Talk:Alexander Windsor, Earl of Ulster

Why is he not a prince?

As a male descendant of both a king and a prince, why does he not have the title Prince? There's obviously a good reason for this, so perhaps it should be mentioned in the article. 64.38.226.82 (talk) 14:17, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Common knowledge. By Letters patent only children or grandchildren through male-line of a British monarch and the Prince of Wales are "Prince/Princess". Since he is a great-grandchild of King George V he is not eligible to be a Prince but merely a Lord. Since he is the eldest child of the Duke of Gloucester, he may use one of the Duke's Subsidiary titles as courtesy title, i.e. "Earl of Ulster". Mr. D. E. Mophon (talk) 16:18, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Later career

As he's a one-time regular soldier, I think it's worth noting what date he was demobbed, and what exactly is 'Transnational Crisis Project' and his current role in it. 86.171.217.68 (talk) 14:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

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Crest

This should be titled coat of arms of.... see Crest_(heraldry) for why this isn't a crest. It may break other links to just rename. Without checking further it also shows an escutcheon of pretence. I assume we have checked that is correct?Garlicplanting (talk) 10:21, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

I don't know that we can trust the image at all. There is no source or citation for Alexander bearing arms of that nature (or any arms, for that matter). Robin S. Taylor (talk) 18:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

I'm not too worried about the arms, they are those granted to his father in '62. We could have an argument about a cadency label as the eldest son, but its not open to confusion with that helm and they are his to inherit by law of arms eventually. His wife seems to have one sister and no brothers (peerage.com) so could be a heraldic heiress but I can't quickly find anything to say so. Garlicplanting (talk) 10:30, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

I understand that the Duchess of Gloucester is an heraldic heiress, but in that case Alexander's arms ought to include hers (quartered with his father's). Also, the inescutcheon appears to show the Booth arms (argent, three boars' heads erased and erect sable). Is that a reference to his wife Claire Booth? Do we know her armorial status? I'm just concerned about the inclusion of an emblazonment for which we have no citation. In fact, I've never been able to find any source for what arms are used by the non-royal Windsors, or even if they are armigerous at all, so we have no precedent from which to make an educated guess. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 14:53, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Her arms, if any, would be foreign surely so probably not quartered by modern custom. So the Arms issue is fairly simple. Princes are all individually granted arms with different labels. Those become permanent parts of the arms unlike normal labels. They are then inherited normally by any non prince by the law of arms. So all the male line non-prince windsors have the appropriate paternal arms (technically with their own labels) + can have Escutcheon of pretence etc. The DoG has a CoA granted so the EofU will inherit those. You are correct that the escutcheon of pretence is Booth and indicated a heraldic heiress. I can't find anything to tell me if her branch of the family actually has those arms though.Garlicplanting (talk) 09:22, 21 October 2018 (UTC)