Talk:Barn owl/Archive 1

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This page is a re-direst from the Barn owl Family page. Is there a page for the family itself? There is more to Tytonidae than just this one species! I'm prepared to do that page, if there aren't any objections.Sabine 17:50, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• I've started a Barn owl Family page at Barn owls, but it needs some narrative, and probably a better title to distinguish it from Barn Owl.Mwng 09:23, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
• Finally gotten round to filling in family info.Sabine's Sunbird 03:47, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Reversion

I think that a new contributor here might be a little confused about how to go about editing a page, and they deleted the taxobox, and removed almost all formatting. I reverted them because it was such a dramatic reduction in the aesthetic appeal, and also because it looks like some information was removed.

Still, there was probably a lot of salvagable content in the edit, which is why I invite editors to incorporate the text made in this edit into the article. Thanks. -Frazzydee|✍ 00:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

• It looks like all the formatting was removed, but I couldn't find any new material. Sabine's Sunbird 04:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Map

The map is at least slightly wrong, Barn Owls are definitely found in southern Ontario WilyD 15:42, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

• It also has them in New Caledonia, which is incorrect. Still, it's a reasonably accurate map. Sabine's Sunbird talk 17:04, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

• my mistek, they found there. Sabine's Sunbird talk 00:09, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

They are also in Çanakkale Turkey. I took their photo last night.

Bakbi (talk) 05:16, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

I know other sources which shows they are also in the parts of Turkey for some decades. Bakbi (talk) 05:17, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Because of this map I was not sure that what I saw was Barn Owl :) But it is definitely that one. Bakbi (talk) 05:19, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Photograph in taxobox

Perhaps one of the other colour photographs Snowman 14:46, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Barn Owls in general

Barn owls are such beautiful birds! And they're a very unique speicies with their 'moon faces'. I would love to have one for a pet, but that would be cruel. (under most circumstances)

I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you. In my opinion barn owls' 'moon faces' as you put it make they're heads look like some sort of heart-shaped plate.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.146.65.185 (talk • contribs).

Sorry to interrupt, but talk pages are not forums for general discussion. Please keep discourse related to improving the encyclopedia. Thanks. — Feezo (Talk) 23:53, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Barn Owl (5 votes) collaboration for December 2007

Nominated May 25, 2007;

Support:

1. MeegsC | Talk 13:23, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
2. Shrewpelt 01:40, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
3. Jimfbleak 07:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
4. Shyamal 07:14, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
5. Totnesmartin (talk) 12:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments:

• An intriguing global species with (currently) a pretty short article. MeegsC | Talk 13:23, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
• A very interesting species, with a few good pictures. Shrewpelt 01:40, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Article name

Should this species article be renamed "Common Barn Owl"?

• Strigidae redirects to True owl
• Tytonidae could then redirect to Barn owl
  

Other redirects would need to be corrected, too, but NBD. Thoughts?--Tombstone (talk) 17:24, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Oppose for now. The IUCN, Birdlife International, AOU, Gill and Wright's recommended Bird Names [1] all refer to the species as Barn Owl, and the family as Barn owls. This is a cosmopolitan species with a well recognised common name. Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:42, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Oppose as above Jimfbleak (talk) 06:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes I can agree with that, this article should be renamed "Common Barn Owl"

However, the article does cover that species Tyto Alba which is the Common Barn Owl. TheRedOwl76 (talk) 00:37, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Screech Owl

If this is the owl typically considered the "Screech Owl", then I think there should be a section on its place in folklore (Lillith, Romanian Shtriga/Strix) as a vampiric child-killer.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 07:17, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

The name screech owl is usually reserved for the Screech-owl -- folklore would be appropriate there.

Opossums v Possums

Recently an edit was reverted from Possums to Opossums however it should be remembered that the Barn Owl is also found outside North America and Possums could be a threat to this species in other parts of the world (ie Australia.....where Possums also exist) Aviceda talk 02:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Clarification: "possum" is an actual formal common name for certain marsupials in Australia, while in the U.S. it is a folksy nickname for the opossum, a different marsupial than the Australian types. I added "in the U.S." for opossum — there are surely many other predators all around the world... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.204.25.156 (talk) 05:50, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

True Hovering?

Food and Hunting section describes "hovering" -- is this true hovering (thought reserved to hummingbirds)?

