it right away. Snowflake91 (talk) 19:26, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2019

Change [In April 2019, Blackpink made a donation of 40 million won to the Hope Bridge Association] to [In April 2019, Blackpink made a donation of 40 million WON (Equal to 33.641,74USD as of December 2019) to the Hope Bridge Association] 82.73.32.38 (talk) 19:18, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

NOTE: This would simplify the currency state for people unknown to the south Korean and it's currency. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.73.32.38 (talk) 19:24, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

This change is not necessary. Many currencies exist - while this is targeted to an English speaking audience, this isn't focused towards an American audience and would need to be constantly updated. Users can easily look up what they need to in their own time and currency. Evaders99 (talk) 03:28, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 February 2020

As BTS is most subscribed youtube channel, please change the sentences. 115.99.43.144 (talk) 21:08, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

This isn't true. The Big Hit Labels YouTube channel has more subscribers than Blackpink, not BTS. therefore Blackpink is the most-subscribed group. Alex (talk) 21:47, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Years Active

Aren’t they on hiatus? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luvieblinkonce (talk • contribs) 00:49, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2020

In the month of May 2020,YG confirmed that Blackpink has scheduled a comeback in June after their last album 'Kill this love' in 2019. Nithyasreej (talk) 06:12, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

 Question: Can you provide links to third party reliable sources so I can verify your request? Set the answered parameter on the template to no when done. Aasim 06:14, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done I found a reliable source and have added the information to the article. Alex (talk) 08:07, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Expand the page

Hi, could you make changes to the item? There are many things written on Chinese Wikipedia compared to English! So more could be added. Ghostintears (talk) 07:28, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ghostintears: You're more than welcome to contribute yourself. But please note that the Chinese article also contains a lot of irrelevant information. For example, it also talks about how Winner was formed, Epik High releasing music, Hi Suhyun being formed, other artists joining and leaving the company, and more which has absolutely nothing to do with Blackpink. Alex (talk) 10:10, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

@Alexanderlee: True, however, the section of prizes and awards could be added / expanded. Ghostintears (talk) 10:14, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ghostintears: there's an entire article which lists this, but as said you are more than welcome to contribute and make the edits yourself. Alex (talk) 11:45, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2020

Please remove Blackpink from the category "Musical quartets" because simply having four members is insufficient for categorization. 187.55.195.60 (talk) 17:58, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done! GoingBatty (talk) 21:50, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2020

Lisa was born in thailand not South Korea 2600:8800:3000:11B7:F8EA:7876:B7AB:C031 (talk) 08:22, 30 May 2020 (UTC) instead of just putting "Blackpink is a south korean group " you should add... ,but Lisa was born in Thailand

Well, no. Blackpink is a South Korean group. Formed in South Korea, promotes primarily in South Korea. Where Lisa was born is irrelevant to that fact. Alex (talk) 08:46, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2020

As of September 2019, Blackpink is the most-subscribed music group on YouTube.

Change most subscribed group from January 2019 in the introduction by removing it since it is no longer true. Black pink 35.9 million BTS 36.6 million from youtube. BTS: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3IZKseVpdzPSBaWxBxundA Blackpink: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOmHUn--16B90oW2L6FRR3A/aboutSilent29jm (talk) 12:19, 1 June 2020 (UTC) Silent29jm (talk) 12:19, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done that is the Big Hit YouTube channel, not BTS' channel. Alex (talk) 12:26, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2020

Can we add that How You Like That has broken the records for most viewed music video in 24 hours, and fastest music video to hit 10M likes in 2 days, beating the previous record of 41 days? Also HYLT hit 68 #1 on the iTunes world chart, extending their record of being the girl group with the most #1s on iTunes Charts. It also hit triple platinum on QQ charts, within 24 hours of release. They are also now the most subscribed music group and 2nd most subscribed female artist on YouTube. 880yen (talk) 04:16, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Evaders99 (talk) 04:23, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Most followed K-pop idols on Instagram

The four members take the top four spots as the most followed K-pop idols on Instagram, according to this article. Is this something worth noting in the "awards and achievements" section of the article? Something along the lines of: "As of March 2020, the Blackpink members are the most followed K-pop idols on Instagram, with the top four most followed idols being Lisa. Jennie, Rosé and Jisoo, respectively. Alex (talk) 19:25, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

References

Why is this notable? It's basically a popularity award. Evaders99 (talk) 00:57, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

If it's in a particular category, I don't see why not. It's mentioned in the articles for the most-followed person Cristiano Ronaldo, the most-followed woman Ariana Grande, the most-followed rapper Nicki Minaj, etc. It's not just a popularity contest, it's a measure of cultural influence and impact. I get not including it if it was something along the lines of "X is the 63rd most-followed person" or "Y is the ninth most-followed singer", but mentioning here makes sense to me. ƏXPLICIT 02:35, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

This isn't an award or nomination. It could go in the cultural impact or popularity section though. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:36, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@AngusWOOF: you're right, it's not an award or a nomination; but the section is not called "awards and nominations", it's called "awards and achievements". Being listed on Time's "Time 100 Next" is also neither an award nor a nomination, but it is an achievement. I'm not suggesting to mention any and every list that they're mentioned on, but all four of the members taking the top four spots seems somewhat an achievement and shows their impact. There also isn't an impact or popularity section as you're suggesting, which is why I suggested this specific section as the most relevant for the information. Alex (talk) 15:57, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2020

Change the fact about Blackpinks new single releasing between July and August to just only August (It'll be released in that month, they announced it) and it will feature an artist (we don't know who yet) 2001:5B0:2C03:BEE8:20BB:A039:56F0:11B (talk) 22:17, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

 Not done that's already stated in the article, further along in the same paragraph. Alex (talk) 22:23, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Blackpink and their Impact on a new Generation of Music

The Kpop group Blackpink are one of the many artists that have become world renown. They’re ever growing fanbase and fandoms have shown this. They continue to inspire the new and old Blinks while changing a whole new generation of music. Blackpink has changed the music industry by breaking many records in the short amount of time that they have been around. Although Blackpink debuted four years ago because of their popular songs “ddu-du ddu-du” and “How You Like That” they have been constantly asked by many popular song writers to have collaborations as well, some of these artists include: Ariana Grande, Jaden Smith, and even Selena Gomez. They have also already collaborated with some very popular artists already like with Lady Gaga and Dua Lipa. Blackpink has also toured in America after they’re concert at coachella. They are also the very first Kpop group to ever perform on stage at a coachella concert. Jennie, one of Blackpink’s members who is soft spoken, but also has a different side as she sings and raps fiercely when she gets into the second verse of her singing, got more and more of the audience members to take out their phones to capture video. (Feeney, 2019). During this time the audience members were unsure what to think of the girl group as most of them had little knowledge of how powerful their music would be. This shocking moment of the second the audience members realized how amazing Blackpink truly is the cheering and dancing did not stop until they’re moment on stage was over. Even after their concert the audience would not stop cheering and that moment everyone became Blinks. After coachella Blackpink started doing they’re world tour in America due to the huge success at coachella every concert afterwards the fans just kept growing and growing. After this tour fans had to wait another year for their newly released song and soon to come album “How You Like That.” This song has gained the girls a huge boost in popularity because of the anticipation from the fans and new audience members for at least 6 months. For the new hit song the group received 10 million views on youtube in 24 hours which is a world record. (Moon, 2020). They were even able to drop the music during the global pandemic which gave them more support as a whole. “Prior to the release of "How You Like That," the group spoke to TIME over email about the message of the new single, the role that fashion plays in BLACKPINK's releases and dropping music during a global pandemic.” (Moon, 2020). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2400:4153:3163:6500:99A8:23D5:BD2:6BC1 (talk) 16:43, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Please read WP:NOTAFORUM. It's not clear what you want to do with this information for the article. Who is "Moon, 2020". AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 14:57, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 October 2020

Add "On October 21st, Blackpink made appearances on American television to promote their album on Good Morning America and Jimmy Kimmel Live!, making them the first Korean girl group to perform on the late night talk show. When asked for the inspiration behind naming their album, they responded by stating: "We came up with many different other names and at the end of the day, we thought that our fans have been waiting for BLACKPINK’s album for such a long time that there was nothing better than to just name our album ‘BLACKPINK – ‘THE ALBUM.'” " Macymacysag (talk) 20:35, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

 Partly done: Wikipedia generally abstains from using sources like Soompi. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:32, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• See also WP:KO/RS for the list of the reliable sources regarding K-pop. --CrystallineLeMonde (talk) 23:15, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2020

Add "As of October 26th, 2020, YG Entertaiment announced that Blackpink became the first-ever million selling Kpop girl group with them selling approximately 1.2 million copies of The Album in less than a month of its release." Source: https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2020/10/26/entertainment/kpop/blackpink-million-seller-the-album/20201026170600343.html#:~:text=Blackpink%20became%20the%20first%2Dever,group%2C%22%20its%20agency%20said. Macymacysag (talk) 12:41, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

 Done P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 14:47, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 22 November 2020

Please add "On November 20th, Variety announced that Blackpink will be awarded Group Of The Year to Blackpink, making them the first Korean act to receive this award." Source: https://variety.com/2020/music/musicians/hitmakers-harry-styles-how-to-watch-1234837243/ Macymacysag (talk) 02:20, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

 Partly done: I will add the first part, however, Blackpink aren't the first Korean act to receive the Group Of The Year reward from Variety. BTS received it last year Eyebeller (talk) 13:48, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 November 2020

Please add the following:• Best-selling Korean Girl Group in the US and UK • The only Korean Girl Group to have multiple entries in Hot 100 • The Album is the highest Charting Album WORLDWIDE by a Korean Girl Group with 29 entries (high in US, UK, Italy, Australia, Germany, France, Canada, etc)• Highest Charting Korean Girl Group in the US. Both in the Album + Song Category (The Album debuted at #2 in BB200, Ice Cream debuted at #13 in Hot 100) • HYLT, the first foreign song to reach 3M digital sales in China • The first K-pop Group to have PAK this decade with HYLT • The Album- Most streamed Korean Girl Group Album of all time in Spotify

• BLACKPINK most subscribed group in YouTube

• D4 the most viewed MV in YouTube by a Korean Group

• Girl Group with most entries in BB Excl. US and BB Global 200 • The Album- Best-selling Girl Group Album in GAON of all time

• Has the most #1 in iTunes for a girl group both in Album and Song category (The Album- 66 #1's, HYLT- 73 #1's)

• The Album has the Most #1's by a girl group in Apple Music (50 #1's) • Their 1st World Tour is the highest-grossing and most attended Korean Girl Group tour of all time! (472,183 attendees; $56.7M gross revenue)

• Most Followed Korean Girl Group in Spotify • Korean GG with the most cumulative points on GAON with one album (Square Up with over 2B Digital Points)

• The Album has the highest 1st day and 1st week debut streams in Spotify for a Girl Group (The only GG to debut with 30M+ streams in a day and over 140M+ streams in a week)

• HYLT the longest charting Korean Girl Group song in Global Spotify Top 50 • Most Viewed Girl Group in YouTube of all time! • Lovesick Girls the first song by a girl group to debut #1 in BB Excl. US and #2 in BB Global 200

• The only Korean Girl Group to enter the Top 3 in BB200

• Holds the Top 3 spots in YouTube's most viewed MV in 24 hours as a girl group (HYLT, IC, LSG) • The Album is the best selling Album in US by a Korean Girl Group both in pure sales and overall

• The Album is the only Korean GG album that charted #1 for multiple weeks in World Album Charts

• The Album, the fastest KGG Album to have 1M+ sales in United World Chart • HYLT, the best selling Korean Single Album of all time

• BLACKPINK, the highest charting Korean GG in Spotify, YouTube, Apple Music, Official Entries in many Countries, and West Chart. • BLACKPINK Becomes First-Ever Korean Artist to be Ranked at No. 1 on Bloomberg’s Pop Star Power Rankings

• Best-selling debut album by a Korean GG (Square Up)

• First ever Korean Artist to chart all of the track on their debut studio album in Top 1-8 in several countries Image • Blackpink’s kill this love is the first song by a korean girl group / girl group since destiny’s child to debut #1 on US iTunes

• The Album has the Highest First Day Sale and Highest First Week Sale on Hanteo for a Girl Group!

• The First Female Group to Top Artist 100! • The Only Korean Girl Group to have a RIAA certification + the only Korean GG to have multiple songs that sold 500K units in the US (meaning, it is eligible for multiple RIAA gold certifications

• Ice Cream the longest charting Korean Girl Group song in the Hot 100 • First Korean GG to reach #1 in Worldwide Apple Music Chart

• The Album holds that most days at #1 in Apple Worldwide Music Chart for a Female Group

In conclusion, Blackpink paved their own ways. They paved the way for Girl groups in general. They are THE global girl group of this century. They are also known as the most robbed girl group in the kpop industry. They get hated on for no absolute reason, This just shows how much relevancy they have in this industry that everyone is jealous of them. Stream How you like that by Blackpink on youtube for a better life!

Source: https://twitter.com/daveypinks/status/1326768420323471364 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahnoor.sadiq32 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

• Not a single source given, majority of the stuff fails WP:SINGLEVENDOR--Lirim | Talk 08:16, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
• A random twitter fan account is certainely not a reliable source. Alex (talk) 15:41, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 November 2020 (2)

Please add "They are also the first female Korean group to sell more than a million copies of an album with their full length album The Album." to "Blackpink is the highest-charting female Korean act on the Billboard Hot 100, peaking at number 13 with "Ice Cream" (2020), and on the Billboard 200, peaking at number two with The Album (2020).[1][2] They were the first Korean girl group to enter and top Billboard's Emerging Artists chart and to top the Billboard's World Digital Song Sales chart three times.[3] Blackpink was also the first female Korean act to receive a certification from the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) with their hit single "Ddu-Du Ddu-Du" (2018), whose music video is currently the most-viewed by a Korean group on YouTube.[4][5] They have the most top 40 hits in the United Kingdom among all Korean artists,[6] and their 2018 song "Kiss and Make Up" was the first-ever song by a Korean group to receive a certification from the British Phonographic Industry (BPI)[7][8][9] and be certified platinum by the Australian Recording Industry Association (ARIA).[10]"

Source: http://gaonchart.co.kr/main/section/chart/album.gaon?nationGbn=T&serviceGbn=&targetTime=10&hitYear=2020&termGbn=month Macymacysag (talk) 14:30, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. The link given doesn't actually say that they're the first group to do so; it's just the chart. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 03:06, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Here is a more accurate source: https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2020/10/26/entertainment/kpop/blackpink-million-seller-the-album/20201026170600343.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macymacysag (talk • contribs) 01:46, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

the show

please add 'the show', their online concert on 27th dec — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackpinkmylifeu (talk • contribs) 02:32, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: no sources were provided. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 03:24, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2020

Could you please change Blackpink member roles? A quick google search of Blackpink members present: Jennie - Vocals and Lisa - Sub Vocals, but it'd be more accurate if it were: Jennie - Main rapper Lisa: Rapper Snow Fiestar (talk) 05:01, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ƏXPLICIT 11:00, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Jennie-Main Rapper, Lead Vocal Lisa- Lead Rapper, Main Dancer, Vocalist, Maknae ( youngest member of group ) Rose- Main Vocalist, Visual, Lead Dancer Jisoo- Visual, Lead Vocalist . And that is their main roles.Link- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSM4Ca71Fvs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aloha13579 (talk • contribs) 10:29, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Some random person's YouTube channel is not a reliable source. Please try again. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 03:34, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

To add to article

To add to this article: the meaning/significance of the name "Blackpink." 173.88.246.138 (talk) 23:48, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Please cite a reliable source with your claim. Please note: Soompi, Allkpop, and related websites are not reliable sources and will not be used. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 23:52, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

I don't think I need to cite the source to change the fact that BP broke the record for most views on YouTube in 24 hours. BTS broke that in August with Dynamite. Rockermom59 (talk) 04:10, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

No, you 100% do. You would need a source stating “BTS broke Blackpink's record of...” for that to be added to the article. Otherwise it’s WP:SYNTH. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 15:16, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 November 2020

As of October 2020, Blackpink received three Inkigayo Triple Crowns for "How You Like That," "Ice Cream" and "Lovesick Girls," making them the group with the most number of wins in 2020, and the first act to win six trophies in a row. Macymacysag (talk) 13:18, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Please provide reliable sources that back this statement up. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 13:19, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Inkigayo_Chart_winners_(2020) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macymacysag (talk • contribs) 14:32, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Wikipedia can't usually be cited within itself unless the page is published by another reliable media. Please find a reliable source. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 03:31, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Okay I assume by this citation that you're excluding BTS. Because if you weren't excluding them you would know that they have countless more awards than BP this year, last year, every year since BP started and of course we know even more before that since they started in 2013. The difference here is that people like to say well BP has only been performing since 2016 and BTS started in 2013 might I remind you that anyone and everyone that had the opportunity to do so slammed and bullied and basically dismissed BTS with comments like they'd never make it they're no good they're nothing. Shit who's laughing now? Rockermom59 (talk) 04:08, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

What???? How does this relate to the conversation above? Please see WP:NPOV and come back when you can handle this like a mature, neutral person. Also - According to that source, Blackpink did better than BTS this year. BTS holds 7 positions, while Blackpink holds 9. Just to clarify. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 15:19, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2020

Please add "BLACKPINK’s Debut Album ‘THE ALBUM’ becomes the first girl-group album to receive an official million certification by Gaon Music Chart." to Blackpink is the highest-charting female Korean act on the Billboard Hot 100, peaking at number 13 with "Ice Cream" (2020), and on the Billboard 200, peaking at number two with The Album (2020). They were the first Korean girl group to enter and top Billboard's Emerging Artists chart and to top the Billboard's World Digital Song Sales chart three times. Blackpink was also the first female Korean act to receive a certification from the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) with their hit single "Ddu-Du Ddu-Du" (2018), whose music video is currently the most-viewed by a Korean group on YouTube. They have the most top 40 hits in the United Kingdom among all Korean artists, and their 2018 song "Kiss and Make Up" was the first-ever song by a Korean group to receive a certification from the British Phonographic Industry (BPI)[7][8][9] and be certified platinum by the Australian Recording Industry Association (ARIA). Source: https://yg-life.com/archives/163216?lang=en 2603:6080:2D08:6F00:B93F:9664:5919:B554 (talk) 11:49, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. Not in source. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 12:40, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2021

Jisoo is Blackpink's visual Mylifeasgirl (talk) 16:48, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 17:11, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Hip Hop?

Is Blackpink really a hip hop and trap group? I'm looking for a reliable source. Who can tell me? HONDA Gang (Talk) 09:20, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2021

37.6.89.168 (talk) 21:58, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Jennie : Main rapper and lead singer , center and face of the group Lisa :main dancer and lead rapper Jisoo :lead vocalist, visual Rosé : Main vocalist , lead dancer

 Not done: - provide a reliable source for these Evaders99 (talk) 22:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2021

Please remove the line indicating Ddu-Du Ddu-Du is the most viewed video by a Korean Artist on YouTube as that is not accurate 207.164.124.82 (talk) 14:47, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:55, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 April 2021

Blackpink members

Jisoo: visual, lead vocal Jennie: main rapper, lead vocal, center and face of group Rosè : main vocal, lead dancer Lisa : mian dancer , lead rapper

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jendkook (talk • contribs) 11:11, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 11:21, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2021

SquirrelTV (talk) 14:58, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

File:Blackpink for Billboard 2021.jpg

 Not done Copyrighted images not allowed in Wikipedia. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:02, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

• Note: They are allowed, if the user has the rights for them, which is here most likely not the case. I'll propose it for deletion.--Lirim | Talk 15:03, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

@Lirim.Z: Yup they are allowed if user has the rights however it isn't for this case, which was why I written it as such. Hopefully that answer your comment. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:11, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Infobox image

Hi everyone, there are 370 page watchers of Blackpink and more than 100 for all the members; so I think it is better to have a have a consensus on the infobox image for this article and for the members' (Jisoo, Jennie, Rosé and Lisa) and stick to it. Because everytime I visit, I see a new infobox image, which is completely unnecessary as nothing was wrong with the previous image. According to MOS:LEADIMAGE, infobox image is to give readers visual confirmation that they've arrived at the right page. So certainly, it is not for the most recent image we have in our gallery (Wikimedia Commons). There is no policy on wikipedia to use the most recent ones, but certainly there is for the quality of image. I think, we should also not change the image in few months or a year unless anyone of them undergoes a major facial change. There are many BLP articles which uses old images even when there are new, properly licensed, and of standard quality pictures available on Commons (example: Priyanka Chopra, Emma Watson). Per WP:BLPIMAGE we should also keep in mind, that we should not include images where the subject did not expect to be photographed.

So, I propose to:

• Swap present infobox image of Lisa with the one present under Lisa (rapper)#Fashion and photography per MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE.
• No change should be made for the infobox image unless a new consensus is reached (for this and members' article).

Note: Please feel free to correct me if I have made a mistake. Thank you. -ink&fables «talk» 04:21, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

@-ink&fables Support for both. The Lisa one was recently changed back to older version and then back to current photoshoot version. The airport one doesn't look too bad and seem much more appropriate than the photoshoot version. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 04:35, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello fellow editors, I just wanna add a Note to this discussion. Lisa debut as a solo artist is coming in a month and if there will be no latest photo of Lisa from 2021, there is going to be at least a 1000 people trying to change that in a month. I suggest you to leave a current photo or change it in to a new photo from 2021, if you don't want a 1000 people coming here to change that for you. Have a good day and Happy editing fellow editors ITIRIKBP (talk) 20:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC).

