Talk:Annalena Baerbock

Latest comment: 7 days ago by Zwerg Nase in topic Calumny

Calumny edit

Below, some German enemies of the Green Party and the German Foreign Minister write outhright slander or calumny. The accusal of a series of scandals and plagiarism without substantial proof belongs to this strategy. KristallograefIn (talk) 08:02, 2 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

As non-sensical as that BS is, might as well be bots... but yes, obviously Russian based misinformation strategies. Wikipedia needs to be on high alert about this. Zwerg Nase (talk) 08:07, 2 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

"Cobalt" / "kobold" mispronunciation relavant? edit

The article mentions AB's mispronunciation of cobalt as kobold, but the relevance of this incident remains obscure. I suggest to remove that sentence. Stardust canopy (talk) 11:10, 26 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

I agree, especially considering that no English-speaking sites covered the "news." If it had any sort of relevancy, at least some website would have mentioned it, but (at least from what I could google) no articles in English seem to have covered the matter. Felz1 (talk) 19:12, 14 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Removed it. Stardust canopy (talk) 13:22, 16 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

I have no idea what this was about, but I've been reading about "Kobolds" in German news everywhere and started to wonder. If this dies down again, I guess it's fine to keep it out - it's not particular encyclopedic, but at least in one person (me) it lead to confusion and an entry at Wikipedia would have been helpful 2A02:AA16:5680:B280:CE64:C95A:1662:967B (talk) 14:59, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
That specific incident isn't necessarily something that belong into Wikipedia on its own, but the slips of her tongue are somewhat legendary. In another occasion she said something about perishing Europe (verenden) instead of changing it (verändern). 88.76.132.251 (talk) 16:31, 14 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

"Evangelical church" misleading edit

In the USA, evangelical Christians are an important force in politics, and at first glance I was shocked to read that Annalena Baerbock identifies as evangelical. In fact, she probably belongs to the Lutheran Church like many people in Northern Germany. They are very moderate and many members have become secularized. If she is indeed a member of the Lutheran Church within the union "Evangelische Kirche in Deutschland", then it would be better to use this term and avoid "evangelical" in English. In German she is "evangelisch" and not "evangelikal", but this distinction does not exist in English, I think. For example, there is no risk that she might believe the Earth to be roughly ten thousand years old, though the current wording may suggest just that. Aecur (talk) 05:21, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Aecur: I understand your concern. However, the church itself calls itself "Evangelical Church in Germany" (see their English language website for reference), so per WP:COMMONNAME, I think it will have to stand as it is. Also, the wikilink provides context. Zwerg Nase (talk) 08:32, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
See Protestantism#Evangelical for the terms. I have slightly rewritten the sentence and hope it is clearer now. —Kusma (t·c) 08:58, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kusma: I can live with that. Zwerg Nase (talk) 09:40, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Kusma: Thanks a lot. This way it is clearer. Aecur (talk) 12:32, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
She frequently goes to church. I think it is wrong translation from ZEIT. She wanted to say, she stays in the church organisation. But this does not mean she goes frequently to the church service, also because she says, she is not believing. Regards--Buchbibliothek (talk) 16:34, 11 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Buchbibliothek: Indeed. I have tried to improve the translation of this part. Church membership/non-membership in the sense of Kirchensteuer is a rather German concept. —Kusma (talk) 17:07, 11 June 2021 (UTC)Reply
Exactly. thanks.--Buchbibliothek (talk) 17:28, 11 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

dissertation edit

According to German doctoral law, you cannot abandon a doctoral thesis. Once one has been admitted to the doctorate and withdraw it, you are considered to have failed.

2003:DA:9F36:8C28:21A:A0FF:FECC:2E9B (talk) 05:54, 21 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

There is no "German doctoral law", the rules are different even between different faculties at the same university. At all universities that I am aware of, if you don't submit a thesis, your Promotionsverfahren doesn't get started and so you can't fail it. —Kusma (t·c) 15:02, 21 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Parents edit

Jörg und Siliva Baerbock: "Im Falle der Baerbocks war es eine Wanderung über 334 Kilometer zu ihren Enkelkindern nach Potsdam." Silvia und Jörg Baerbock haben eine Reise nach Rom gewonnen, p. 8 --ZemanZorg (talk) 23:51, 13 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Candidate for the Greens edit

"She is also its candidate for Chancellor of Germany in the 2021 federal election, being considered the first such candidate for the Greens with a serious chance of winning this high office."

This is not quite correct. She is the first candidate for Chancellor of Germany that the Greens have ever presented. -- Discostu (talk) 14:55, 15 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

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gaffes edit

Where can we place gaffes? They are pretty frequent in Baerbock's speech and create seemingly relevant attention in articles, hashtags and memes.

"Critics frequently point out gaffes in Baerbock's speech such as 'the liberal enemies of democracy'.[1][2]" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.238.219.56 (talk) 14:40, 10 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ Sophie Garbe, Christoph Hickmann, Martin Hesse, Martin Knobbe, Christian Parth and Jonas Schaible (23 September 2021) How Germany's Green Party Went from Top to Flop Spiegel.
  2. ^ Matthew Karnitschnig (13 June 2021) German Greens in deep ‘Scheisse’ after leader’s stumbles Politico.

Young Global Leader link edit

The link to the YGL forum doesn't show her anymore. But I found a link from 30th June 2021 that shows her: https://web.archive.org/web/20210630053324/https://www.younggloballeaders.org/community/?q=baerbock This might need updating/correction.--88.71.161.95 (talk) 22:53, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply