Talk:Badrinath Temple

The photo on article's page is copyrighted

I found the photo on the internet. You have to order a custom print so I don't think it is in the public domain. This link [1] is where you can order a custom print of it. Mattisse(talk) 14:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I have requested a copyright examination. Mattisse(talk) 15:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Matisse - other editors are also finally noticing all the photo copyright violations on Wikipedia. This one has been replaced with a public domain photo of Badrinath Temple. ॐ Priyanath 19:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Changes to article

Feel free to discuss changes that I've made to the article, and my explanation of them. With the recent split of Badrinath into Badrinath (town) and Badrinath temple, there were parts of the temple article that should have stayed in the Badrinath town article. I've moved those back to the Badrinath article. They are: the history and legends about Badrinath and the region around Badrinath. The temple article should be only about the temple, the temple complex and worship in the temple.

In addition, I've added a small section in the Badrinath article about the temple - because Badrinath temple is by far the most significant and visited feature in the town. Any significant feature in a town needs a section in that town's article about that feature. But Badrinath temple is still the main article about the temple. ॐ Priyanath 03:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Comments

• Inconsistency of spellings: Nar and Narayan v/s Nara and Narayana, Udhava, Kuber, mandap, Garbha grha etc.
• Use Sanskrit spellings for consistency: Saligramam -> Shaligram; Mahabharatha -> Mahabharata; Dharam -> Dharma
• Repetition: "The sanctum also houses images of Kuber (God of wealth), sage Narada, Udhava, Nar and Narayan. There are fifteen more images around the temple that are also worshipped. These include that of Nara & Narayana, Narasimha (the fourth incarnation of Vishnu), Lakshmi,Narada, Ganesha, Uddhava, Kubera, Garuda (the vehicle of Narayan), and Navadurga. Behind the temple, there is a shrine for Lakshmi Narasimhar" -> Nara, Narayan, Uddhava, Kubera, Narasimha are repeated. I doubt if there are 2 images of each.
• Architecture: Kunds are not part of the main temple. Also, Bhima shila, Vyas Gufa are about 4 kms away from the temple.
• Legend: last para does not have any legends, but is scriptural importance.
• WP:UNDUE about Panch Badri and Char Dham. Just mention part of the two circuits in short.
• Copyediting needed: river Ganga in mother earth -> on earth.
• Rawal is part of administration, not festivals. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 07:08, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot - i have made all the changes. In all the refs, Badrinath is always associated with Char Dham. I have trimmed the pilgrimage section, but not on the Char Dham portion considering the importance.Ssriram mt (talk) 11:43, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Ssriram mt

• there are still problems with this article about accuracy
  • (see repetition). I found no reference that there are two Narasimha icons: Narasimha and Lakshmi Narasimhar is the same icon. Also, there are no separate icons for Kubera, Uddhava outside the sanctum. Also, Ganesha is in the sanctum.
  • " Kalidasa, the 5th century poet described the Himalayan city of Alaka, a shortened form of Alakanda ... " Kubera's Alaka is never associated with Badrinath. This is not a description of Badrinath.

The mention of Alakananda is found in [2].

This definitely seems to a WP:FRINGE theory. Critical editions of Meghaduta [3] describe it as being on Mount Kailash. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:48, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

• • Rawalji (chief priest) is actually same as the head priest, or Rawal. Also repetition "On the religious side, there is a Rawalji (chief priest) and three other priests, namely Nayab Rawal, Dharmadhikari and Vedpathi" and "The Rawal is assisted by the Garhwali Dimri Pundits belonging to the Village Dimmer, Nayab Rawals, Dharmadikari, Vedapathi, a group of priests"

I got the info from the quoted ref and also at [4]

Temple websites will add honorifics like Sri, ji, Shriman, pujya etc. but we have to use what neutral references do. Also, the same information in many sources needs to be consolidated to avoid repetition. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:48, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

What i meant was the existence of two Rawals - the chief assisted by the Nayab. The "ji" has to be taken off.Ssriram mt (talk) 18:49, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

• Another problem is major aspects.
  • The Buddhist part of the temple history is not explained. [5] Also, allegations that Buddhists covered the site to Buddhism or threw the Badrinath icon into the waters where Adi Shankara found it. Some covered in Sen Gupta, Subhadra (2002). There are also counter-allegations that in fact that Badrinath is Buddha, not Vishnu [6].

Let me include it - got a few more refs [7]

• • The annual rituals of opening and closing of the temple, exact tithis of the same, the Badrinath icon moved to Jyotirmath.

--Redtigerxyz  Talk  20:18, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Let me check for refs.Ssriram mt (talk) 14:23, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot again - have included all except "Badrinath is Buddha". I couldn't see any online sources supporting it.Ssriram mt (talk) 02:07, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 11:15, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

I'll review this one. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:15, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

...in the form of Badrinarayan. What is that? It's redlinked, so an explanation would be helpful; else remove it.

...river Ganga: WP article is titled "Ganges", so best use that form please ("the river Ganges").

Architecture:

The Architecture section also covers location, statuary, and nearby hot springs; either move these, subdivide, or rename the section.

I am a bit reluctant about having a two line section for Tapt Kund. I have renamed the section.

Both Hindu gods (like Garuda) and saints (like Adi Shankara) are named without any description; it might be wise to say "the gods Lakshmi, Garuda, ..." and "the saints Adi Shankara, Vedanta Desika ..." at least on first mention.  Done ...during the Vedic period. Might be best to say when that was, and indeed to link it.  Done Why is the architecture seemingly Buddhist? This may need to be tied to the History section somehow.

History:

... is believed (repeatedly): Suggest replacing this with "According to Hindu legend", "Hindu believers hold that..." or "A traditional story asserts that ..." (or something similar).

 Done

Garwal: I think we should standardize on the spelling "Garhwal" as the most usual.

Please also check the spelling of all placenames throughout the article.

 Done - have linked as well.

Legend: I added 'lotus' to gloss padmasana.

Jujubi tree: please rename and link this to "jujube (Indian date) tree".

Pilgrimage:

...heads of various Mutts: what are these? Might need linking. Citation needed, too.

Festivals and religious practices:

I've linked a couple of religious rituals (aarti ...); I expect several others could also be linked.

Have linked the generic ones and left specific ones of the temple.

Overall:

Overall this is a well-written and properly structured article with no sign of OR, and once these minor issues are fixed I'll be happy to pass it. Good work. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:48, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks a lot for taking up the review - I will fix the issues.Ssriram mt (talk) 09:15, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for being slow on this - my net connection was weak all through the week. I have effected all the corrections - please review at your convenienceSsriram mt (talk) 16:56, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Well done. Congratulations on an interesting and worthy GA. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:42, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

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In discusion Please do not bring the topic that temples are of budhist style. Note Budhism is nothing but a cult of hindusim and Temple or hindusim were always there from ages. if the temple of Budha is sam that of hindu no one cares.He is also GOD and from originating from same religion HINDUSIM

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Removal of unverified Adinath claims

• Religious Freedom in Asia By Edward P. Lipton talks about the clashes between Jains and Hindus about installation of an Adinath icon in the predominantly Hindu pilgrimage spot of Badrinath
• Ritual Journeys in South Asia: Constellations and Contestations of Mobility ... edited by Christoph Bergmann, Jürgen Schaflechne says "The Jains at Badrinath are very cautious concerning the image in the Badrinath temple but various webpages one can read that it is actually Adinath who is worshipped as Vishnu in the temple". The alleged image of File:Badrinath idol whithout any flowers or decoration.jpg by the author "Jains" is not referenced to a WP:RS and is found on the net on such webpages, could not any RS to support the same. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 08:41, 10 July 2022 (UTC)