Update to sentence in the lead about UK Top 40 hits

"They have the most top 40 hits in the United Kingdom among all Korean artists" - I just wanted to point out that this was no longer the case following the release of BTS' "Butter", which tied both acts at 6 Top-40 entries each. And now with PTD's debut, BTS has 7 in total, while BP still only has 6. The statement should either be removed or updated to state that BP has the most top 40 hits for a female Korean act, or the second most top 40 hits among all Korean artists, provided there is a reliable secondary source to support the wording of whatever modification is made. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 01:36, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie: Updating it with "for a female Korean act" is better. -ink&fables «talk» 05:32, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@-ink&fables: regardless of which wording is better, there needs to also be a reliable source saying so (as I said above) or it can't be mentioned at all, even if it is true. Some editors would have just removed it altogether with a note in the edit summary stating that the info is no longer correct, but I left a msg here instead to give y'all time to find something that can be used to update it. If there's nothing, it'll have to go. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 12:57, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie Add "in September 2020 to July 2021" with this source to support the ending (July 2021) portion? Alternatively, add both the chart (BTS + Blackpink) to the further support it. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:30, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Paper9oll: I disagree. The Forbes article doesn't mention any dates or time periods. Only that blackpink held the record at the beginning of the year and bts tied it with the release of Butter (no date given there). One would have to surmise the time period that BP held the record for (Sept'20–Jul'21 as you suggested) and when bts broke the tie to claim the lead based on the date the article was written and the release date of PTD/the week it debuted on the UK Chart, neither of which are mentioned in the article. Imo it would be better to just remove it from the lead. It could instead be mentioned in the Career section prose (in the appropriate time period) that BP became the Korean act w the most top-40 hits in the UK at the time when their single X debuted/charted at #Y in Z month of whichever year they achieved the record. We have an actual straightforward source to support that wo going through any sourcing gymnastics to prove it. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 05:26, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie I'm fine with removing it if there are no alternative options available. My intention for adding "in September 2020 to July 2021" was because the existing included source was published dated month of September 2020 while the source for BTS having surpassing BP 6 top 40 hits by achiving 7 top 40 hits was published dated month of July 2021 so that fulfiled the verification. In addition, adding the chart source for both group would further enhance the 6 to 7 record by supporting the two Forbes source, I know the article wasn't clear and explict in their reporting by just mentioning that BTS was previously tied with BP before PTD release hence adding chart source would support the figures value. Maybe, including exact charted date would be more accurate but also more tedious, I prefer simple solution instead. I'm also fine with moving to career section. So to sum up, I'm fine with removing it or moving to career section if there are no alternative options available. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 06:44, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

@Paper9oll: even then, Sept'20-Jul'21 still wouldn't be correct because BTS tied BP w Butter in May (May 28 iirc) so BP would only have held the record up to then, before having to share it for a little over a month w BTS until PTD's debut in July. Extrapolating a time period based on article dates is not WP practice afaik, and using chart data to further support that would be stretching it (I don't wanna say it's OR because that's not the correct term but you get the idea). It's always best to stick to what the sources say, so I'll move it from the lead to the body as prev mentioned, and if my wording needs adjusting after the move, please feel free to do so accordingly. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 16:01, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie Yes understood, I'm fine with moving to body section. Would see if copyedit is needed after moving. Thanks — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:10, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

added dance-pop musicians category.

I have added the Dance-pop musicians category to the members' articles because all of their infoboxes (if you look at the genre section) say dance-pop. Thecharacterwannaie (talk) 13:57, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2021

Did you know Rosé was the first Blackpink member to own a tiktok account (roses_are_rosie)? And Jennie was the first member to have a solo (SOLO), Lisa was the first member to have a career other than singing (dancing) and Jisoo was the first member to appear in a k-drama as a co-lead (Snowdrop) GAFDCX (talk) 11:45, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -ink&fables «talk» 11:58, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2021

requesting straight-forward changes like grammar, spelling, formatting Yes check.svg requesting more substantive changes, if they are justified with reference to reliable sources, and not the subject of ongoing discussion

BLACKPINK has 6 grammys and 2 BILLBOARD AWARDS

Yeah, BLACKPINK HAS 6 GRAMMYS Jen my Life (talk) 23:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:54, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2021

In the section of “Members”, add the word ‘visual’ and place it next to Jisoo and remove the word ‘vocalist’ which is placed next to Lisa. Epic spoiler (talk) 22:17, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes. Epic spoiler (talk) 22:17, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: The positions are based on the given source. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:41, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 November 2021

I will just add minor changes to grammatical and formatting mistakes in this article. Epic spoiler (talk) 21:02, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

1. Jisoo: lead vocalist, visual. 2. Below group picture: typing (on) instead of (in). Epic spoiler (talk) 21:04, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 21:28, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Editing

Just wanted to do edit Mmohit r (talk) 06:59, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Request for a minor yet 'important' change!

Greetings from a Blink :)

I just want to request that in the section of Members , please add the word "Visual" next to Jisoo along with 'Vocalist'. It'd look nicer and also, even the company has stated that Jisoo is the 'visual' of the group. All 4 members are very beautiful but still, the role of visual has been assigned to Kim Jisoo so hereby I request you for this minor yet 'important' change to be done. Thanks

Awaiting a positive response.

Regards. Rajvirgautam (talk) 09:44, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done as per consensus at WT:KO (search through the archives) to not include such terms along with "Center", "Maknae", "Face of the group", and other similar meaning terms. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 09:57, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Sourcing in lead

Is there a particular reason why so many refs are included in the lead? All that info should already be appropriately sourced in the body of the article, not the lead. I don't want to rmv the sources as I don't contribute to this page and therefore don't know if all of it is already properly cited in the prose, but the editors who maintain it should clean that up. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 22:48, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2022

They charted at number one and two on the Billboard World Digital Song Sales chart, making Blackpink the fastest act to achieve such a feat and the fourth Korean artist to hold the top two positions simultaneously, after label mates Psy and Big Bang and BTS from Big Hit Entertainment. [38]

BTS took the top 3 positions simultaneously on the said chart on 21st May 2016 with #1 Fire, #2 Save Me and #3 Epilogue: Young Forever. MiniMoni875 (talk) 18:50, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:58, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2022

There is a misinformation under the 'CAREER' '2016-2018' section regarding the World Digital Song Sales chart record.

"They charted at number one and two on the Billboard World Digital Song Sales chart, making Blackpink the fastest act to achieve such a feat and the third Korean artist to hold the top two positions simultaneously, after label mates Psy and Big Bang.[38]"

Blackpink are not the 3rd artist to achieve this feat rather fourth. BTS also achieved this in May 2016. In fact BTS topped the top 3 positions simultaneously making them the only artist to do so. 1. Fire 2. Save Me 3. Epilogue: Young Forever

Source: https://www.billboard.com/pro/bts-young-forever-album-billboard-200-world-charts/ https://www.billboard.com/charts/world-digital-song-sales/2016-05-21/ MiniMoni875 (talk) 00:02, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done Changed it to say third YG Entertainment artist instead of Korean. I am not sure how they stated this fact incorrectly seeing as it was same Billboard writer that wrote both articles. Pretty much stated same facts he did in BTS article about Psy and Big Bang doing it, but forgot about it when writing Blackpink article. Anyways article isn't inaccurate anymore, could be reworded better if needed. WikiVirusC^(talk) 14:01, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Infobox photo AI upscaled?

