Talk:American Buff

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Latest comment: 8 years ago by Fuhghettaboutit in topic Requested move 10 November 2015

Requested move 10 November 2015 edit

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The result of the proposal was move per request. Agreed that this is a borderline technical request given WP:NCFAUNA, the large-scale discussion and move of bird article titles to lowercase last year and the many discussions of breed articles like those below since then.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:53, 21 November 2015 (UTC)Reply


– Consistency with the other animal breed articles, including the other pigeon ones: We're capitalizing the formal breed name (see list here and similar sources), not the species that follows it, which is simply a natural disambiguation (sources that capitalize it seem to do so only as a matter of title case in headings, or are bloggy and unreliable). This is a routine move for consistency with the other poultry articles, e.g. African goose, Alsatian goose, Chinese goose, Emden goose, Pomeranian goose, Scania goose, Toulouse goose, Vištinės goose; and Australian Game fowl, Phoenix chicken, Jersey Buff turkey, etc., etc.; and consistent with Siamese cat, Abaza goat, English Leicester sheep, Kasaragod Dwarf cattle, and hundreds of other animal breed articles. Pretty much all the other animal breed articles were cleaned up in 2014, these are just some stragglers.

Notes:

  • Per WP:NATDIS policy and numerous 2014–2015 RMs (e.g. Talk:Corsican cattle#Requested moves in 2014, though the convention seems to have been established with Talk:Alentejana cattle#Requested move in 2011), natural not parenthetic disambiguation is used.
  • Names that can't reasonably be ambiguous are usually left without any species at the end, e.g. Beltex, Beefalo, Ocicat.
  • A tiny handful of breeds have the species name capitalized as a formal part of the breed name in virtually all sources, because their names are too confusing without it, and they are virtually never referred to without it; e.g. American Quarter Horse (not a US coin) and Norwegian Forest Cat (not a Scandinavian woodland); as far as I can determine none of those listed for renaming here qualify.
  • The case of Danish landrace goose is not listed here and retains a lower-case "l" because it is not a breed, but an actual landrace, lower cased per MOS:LIFE like any other general classification of animals.
  • WP is (for better or worse) treating formal names of standardized breeds as [if] proper names, and this routine RM is not the place to revisit that. This is a consistency move only.
  • MOS:LIFE requires that the alternative-case version be redirected to the actual article, and this mostly has not been happening with poultry articles. This move will auto-fix this for the ones listed here.
  • This is a routine enough move request I would have listed it in WP:RM#Technical moves, but {{RMassist}} does not support multiple articles. I generally do not make moves like this manually because of previous WP:DRAMA about doing so, but the prior RMs have been very consistent in favoring the type of move proposed here.

 — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  13:44, 10 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

  • Support, what's good for the goose is good for the gander (lower cased). But let's leave Golden Goose as it is. Honk. Randy Kryn 18:46, 10 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
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