Talk:Anita Blake

Book 13/14

Just explaining, but Danse Macabre is distributed as book 13, while Micah is a novella written between 12 & 13. Not 100% sure what to classify it as, but just change it if you know better. 124.178.17.85 04:47, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

That threw me at first too. However, Ms Hamilton numbers Micah as book 13 on her website [1] and has referred to The Harlequin as Anita book 15 on her blog[2]. So I think we can safely number Micah as 13, Danse as 14, and The Harlequin as 15. JenKilmer 21:12, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Release dates

The wiki you've set up here is quite impressive. What I would like to see is a mention of the release dates in this summary page. I do realize that you've taken a great deal of time to implement links to each of the books and I'm impressed with the thoroughness. It's just that it's somewhat time consuming to go through all the links if all I'm interested in are dates. JimH443 17:58, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

This article is about the fictional character specifically. If you want the dates in a series and you don't want to read each individual book article, then you can go to the author's article - Laurell K. Hamilton - and they should be listed there in chronological order. Silverthorn 09:48, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

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Character evolution

Is it just me, or has Anita Blake evolved over time from being a headstrong, independent character into being a far stronger and more complex, yet limited and dependent by various needs and binding ties? I only know the character from Wikipedia, but it looks like in later books she is not as much powerful per se as skilled in shuffling her conflicting loyalties, potentials-with-a-price and weaknesses against each other. Luis Dantas 06:40, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

• You'll get a lot of debate on this because as of NiC the character departs drastically from her previous incarnation. In the previous books there was a falling character development as Anita accepted that she was an outcast/monster and then gave up her humanity. Post-NiC the quality, style, and development largely seems to stop in favor of lots of sex. LKH is often accused of making Anita a Mary Sue or "writing fanfiction in her own universe." So its hard to say that the later books mark actual development.64.50.201.98 21:39, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Lots of Opinion - Text Removed

I removed the following text from the article from the Powers section, under "Ardeur":

"The whole idea of the arduer, and the way it is presented, is somewhat demeaning to the idea of rape and women in general. It is a new version of old harlequin romances, in which the female lead refuses to engage in sex with the male hero, but gives in after repeated attempts by the hero, and then enjoys it. Such an idea is demeaning toward rape and women, as it presents a mentality that a woman can be 'worn down', and if she enjoys it, then it must not be rape. Anita often tries to fight the ardeur, or refuse it, but in the end she gives in. Because she enjoys it, the idea of it being 'rape' is never questioned. However it is still force, and the ardeur shows readers that forcing a woman into sex is okay, if she enjoys it."

This is uncited, and possibly an opinion. While this is (apparently) an opinion noted elsewhere, it has nothing to do with an actual description of the power. It should at least be cited, copy edited for neutrality, and possibly added to a separate "Character Critique" section. MJ the Prophet (talk) 23:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC) wiki Anita Blake

• Unsourced opinions abound, and in an attempt to make this a descriptive article, I've moved such text here to the talk page. As noted above, information needs to be cited, neutral, and correctly placed. There is likely more than the items I removed below; in general, citations need to be applied liberally, particularly in the first portions of the article. It could probably use some reorganization as well. I may take up the task if no one else will. The removals are as follows:

• From section on name - "It should be noted that black hair and pale skin are also traits that the Irish share, and are not necessarily a definitive indicator of mixed descent. In all reality, while Anita is written as being mixed, she never actually shows the readers what it is truly like to grow up being 'mixed.' The books focus more on Anita's necromancy as being a cause of 'childhood trauma', and something that sets her apart as being different. The idea of Anita being mixed, is an afterthought."

• From section on character - "Anita has displayed various 'god-like' tendencies that are common within Mary Sues, including unexplainable and sudden power upgrades, physical beauty that is greater than all, the admiration of everyone, and the idea that anyone who doesn't like her or agree with her is wrong and considered to be a generally horrible person. Anita's negative traits have also grown within the latter books, overshadowing any positive attributes she once had. Strangely, her more unsavory traits are ignored, or justified in some bizarre fashion. Again, these are all common tendencies of a Mary Sue." I left some items that were more neutral, and simply added the appropriate Template:Fact

• From section on powers, specifically (again) ardeur - "The ardeur seems to be the biggest example of a deus ex machina, as there really has been no rational reason given for existance. It serves no purpose beyond allowing Anita to have sex with as many men as possible, and also to give her an endless supply of powers and plot devices." MJ the Prophet (talk) 14:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Questionable Changes made to Character Development and Character Name

These paragraphs added to the biography seem biased and opinionated. If kept, perhaps they should be rewritten from a neutral perspective and/or moved to a criticisms section?

The addition(s) in question: "Anita has displayed various 'god-like' tendancies that are common within Mary Sues, including unexplainable and sudden power upgrades, physical beauty that is greater then all, the admiration of everyone, and the idea that anyone who doesn't like her or agree with her is wrong and considered to be a generally horrible person. Anita's negative traits have also grown within the latter books, overshadowing any positive attributes she once had. Strangely, her more unsavory traits are ignored, or justified in some bizarre fashion. Again, these are all common tendancies of a Mary Sue."

and

" It should be noted that black hair and pale skin are also traits that the Irish share, and are not necessarily a definitive indicator of mixed descent. In all reality, while Anita is written as being mixed, she never actually shows the readers what it is truely like to grow up being 'mixed.' The books focus more on Anita's necromancy as being a cause of 'childhood trauma', and something that sets her apart as being different. The idea of Anita being mixed, is an afterthought."

Lomky 09:09, 30 March 2008 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lomky (talk • contribs)  

Abilities

What is "kenpo karate"?? kenpo is a chinese art and karate is japanese ... is it called kenpo karate in the books themselves?

41.133.224.225 (talk) 07:36, 29 March 2011 (UTC) borgrel

It's the exact same thing as vampires' ability to take significant amounts of time to move 6 feet, werewolves becoming sweaty after jogging 10 yards, characters shooting at something straight down a hallway but then taking cover behind two successive corners before getting to the shooters, and the literally hundreds of questions that end in periods... it's crappy editing. 208.127.80.210 (talk) 06:37, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

What's this "Ms. not Miss!" thing?!

One of Anita's catchphrases is "It's Ms., not Miss", generally all indignant and with some hostility. Considering that it's in conversation, not in writing, how the hell does that work?! Here in California, as well as in any other English-speaking locale I've ever been to, the pronunciation is the same and Ms. is understood to be an abbreviation for Miss... isn't it?? 208.127.80.210 (talk) 06:28, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Ms. is pronounced with a "z" sound. But this is not the place for such questions. I just noticed that the talk header template is missing and will add it. -- SpareSimian (talk) 05:49, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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