The current infobox photo (File:Blackpink PUBG 210321.jpg) looks like it was heavily AI upscaled, using an app such as Remini or etc., not sure if it is allowed for infobox photos? However, the quality does look much better, even if the upscaling is almost within uncanny valley territory. Theknine2 (talk) 19:57, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

American English

I have set the English variant for this article to en-US. See the earliest revision, which uses the spelling stylized. If you would like to know more about en-US and en-UK, see Comparison of American and British English, American English, and British English. A diehard editor (talk | edits) 07:09, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Multiple files listed for discussion by IP

Multiple files related to Blackpink discography has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion by IP. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 04:58, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2023

Edit that Jisoo also debuted as a soloist! Factsonlyspillage (talk) 14:26, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 9️⃣8️⃣🐯♒️ 14:41, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2023

Atiseyy (talk) 15:11, 11 June 2023 (UTC) Adding a link to "As If It's Your Last" song.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Actualcpscm (talk) 16:06, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Jisoo positions

isnt she also sub-rapper and visual. If visual is not accepted as a position then she should at least be sub-rapper. Abclj12 (talk) 19:27, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

This is true. Rapping isn’t really her position, but she is not vocalist alone. She is also visual isn’t it? How can that not be excepted as a position. It is important. Rajasrikakaraparthi (talk) 18:07, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Why 2001:5B0:47C6:28:C480:68D5:7EF2:56A5 (talk) 05:53, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Edit request

Filmograph -> Filmography. Thanks. 92.4.165.90 (talk) 09:54, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Done. ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 10:02, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Pre-debut Members

Should they be added to the timeline graph below? ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 15:56, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

No, they were never part of the group and not notable.Evaders99 (talk) 21:28, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

No, timeline is for members only. Even though I'm not sure why is there a need for such here when there are no changes to the members in which the main purpose of having a timeline is to show in graphics the changes in lineup given that it is positioned in the member's section. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 05:43, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 October 2023

Beside Jisoo's position name (vocalist) in the 'members' section, add another position name to justify her secondary role in the group: visual. Crimsonful (talk) 18:19, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:09, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Member's MBE POSTNOM in lede

See also: Talk:Rosé (singer) § MBE or not?, and Talk:Jennie (singer) § MBE

Noting that, MBE POSTNOM has been removed from Jisoo, Jennie, Lisa per this, this, and this revision, respectively, by @Mr. D. E. Mophon with the rationale of "Per Wikipedia guideline WP:MOSBIO, [subject] is South Korean, not British. Honours issued by other countries may be mentioned in the article, but should generally be omitted from the lead". Currently, only Rosé has MBE POSTNOM per discussion because the non-RfC options provided is that she is using "an English name [hence] compatible to the British title" however I would like to correct that listing MBE POSTNOM in the lead of Rosé is because New Zealand (in which Rosé is a New Zealander herself) is part of the commonwealth realm. Regardless, the purpose of making this discussion is for the record and/or easy referencing when required to quote as WP:HIDDEN notes and/or edit summary. If required, discussion are still welcome per WP:CONSENSUS and WP:COMMUNICATE. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 12:51, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Just contributing some additional context/justification regarding Rosé's title.

The Associated Press reported that "Roseanne (Rosé) Park also received an MBE, though hers came without the “honorary” qualifier because she has dual citizenship in New Zealand, one of the 14 countries where the U.K. monarch is head of state." Poohwoo (talk) 14:18, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

"also received an MBE" is the same award they received from the king. JK928374 (talk) 00:41, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

https://www.royal.uk/news-and-activity/2023-11-22/the-king-presents-honorary-mbes-to-blackpink

https://honours.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/how-to-nominate/#:~:text=They'll%20be%20given%20an,King%20is%20Head%20of%20State

"Non-UK citizens can be considered for an honour for their work within the UK."

All members of Blackpink received the same MBE award from King Charles. Jisoo, Jennie, Lisa's BME status is listed on the British royal official webpage and is true; the user paper9oll's action needs to be reverted and corrected as per facts. JK928374 (talk) 00:28, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

@JK928374 For clarification, I'm not the one that removed them from Jisoo, Jennie, and Lisa articles, respectively, as evidenced by this, this, and this. In addition, for the 3 members, their MBE is listed in the body section instead of lede per MOS:POSTNOM, it wasn't omitted completely, hence I'm not sure why your reply implied such. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 06:38, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Rumors about Blackpink leaving YG Entertainment

According to several news outlets, all the Blackpink members have left YG Entertainment. Should we update the article? 2A04:4A43:8ACF:F3DF:5D82:583E:F825:C1FE (talk) 19:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

They haven't left the company completely. YG will still manage them as a group instead of individually. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 20:49, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 March 2024

omestic fame in 2016 with their single "Cheer Up", which charted at number one on the Gaon Digital Chart, became the best-performing single of the year, and won "Song of the Year" at the Melon Music Awards and Mnet Asian Music Awards. Their next single, "TT", from their third EP Twicecoaster: Lane 1, topped the Gaon charts for four consecutive weeks. The EP was the highest selling Korean girl group album of 2016. Within 19 months after debut, Twice had already sold over 1.2 million units of their four EPs and special album. As of 2022, the group has sold over 15 million albums cumulatively in South Korea and Japan.[2][3]

The group debuted in Japan on June 28, 2017, under Warner Music Japan, with the release of a compilation album titled #Twice.[4] The album charted at number 2 on the Oricon Albums Chart with the highest first-week album sales by a K-pop artist in Japan in two years. It was followed by the release of Twice's first original Japanese maxi single titled "One More Time" in October. Twice became the first Korean girl group to earn a platinum certification from the Recording Industry Association of Japan (RIAJ) for both an album and CD single in the same year. Twice ranked third in the Top Artist category of Billboard Japan's 2017 Year-end Rankings, and in 2019, they became the first Korean girl group to embark on a Japanese dome tour. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.159.61.46 (talk) 15:32, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 17:16, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2024

Image caption in § Public image: "lightsick" -> "lightstick"

(Yes, I did google it to make sure that "lightsick" wasn't really a thing!)

- 2A02:560:5829:B000:3035:7BA6:5759:C13C (talk) 12:25, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:31, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 May 2024

2001:8003:3B71:1F00:990E:9A1C:4DF:B6E8 (talk) 10:35, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

lisa bday id 27th march

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 11:33, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

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This article is well written, provides an overview of the topic, and with suitable sources.

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.

   a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

This review is transcluded from Talk:Blackpink/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Nkon21 (talk · contribs) 19:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Nominator: Nkon21 (talk · contribs) 19:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Reviewer: Someone who likes maps (talk · contribs) 06:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

@Someone who likes maps: this is not a proper GA review 750h+ 07:37, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Blackpink/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Nkon21 (talk · contribs) 19:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Reviewer: Tbhotch (talk · contribs) 19:22, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Upcoming review.

