Talk:Badeshi

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Question

Why is Badeshi Critically Endangered? Abay1world (talk) 14:28, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Presumably because it's only spoken by three old men. If a language is not being passed on to the younger generation, then it's bound to become extinct. See Language endangerment. – Uanfala (talk) 14:50, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Language Classification

According to a YouTube comment here made by "Kamal H": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtS4AIMlSZ8

Gujari speakers have no problem understanding this language. Many other Gujaris agreed with this statement.

Other users stated this: "This is just one of the dardric family of languages spoken in remote valleys of northern Pakistan. This sounds mutually intelligible to other major dardric languages. It would be easy to teach to speakers of kohistani language. Which is in lo danger of extinction." Does this mean that this is a Dadric language? Blahhmosh (talk) 19:59, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Comments after youtube videos are not reliable sources (see WP:UGC); it's very difficult to imagine a situation where citing them would be acceptable. Language classifications, in particular, need to be backed up by academic research based on large amounts of data. Purported speaker perceptions of the intelligibility of a couple of phrases aren't anywhere near that. Also, Gujari is not Dardic, and the various branches of Dardic are not mutually intelligible. – Uanfala (talk) 21:59, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Badeshi is certainly an Indo-Aryan language. We can clearly see one diagnostic feature in heem "snowfall" < *ȷ́ʰimá-, where ancient *ȷ́ʰ became h as in Sanskrit himá-. The form jibe, probably meaning "tongue", is allied to Sanskrit jihvā́-, even undergoing the aspiration change -hv- > -vh- > -bh- > -b- as is usual in most New Indo-Aryan languages. If anything, thi meaning "do" even points to a relationship with Shina. @AryamanA could dig more on the classification of Badeshi. Kwékwlos (talk) 21:33, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Would require scholarly RS. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:52, 13 June 2024 (UTC)