Talk:Arbuthnot (schooner)
Latest comment: 15 years ago by David Underdown in topic Infobox and sources removed
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Speculation
editIt is speculated that this ship was named after Admiral Mariot Arbuthnot who bought his rank in the Navy. Possibly by providing this ship - against which he would have expected to be rewarded with a share of the plunder captured. There seems to be no way of corroborating this speculation. An expert on the period might be able to say whether it sounds likely. - Kittybrewster 16:57, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
- I've asked for a cite request, since it appears that this speculation has found its way into the article. Will Beback talk 23:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Infobox and sources removed
edit[1] Kittybrewster ☎ 00:03, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Self-published sites aren't considered reliable sources. Is there a reliable source for this material? Will Beback talk 00:13, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- London Gazette is not self-published. ditto The Diary of Simeon Perkins vol 1, 1766-1780, pub. 1948. etc Kittybrewster ☎ 09:03, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- London Gazette is most definitely a WP:RS, and the Diary of Simeon Perkins would also seem to meet the criteria as in cannot have been self-published. Samuel Pepys diary is a RS, is it not? The website referred to seems reliable enough too. Mjroots (talk) 21:58, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- If those are the sources then they should be cited directly rather than the website, though a "convenience link" may be added to it. Will Beback talk 04:26, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- I agree that book sources should be quoted using {{cite book}} if that is where the info is taken from. Mjroots (talk) 05:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- The original "No. 12286". The London Gazette. 9 April 1782., the original source seems to have misdated the notice. David Underdown (talk) 14:49, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- I agree that book sources should be quoted using {{cite book}} if that is where the info is taken from. Mjroots (talk) 05:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- If those are the sources then they should be cited directly rather than the website, though a "convenience link" may be added to it. Will Beback talk 04:26, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- London Gazette is most definitely a WP:RS, and the Diary of Simeon Perkins would also seem to meet the criteria as in cannot have been self-published. Samuel Pepys diary is a RS, is it not? The website referred to seems reliable enough too. Mjroots (talk) 21:58, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- London Gazette is not self-published. ditto The Diary of Simeon Perkins vol 1, 1766-1780, pub. 1948. etc Kittybrewster ☎ 09:03, 10 May 2009 (UTC)