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality (prose is clear and concise, without exceeding quotations, or spelling and grammar errors):

   Occasional issues

   B. MoS compliance (including, but not limited to: lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists):

   Occasional issues with weasel phrases

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources (including an appropriate reference section):

   Some statements are not present

   B. Citation of available and reliable sources where necessary (including direct quotations):

   C. No original research:

   D. No copyright violations:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

   The article focuses on the group and their history

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

   The article is mainly about the band's accomplishments, but these are written with a neutral tone.

5. Is it stable?

   edit wars, multiple edits not related to the GAN process, etc. (this excludes blatant vandalism):

6. Does it contain images (or other media) to illustrate (or support) the topic?

   A. Images (and other media) are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   The images are acceptable and properly tagged. The non-free files are used minimally and with critical commentary

   B. Images (and other media) are provided where possible and are relevant, with suitable captions:

   A couple of files that don't illustrate the sections they appear correctly

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

@Nkon21 and Flabshoe1: sorry for the delay. As soon as I complete John Rudge's review, I'll continue with this one. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 01:00, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Lead

• "Cited as the "biggest girl group in the world"," → WP:WEASEL
• "they are considered" → WEASEL
• "two billion views on YouTube, and remains" → wrong comma
• "since Danity Kane in 2008 and set two" → "since Danity Kane in 2008, and it set two"
• "The album's lead single "Pink Venom" (2022) was the" → "The album's lead single, "Pink Venom" (2022), was the
• "Blackpink have broken" → Blackpink is or Blackpink are?
• "30 Under 30 Asia, and were named" → unneeded comma
• The whole lead is about achievements. Will the whole article be about accomplishments? This is not List of awards and nominations received by Blackpink or Cultural impact of Blackpink. How did they come to be? They were not born successful. What do they do while not performing? I know the article has that information because you have the sections Formation and pre-debut activities, Endorsements, Philanthropy. If they exist, then they are important enough to have subsections that can be summarized in the lead paragraph.

2010–2016

• "Blackpink began forming" → when, in 2009? Because 2NE1 also formed in 2009
• "the pace of training alongside the culture shock was especially difficult" → "the pace of training and the culture shock were especially difficult"
• "Since then, numerous news and rumors surfaced" → "news stories". Also, "since then" implies that this hasn't stopped
• "It was only on May 18" → "It was until May 18"
• "member revealed, on June" → wrong comma
• "native country Thailand and" → "native country, Thailand, and" or "native Thailand"
• "Jisoo also made a cameo appearance in 2015 drama" → in the 2015

@Nkon21 and Flabshoe1: I'll continue either tomorrow or on Thursday. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 04:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for starting the review. As per your comments, I have updated the lead to incorporate more sections of the article, and have corrected the grammatical errors listed. Flabshoe1 (talk) 02:26, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks.

2016–2017

• You can link single album since it is not a common term outside South Korea.

It was described as a "mixed genre of music" → by whom?

• "Billboard's Bubbling Under Hot 100 chart, becoming their first song to enter the Bubbling Under Hot 100" → repetitive
• "The music video for the song later..." needs to be moved to the previous paragraph.
• "self-titled Japanese extended play" → "self-titled Japanese extended play (EP)"

2018–2019

• "one on Gaon Album Chart" → the Gaon
• "led Blackpink to becoming the first" → "led Blackpink to become the first"
• "Gaon Digital Chart while "Forever Young"" → "Chart, while "Forever Young""
• "and became the highest-charting song by a Korean girl group in the country" → at that time
• "the second most-watched music video of all time in first 24 hours of release" → "the second most-watched music video of all time in the first 24 hours of release
• "at Kyocera Dome Osaka" → "at the Kyocera Dome Osaka"
• "By the end of its run, the tour became" → The way it is written, "By the end of its run, the tour had became"
• "marking Blackpink's second entry in the chart" → on the chart
• "The group embarked to Japan for a variety of promotional activities" → "The group embarked on a variety of promotional activities in Japan"
• "In January of the following year, Blackpink were" → Blackpink is or Blackpink are
• "Break the Internet Awards™ list" → Legal symbols are discouraged

I had 2020 already but an edit conflict occurred. So I'll redo it tomorrow. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 03:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

2020–2021

• This is also found in the previous section, change the 100,000,000 streams to 100 million streams
• "On April 22, 2020, it was confirmed the group" → "that the group". Also, who confirmed it?
• "The show documents their 2020 comebacks alongside sharing" → "while sharing"
• "as well as of Rosé's song "Gone" from her first solo single album R" → "as well as Rosé's song "Gone" from her first solo single álbum, R"
• "Blackpink released a Japanese version of The Album on August 3, 2021, with Japanese versions for four out of the eight tracks [...], which peaked at number three on the Oricon Albums Chart" → I know you meant that The Album peaked at number three, but this can imply that the versions did it instead.

2022–present

• "It peaked at number two on South Korea's Circle Digital Chart and number 22 on the Billboard Hot 100 and became" → "It peaked at number two on South Korea's Circle Digital Chart, number 22 on the Billboard Hot 100, and became"
• "Blackpink released their second studio album Born Pink alongside" → "Blackpink released their second studio album, Born Pink, alongside"
• There are some previously linked articles that are linked again, including Hot 100, Global 200, Billboard 200, R (single album), etc.
• " in pure sales during 2022 according" → "in pure sales during 2022, according"
• Seoul, London and Paris are common cities, so they don't need a link
• "The encore leg set several historical records, including making them the first Korean girl group to perform in a stadium in Europe, the first girl group to perform at Allegiant Stadium, Oracle Park, and Dodger Stadium" → where are those stadiums located? Europe or the US?
• "a promotional single titled "The Girls" which" → "a promotional single titled "The Girls", which"
• "their mobile game, Blackpink: The Game on" → "their mobile game, Blackpink: The Game, on"
• "becoming the second group ever to win the latter award since TLC in 1999" → "becoming the second group since TLC in 1999 to receive the latter honor."
• "under discussion, and later" → wrong comma
• "Billboard announced the Blackpink: A VR Encore" → "Billboard announced Blackpink: A VR Encore"

Artistry

• File:Ddu-Du Ddu-Du - Blackpink sample.ogg's rationale is for Lovesick Girls
• "Their discography also utilizes a range of musical styles" → "They also use a variety of musical styles throughout their discography, such as"
• "Their music is often characterized by a fusion of "bold rapping, powerful singing and chic styling"" → Who is being quoted?
• ""rewrote the definition of K-pop and their beauty, It's for them not for anyone else."" → typo
• "Other artists that the group have" → has

Public image

• "naming their song "Pretty Savage" as the song that described them → describes
• "image in K-pop, and for" → wrong comma
• "as larger-than-life idols", "But in carefully" → "as larger-than-life idols [...] [b]ut in carefully"
• "to South Korean hanbok, through" → hanbok is italicized; wrong comma
• File:BLACKPINK Pink Venom Tour 2022 (52544176071).jpg appears but its relevance is not mentioned in the section

The section discusses Blackpink's fandom power and the light stick represents the group's fandom, so I still feel that the image is appropriate.

