Talk:Anchor

Adding more information from the West Marine test

I participated in the West Marine 2006 test, as well as many other anchor tests, and have all of the raw data and graphs. If it is deemed appropriate, I can supply data regarding each individual anchor, the anchors compared, a Google Earth plot of where the test took place, or the strain graphs for each pull. I know this is too much for Wiki, but it could add to the factual information about each anchor style. I also have some information about holding power Vs. scope, but it is not conclusive.

Incidentally, I think that modern yachtsman's anchors should be divided as follows:

Danforth-type (or Lightweight Type); mention conventional steel, high strength steel, and aluminum Bruce-type (Bruce, Claw, Manta) Hinged Plow type (CQR) Non-hinged Plow type; further differentiate those with a plow style (Delta) and a scoop style (Rocna) Others (Bulwagga, XYZ, Box, etc.)

I think it would be interesting to describe how anchor designs are stabilized through ballasting (CQR), inherent design (Bruce, Bulwagga), "flatness" (Danforth), and roll-bar (Rocna, Manson, Wasi).

Cheers,

Chuck Hawley Chuckhawley (talk · contribs) 23:15, November 12 2006 (UTC)

"Warps", "Rode"

There is a section in here that is meaningless in reference to the rest of the article: it goes into great detail as to best rope to be used for "warps", but there is nothing else in the entire article explaining what a "warp" is. It talks about a "rode", and it mentions warping with a kedge anchor, but that's it. I thought perhaps the writer was referring to decent light ropes to use when you're warping, and was just being very unclear about it, but when I tried Googling it, I couldn't find any decent information on "anchor warps". All I find is a bunch of pages selling "anchor warps", or saying "you can use either warp or chain", and one article explaining how you can set an anchor by attaching a tethered buoy to "the warp": in all cases it appears they are referring to the rope which connects the boat to the anchor, which in the rest of the article is referred to as "the rode". I was confused enough by seeing what I'd always heard called the "anchor cable/chain" referred to as a "rode", but then we have this random section calling it a "warp" instead, without the slightest explanation (if indeed, that is what it means). As for "rode", is this really the official term for all vessels, or is this one of those cases where it's actually only used in some cases, but someone wrote the article like that was the term in ALL cases? I mean, is it really called a "rode" officially on a supertanker? Or is that a term usually limited to smaller vessels like sailing vessels and private boats? I've seen more than enough articles where a person familiar with only part of a topic tries to speak as if what he/she knew was representative of the entire subject, when in fact it only applied to a small part of it. I only ask because I've never heard the term before. I've heard of "anchor cables? and "anchor chains", but never a "rode". I read a lot of Patrick O'Brian, and he's famous for being extremely detailed and accurate in his terminology and technology when writing about Naploleonic-era Royal Navy sailing vessels, and he has never used the term "rode" to describe the anchor cable. They always say "cable thick and dry for weighing", etc. He talks about "fouling the anchor cable", etc. I took it upon myself to at least add "(commonly known as an anchor cable or anchor chain)" to make it a little clearer to people, but it would be nice if someone who knows about these things a bit better could state clearly whether or not "rode" is the technical term for all vessels, or if it's more commonly used in smaller vessels, and if "cable" and "chain" are mere popular mis-terminology, or what. AnnaGoFast (talk) 22:04, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

I have to agree with AnnaGoFast that the article is confusing. I'm unsure but I believe that "rode" is US terminology for Anchor Warp. (Careful with the term warp - there also also mooring warps.) But, where I come from, the most common term among recreational sailors is neither - it's anchor line. And I'm also unclear whether, if rope + chain is used, these terms refer only to the rope or to the chain as well. Is there an expert in the house? If not I think the current article sufficiently confusing that I may have at it based upon such understanding as I have. Tony999 (talk) 10:36, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
English is not my primary language but anchor rode seem to be consistent for connection line between anchor and ship (or boat etc.), both in UK, Australian and US texts about this matter. It includes connections by chain, wire, and rope, or combination.
I came here looking for inventor - and time of invention - of a folding anchor type, the one that opens and closes like umbrella, and is pretty common with small boats, because it can be stored easily. I didn't find that info (neither here, nor else), yet.
But the reason for my writing here is that you mention nylon as the material for the rope of the rode. That was in fact usual for last half for 20. century, but it seems lately - after y.2000 - data about several accidents got consolidated, and it was found that nylon rode can fail even at forces significantly below safe workload level (which itself is less then half tested minimal breaking force) because of deterioration of rope's core because of overheating (even submerged in water) when continuously contracting and extending (e.g. in waves). Less elastic materials seem to be more suitable, because deformations are proportionally smaller per length so less heath gets generated in same length of rope, and so generation of heath is less concentrated, and can successfully be dissipated without overheating damage of rope core (as far as we currently know).
Good reference on that would be Steve Dashew, "The Right Rode" (pdf) - Marjan Tomkiewicz --188.230.129.79 (talk) 05:15, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

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Proposed merge with content from Stockless anchor

Hi, a user has created a new article Stockless anchor. I suggest that content there should be merged into the relevant section in this article. Polyamorph (talk) 20:40, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Honestly, this seems to work in either shape. Merge would be fine IMO, but there's enough material for a separate treatment if so desired. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:13, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Agree with Elmidae. I am more concerned about the lack of references! --ClemRutter (talk) 13:46, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Having just come across this article I think it is best to keep the stockless anchor article. It flows much better this way. Dbsseven (talk) 17:26, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

OK. Considering these comments, I will remove the merge tags. Cheers Polyamorph (talk) 19:26, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

"Anatomy" of the anchor?

The article keeps talking about things like the anchor's stock, but never mentions what that is. Maybe some basic reference on what each part is called could be useful to those with no nautical kowledge?78.30.17.255 (talk) 12:40, 23 June 2019 (UTC)