I never knew that sometimes owls eat their mates and/or babies. That's soo sad!!!Gtallstar (talk) 23:04, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Barn Owls are slowling dropping to rare. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.47.214.81 (talk) 16:53, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Barn owl facts

The barn owl is a raptor and, like most owls is a bird of prey. Barn owls are also nocturnal , sleeping by day and hunting by night these owls can eat up to 3,000 rodents per year. Most Barn owls live in man-made structures such as barns -of course-, small plywood houses, attics, basements and tons more. A barn owls "satellite dish" face helps it hear even the smallest rustling of leaves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.67.35.175 (talk) 00:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

barn owls used for pest control

This article is very interesting, but as ever with blogs hosted by newspapers I don't know if it passes WP:RS. Can we use it? Is there another source? Sophie means wisdom (talk) 10:03, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Photos

At the moment there are 16 owl photos/videos on this site plus a photo of a skull. I would say that about 15 are redundant. The single photo in the introductory box should be enough. Comments? Mtpaley (talk) 23:55, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Move to Tyto alba

This page should really be put under the species name. It even states in the first paragraph that this species goes by a plethora of names due to its global distribution. How are other people supposed to find this page unless there is some consistency in the page title for living organisms? --108.32.175.11 (talk) 07:00, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Working towards GA

I am proposing to work on this article with a view to GAN. For a start, I would like to tabulate the subspecies section and treat it as in the article Red fox where you can click to show the table or it can remain hidden. Are there any objections to my doing this? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:25, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Old page history

Some old page history that used to be at the title "Barn owl" can now be found at Talk:Barn owl/Old history. Graham87 03:15, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Further reading

I would like to see the book Wesley the Owl—biologist Stacey O'Brien's book about keeping a barn owl as a pet for twenty years—included on this page in a 'Further reading' section. Since it's by a scientist, it's a very careful and compelling account that could be of interest to readers of this article. However, I am not sure if it would be considered inappropriate as an addition to this FA page, so I make the suggestion rather than an actual edit. (I am not connected to this author in any way, just someone who thought it was a good book.)

I don't know the book, but having looked at this page, I don't really think it is suitable for a "Further reading" section. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:03, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Completely insane migration recovery

The British Trust for Ornithology reports a ringed British specimen that seems to have made it to Afghanistan in 2005 (that's around 5800km so well over treble the largest movement distance on this page). Does anyone know anything about this? It seems unbelievable. Blythwood (talk) 12:28, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Looks like it may have got stuck in air transport pos during troop movements as its data is ..., 'found Dead 04-04-2006 Site Confidential (Afghanistan) Afghanistan 5,834km ESE 0y 9m 30d (Map)', sorry LVJ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.196.250.228 (talk) 20:53, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

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Subspecies list

The subspecies list is entirely empty, which seems odd for a featured article; has there been some kind of editing error? Gusworld (talk) 07:33, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Gusworld, it's been collapsed. I see a bar with "show" on it, which expands the table Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:56, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Erroneous 'class' in the taxonomy section

I've noticed that for some reason, the barn owl is listed as both being a bird and a reptile within the 'Scientific classification' on the right hand side. Would someone be able to remove the erroneous 'reptilia' reference on this page? I have no idea how to do it myself..

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.61.223 (talk) 19:36, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

About the urban animals category

Why are some users removing the urban animals category off the barn owl? Barn owls can easily adapt well with human settlements, as long as it's not disturbed much. Please re-add the urban animals category to the barn owl. 2601:206:8103:1BE0:246A:CCFF:3C5C:801A (talk) 08:58, 4 December 2016 (UTC)Dylan Hooton

Many wild animals can (and do) adapt with human settlements, yet this does not make them urban animals. Further, a few individual cases don't change general classification. Materialscientist (talk) 09:08, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

The barn owl is a bird that hunts in open countryside and not in towns. It sometimes nests in barns, but a barn is a building on a farm in a rural setting not an urban setting. The "Urban animals" category should be retained for animals that regularly live in towns, and the barn owl does not. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:53, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

That depends on where in the world you're talking about, Cwmhiraeth. They're very common in Oaxaca City Mexico (popn 300,000), for example. I've seen them right in the main square in the middle of town, amidst hundreds of noisy people, dogs, fireworks, church bells, etc. And I've seen them perched on roof edges elsewhere in the same city. MeegsC (talk) 13:40, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

For what it's worth, Howell and Webb's A Guide to the Birds of Mexico and Northern Central America lists its habitats as "open and semi-open country with scattered trees, and forest patches, old buildings, towns". That's on page 353. MeegsC (talk) 14:08, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

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