 Done up to here. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 13:53, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Legacy

• "Since their debut, Blackpink have emerged" → has
• File:BLACKPINK Pink Venom Tour 2022 (2).jpg appears appears but its relevance is not mentioned in the section
• "they ranked first on Forbes Korea Power Celebrity 40 list" → the Forbes
• "Bloomberg wrote that alongside BTS," → "Bloomberg wrote that, alongside BTS,
• "The group was hailed one" → as one.
• "by Rolling Stone while South China Morning Post" → "by Rolling Stone, while the South China Morning Post"
• Today, at 32, I learned that LG is Korean and not Japanese.
• "Sisa Journal identified Blackpink's global influence as a stand out" → According to wikt:stand out, it is a verb, so "standout"
• "their contributions in spreading" → "their contributions to spreading"
• "industry while Variety" → "industry, while Variety"
• "They became the third girl group in history to cover Rolling Stone, after the Spice Girls and Destiny's Child, when they covered the magazine's June 2022 issue" → "They covered the June 2022 issue of Rolling Stone, making history's third girl group to do so after Destiny's Child and the Spice Girls.
• There are some previously linked articles that are linked again, including, but not limited to, Spice Girls, Destiny's Child, Time, Wonder Girls

Other ventures

• Blackpink have acquired → has
• "Globally, Blackpink were" → "Globally, the group members were"
• "Kia Motors, which also served as title sponsor" → the
• In Your Area World Tour was already linked
• "In June 2020, Blackpink collaborated" → they collaborated. You mention the band's name too many times in a short paragraph
• "The group featured Galaxy S10+ and Galaxy Buds" → Galaxy S10+ smartphones and Galaxy Buds earphones/earbuds
• "Blackpink became the first regional brand ambassadors" → Blackpink is a singular
• "for Singaporean e-commerce platform, Shopee," → wrong commas
• "Blackpink became spokesperson for" → a spokesperson
• "Greater China, Philippines" → the Philippines
• "Blackpink in December 2020 as its brand ambassadors. [...] In South Korea, Blackpink have been brand ambassadors [...] Blackpink became honorary ambassadors [...] On February 25, 2021, Blackpink were", etc. → Same as above. It is valid to use plurals when you use plural pronouns, but this article is written in American English and since the very beginning, it was said that Blackpink is a group.
• "In his speech for a state banquet hosting South Korean President President Yoon Suk Yeol" → typo
• King Charles III's nationality needs to be mentioned

Awards and achievements

• There are some previously linked articles that are linked again
• "the UK and US album charts respectively with" → "the UK and US album charts, respectively, with"
• "their second studio album Born Pink" → "their second studio album, Born Pink"

Done up to here.

Members

• It mentions their positions inside the group. This information should have been mentioned earlier

Filmography

• Some have sources for some reason, but others don't
• [[Blackpink World Tour [Born Pink] In Cinemas]] (2024) needs to be fixed

@Nkon21 and Flabshoe1: I'll continue with the references tomorrow. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 04:35, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

References

• Earwig reports 32.4% of similarity with a Billboard link. You'll need to paraphrase some phrases

• The same with "Le Gala des Pièces Jaunes charity event organized by the first lady of France, Brigitte Macron" [1].

• Source 3 (KBS World) goes to a newer archived version. The archived link works correctly.
• Source 5 (Popdust) is a dead link. The archived link says "Is Nazi Chic so bad? Nazi-Chic: The Aesthetics of Fascism"
• Source 51 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 63 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 64 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 75 (Time) "The concert was the first show of the In Your Area World Tour, which continued throughout 2019 and early 2020 in North America, Europe, Oceania and Asia." is not mentioned by Time
• Sources 69 and 77 are the same, Official Charts Company. Please note this will change the subsequent numbering
• Source 81 (Billboard) "On October 23, the group signed with Interscope Records in a global partnership with YG Entertainment; they were to be represented by Interscope and Universal Music Group outside of Asia" → Close paraphrase: "The talented foursome will be represented by Interscope and Universal Music Group worldwide, outside of Asia."
• Source 82 (MTV Asia) "In November 2018, Blackpink announced additional tour dates for their In Your Area World Tour, which covered thirteen dates across Asia from January to March 2019." I only could read 8 dates.
• Source 85 → Needs a publisher. Also, it seems to be a paywall service, so |url-access=subscription
• Source 86 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 94 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 107 (BBC) "It was also their first top-twenty single in the UK, debuting at number 17." The first statement is not present in the source.

@Nkon21 and Flabshoe1: I'll pause at the moment. I should complete the review tomorrow. If you have any comments or questions, ping me back. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 07:08, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

• Source 118 and 119 (Yg Life and Sports Seoul) "On July 23, YG Entertainment announced that a second single, "Ice Cream" with American singer Selena Gomez, would be released on August 28." → The sources don't mention Gomez's participation.
• Source 120 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 125 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 128 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 130 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 131 (Los Angeles Times) |url-access=subscription
• Source 133 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 135 (Bloomberg) |url-access=registration
• Source 136 (South China Morning Post) |url-access=subscription
• Source 142 (Billboard) "To promote the release, they appeared on Japanese music television programs such as TV Asahi's Music Station." → This statement is not present in the source
• Source 145 (HeraldPop) Is "POP, 헤럴드" a person?
• Source 149 (YG Life) → Avoid WP:ALLCAPS
• Source 153 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 155 (Rolling Stone) |url-access=subscription
• Source 158 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 161 (officialcharts.com) has a different header. It also has an author and a publication date.
• Source 163 (IFPI) "The album was the seventh best-selling album worldwide in pure sales during 2022, according to the IFPI." The source says eighth.
• Source 165 (Rolling Stone) |url-access=subscription
• Sources 169 and 170 (NME and Billboard) "The tour continued in 2023 with stadium shows across Asia as well as several concerts in Mexico and Australia". The sources don't mention Mexico
• Source 178 (Vulture) |url-access=subscription
• Source 183 (Billboard) is Source 170. It needs the right source
• Source 186 (Billboard) "Produced by the Diamond Bros, the 70-minute concert premiered in VR on December 26 in Meta Horizon Worlds" → December 26 is not mentioned, naturally

Per source, BLACKPINK: A VR Encore premieres in VR on Tuesday, Dec. 26

• Source 194 (Rolling Stone) |url-access=subscription
• Source 195 (Rolling Stone) |url-access=subscription
• Source 202 (Rolling Stone) |url-access=subscription
• Source 223 (South China Morning Post) |url-access=subscription
• Source 224 (Rolling Stone) |url-access=subscription

Addressed up to here. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 02:40, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

• Source 224 (Grammys) is a dead link
• Source 226 (The New York Times) |url-access=subscription
• Source 246 (The New York Times) |url-access=subscription
• Source 256 (KoogleTV) is a dead link
• Source 272 (The Star) |url-access=subscription
• Source 285 (YGEX) is a dead link
• Source 288 (Elle) is a dead link
• Source 298 (Koki News) is a dead link
• "Blackpink's accolades include thirteen Guinness World Records, fourteen Circle Chart Music Awards, seven Golden Disc Awards, eleven MAMA Awards, five Melon Music Awards, four MTV Video Music Awards, three People's Choice Awards, four Seoul Music Awards, a Billboard Music Award, a MTV Europe Music Award, and a Teen Choice Award." needs sources
• Source 305 (TenAsia) is a dead link
• Sources 308 and 115 (Guinness) are the same
• Source 309 (Guinness) is a dead link
• Source 310 (Guinness) is a dead link
• Sources 311 and 202 (Rolling Stone) are the same
• Source 315 (Guinness) is a dead link

That's the full review. Thank you for your time and for working on it in the meantime. Once you complete the concerns, let me know. If you have any comments or questions, ping me back. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 20:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the detailed notes, and I've gone through and addressed all remaining points. For the Earwig report of similarity to the Billboard link, I've reduced it by over a percentage with some paraphrasing but have been unclear as to how to do so further as the detected parts are fairly generic phrases such as "the first K-pop girl group". Let me know if you have any suggestions. Flabshoe1 (talk) 03:06, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Unfortunately, common and generic phrases are read as a match by the tool, but the reported percentages have decreased. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 06:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

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lead style

It seems to me like the lead has three paragraphs exclusivelly dedicated to the group achievements, prizes and such, which does not reflect how Wikipedia envision a lead section on his manual of style.

