Talk:Alia Atreides

Access to Male Ancestral Memories

It is an interesting question, that I didn't find an answer in book, is how did it possible that Alia got possessed by Baron, who was male, while females only has access to the memories and egos of their female ancestors. It seems that only Paul and Leto II did have access to male ancestors, but not Alia. Could anyone think of any explanation, or find some info that could be incorporated into the article? Zigmar 01:56, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe she does have access to both lines, which is a product of being the Kwisatz Haderach (or a relative, since I don't believe it's established that Alia is a KH). I'll do a little research into the books for appropriate quotes ... TAnthony 05:42, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

As far as I remember Kwisatz Haderach is always a male, and I think it was mentioned several times at the books. Only males are potentially able to access both lines, while their are unable physically/mentally, that was the whole point if BG breeding program - to bread a male show could stand the spice agony, and therefore gather access to both lines and to became Kwisatz Haderach. I think, in contrast, Alia was only a Reverend Mother as her mother was. But I might be wrong of course. :) Zigmar 14:19, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

P.S. In the Bene Gesserit article I've found and interesting remark:

This had a profound effect on the unborn Alia, who was consequently born a full Reverend Mother with the complete Other Memory of both the male and female ancestors in her bloodline.

Wondering where this info comes from. Zigmar 14:32, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Did Alia have access to any other male memories other than the Baron? I only recall the Baron as an other memory in the books. If it was only the Baron, my personal assumption about the answer here would be the Baron's different sexual preferences from what other ancestors had (the BG, after all, had to go extra lengths with the Baron in order to breed Jessica, Alia's mother). — al-Shimoni (talk) 01:03, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Alia's Appearance

were there any hints about her appearance in the books? 82.131.84.5 22:58, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I've added the first description of an adult Alia from Dune Messiah. TAnthony 04:43, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

pronunciation of her surname

This doesn't match the pronunciation given for other names such as "House Atreides" and "Leto Atreides", in which there are three syllables - here there are four. Of course the pronunciation of this pseudo-Greek name in English is moot, but I feel it should at least be consistent in Wikipedia articles dealing with the topic. I could also imagine the second syllable rhyming with "tide" ("a-TRY-dees", or even "a-TRY-dess"), but here we get a choice between "a-TRAY-dees" and "a-TRAY-i-dees". Did Herbert ever "officially" indicate how all these names - mostly ungrammatical pseudo-borrowings from Latin, Arabic and so on - were supposed to be pronounced? And what happened in the Lynch film, where they had to be spoken out loud?95.97.230.36 (talk) 00:02, 19 March 2017 (UTC)