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Use of blogs.

User:Conservative cheese ball, why should we should use a Self Published Source for the claim of that amount of losses of BMD-4? Please clarify?. Mr.User200 (talk) 23:19, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

1.it isn't a blog;

2.Self published articles like Oryx are allowed to be used:

"Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the subject matter, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications."-Wikipedia

3.Oryx, as previously mentioned before, is written by military experts.This source has been cited by many reputable sources such the British Financial Times, The Independent, The Economist and The Guardian or the Americans Wall Street Journal or Forbes.The author/Creator of this sources also works for Bellingcat. Conservative cheese ball (talk) 23:27, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

1)Its a blog. He changed the name of his site. http://spioenkop.blogspot.com => https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/

2) Are allowed in case they dont made extraordinary claims. With the exception of him there is no other report or source claiming that figure.Mr.User200 (talk) 23:31, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

If reliable sources are citing Oryx then it cant really be that extraordinary.The Source is cited by multiple mainstream sources as they believe its authenticity. Conservative cheese ball (talk) 23:47, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

If reliable Sources cites the Oryx it means if have a degree of notability, but don't means he become a Reliable Sorce in everything he comments or say. I still don't have enough reasons for inclusion. You need to provide at least another source that hint us about that amount of losses, or at least a similar number of the losses alleged. If not that edit will not be considered, since falls in the field of the extraordinary claim.Mr.User200 (talk) 01:43, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Mr.User200, it's real simple: when this editor gets unblocked, they can take it to WP:RSN. Conservative cheese ball, if I have to block you from editing this article after your block runs out, I will. In fact, if you keep on edit warring in other places as well, I can just block you from editing articles in the first place, and confine you to talk pages and discussion boards. But what you may not do is claiming you're right and then trying to push your way through. Drmies (talk) 21:18, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Ukraine as operator

According to Talk:FGM-148_Javelin, even if a country is to capture, train upon, and deploy foreign weaponry, they are still not considered an official 'operator' on Wikipedia. It really can't go one way on one article and another way on a different one. Please don't yell at me. Gamle Kvitrafn (talk) 17:15, 2 August 2022 (UTC)