According to Wikipedia guidelines the lead section should establish context and include mentions of significant criticism or controversies. Context is extremelly underdeveloped, which is particularly strange for a group that is so prominent, and no controversy or criticism is present, of which there could be none, I am no expert to judge.

This issue in the lead section is by no means only reserved to Blackpink, it is shared by mostly K-pop groups and should be, in my opinion, fixed. Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 11:26, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

removal of "female empowerement" from lead

User @Lightlylove removed the usage of "female empowerement" from lead, I reverted their edit because there is a source on the article that says (deepl translation) "has become a “wannabe” in Korea and around the world for its empowering female songs" https://m.entertain.naver.com/article/421/0006550347

I think it is important to discuss this kind of removal of information on the talk page first. As per wikipedia guidelines "when not to remove content" If there is a source that you believe to be misrepresented, or not reliable, or invalid for any other reason, the matter should be raised on the article's talk page.

In this specific case I found another very good nuanced source, for exemple, that describes how Blackpink is associated with girl crush and female empowerement, what it means etc https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/girl-crush-k-pop-feminism-2018-8491604/ The current place on lead seems appropriate to me, but it could be developped further into the lead following this and other sources. Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 20:40, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

I think there is a part of Wikipedia sourcing that is not properly understood here, i'd like to you explain, every Wikipedia editor should know that when something is not croncrete it fails under the misinformation section, the two most important factors when sourcing material in a article is context, the way we interpret what they said from what is actually real, most articles about this group's music is written by writers who listen to their music and get their information from common belief, for example Blackpink's Lisa is heavily called as a "dancing machine" by the K-pop fans, you would find information like this in every article that talks about them whether it be high-prestige websites like Billboard or not, this is entertainment writing, they write how the media and fans community percieves them, the media views them as a group that is known for making female empowerment simply because most of their songs talk about how they are capable of achieving everything they want, it's interpreted, but this group has never had a song when they option to empower a female audience, they only had songs where they empower themselves and the sole topic is just themselves and their success, as they are women obviously this gets misunderstood as them directing this to a female audience, the problem is that they are actually not.

Blackpink's company YGE has never stated from their own words, in any report, or in any interview/ocassion that the group is marketed as "female empowerment group" neither the members themselves of this group, they in fact have been asked multiple times about this and they instead shift the topic or deviate from it just to avoid talking about girl power, in fact they only revitialized what their original concept this, they only talk about their colors as a group and each of the members personalities and what they have to give, they only reply on how the "black and pink" concept they had empowers them and their confidence, solidifying even more that they have a concept of self-empowerment not "female empowerment", the label never marketed this a group as such, neither did the girls, they only been called like this over and over again by the fans, the media and the k-pop community, because most of them want to believe this in order to attract a poder audience to their music cause they know most people are interested in the female empowerment demographic in pop culture, the only problem? That their company neither them have claimed to be a "female empowerment" group, they had only claimed to be a "self-empowerment" group according to what their "black and pink" concept stands for, Billboard saying that they are known for making female empowerment songs, is like Billboard attempting to say that they've sold 100 million records, nobody would believe they sold all that much but fans would still take it into account cause Billboard is a source with high reputation right? Most of these websites get all the artists information from fan websites, kpop websites, social media and even Wikipedia, you"ll be amazed of how many Wikipedia biographied and data are included into articles from high-prestige websites like Billboard, Entertainment Weekly, Rolling Stone, NME, etc etc in articles where they talk about these groups or any artist un general, i agree that there should be a talk page discussion when reverting things however i did not engage myself in conversation cause this time is a rule to revert any misleading information by facts in WP. Lightlylove (talk) 22:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Biographied* in general*

Expelling corrections. Lightlylove (talk) 22:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Biographies* Lightlylove (talk) 22:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for coming to discuss the edit.

First of all, have you actually read the billboard article I added as source? It is way more nuanced that you may think.

A few other things:

1) Even though I think you have a point about a lot of sources of K-pop material being very promotional oriented, they are still providing a reading into the songs. As you can see just before in the talk page, I have expressed my concerns as well about this very issue, the lead and the article being promotional.

But still, even though an article is almost exclusively "positive" removing informations is not how you make it more nuanced. What we can do is instead *adding* sources and writing that can make it interesting.

2) The company or the artists do not have to explain their music. Other people can analyze it and be a legitimate source. This is also how the lead presents that piece of information. This is valid for every art.

3) Regarding "self empowerment" it seems like you think that it means that the members are only "promoting themselves", like the real selves, and for that reason you agree on keeping the information. I'd say that a lot singers sing about characters that rely on their life, one way or another, and Teddy (the producer of Blackpink) said he writes thinking about the members life. Still that doesn't mean that it cannot empower others that will identify themselves in that song story/energy. Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 23:25, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

"K-pop girl group" in the lead

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User Flabshoe1 removed the addition of K-pop before girl group in the lead, under the reasoning that "South Korean already covers K-pop". This seems clearly false to me. South Korean does not covers Kpop at all. To avoid launching empty reversions I think it is better to discuss it here. Why a K-pop group shouldn't be called a... K-pop group? Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 15:01, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

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Teddy Park is missing

I've noticed that Teddy Park gets absolutelly zero mentions on the page. This has surprised me since I thought that his role in producing Blackpink would be so important that it would have given him a spot in the lead section. He has an extensive role even in their documentary, I don't have the time right now to start putting together sources to develop his role, I've just rapidly noticed this one that is already used: https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200702000667

These 10 lines used for a factual description of their musical style contrast heavily with the size of the page in general. Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 21:08, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 September 2024

Add Concord comma. 64.189.18.28 (talk) 19:28, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 19:43, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2024

When the Wiki talks about how the BLACKPINK members are all spokespeople for luxury brands, would you be able to add "Louis Vuitton" for Lisa? Thxxxxx. Cchung29 (talk) 01:31, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jamedeus (talk) 17:48, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

I have a question about the BLACKPINK activity

I haven't a information about JISOO and i need it. So, it's BLACKPINK together? And LISA is in the LOUDD? THANKS FOR INFORMATION 185.91.165.13 (talk) 06:25, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes they are still together as they renewed their group activities contract with YG Entertainment. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 06:34, 27 October 2024 (UTC)