Talk:Alexa Nikolas

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This article has been kept following this VFD debate. Sjakkalle (Check!) 10:03, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Afterall

Is the place where she lives on Zoey101 really a spaceship? This specific show about sister Jamie Lynn and how they had come together to keep trying at the game if 'Life.' Zoey was room 101, and so how do you think fights start up. If Lexis had come about a different age, then she probably will make a theatrical comeback in the late future. That school is obviously some chantey knock off and give warm thoughts to the spectater that maybe she really does live in Spears' room. You decide.

Podcasts

In several podcasts, she mentions that she grew up in Chicago and moved to Los Angeles as a child. Can we add this and source the podcasts here? 2600:100C:A218:92ED:3883:FBAE:32AC:286 (talk) 04:02, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Would these be considered reliable sources? 2600:100C:A211:7F18:C9B7:A8C5:FEE0:4AD6 (talk) 04:08, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Podcasts are a medium, so they're not automatically considered reliable or unreliable. It all depends on the individual podcast. On Wikipedia, we're looking for reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. When it comes to content about living persons, those sources should be of exceptional quality. TMZ, in particular, has a pretty poor reputation on Wikipedia (and elsewhere), so it really shouldn't be used for claims like these. There's also a concern about undue weight of the claims, especially if they're only made by unreliable sources. In short, if her former locations aren't widely covered by reliable, secondary sources, that's a good sign that we shouldn't be mentioning them on Wikipedia.

You can read more about reliable and unreliable sources Wikipedia:Reliable sources (for general information), Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources (for details on specific sources), and Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard (a noticeboard to ask questions about sources). Woodroar (talk) 12:45, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

The source is an interview hosted by TMZ so the ultimate source is Nikolas herself for any information derived from what she states directly. WP:ABOUTSELF applies here. Of the 5 points listed in ABOUTSELF, #1, self-serving, might be the only issue but that depends on the information she says about herself. Basic biological information shouldn't be an issue. We would not and should not be using anything TMZ stated, just the spoken words from her. See also WP:TMZ - its use is situational and not prohibited. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Sounds very fair to me. 2600:100C:A20C:6C0F:7091:3CCC:3E1C:6A00 (talk) 04:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Don't just put in raw links, use Template:Cite AV media and specific the timestamp where the info is stated. Do not expect reviewers to watch the whole video to verify the info was in it and matches what was added to the article. See also WP:RSPYT. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Infobox image

We don't have a recent image that shows her current appearance. We have an image in the article that shows what a character she portrayed as a child 19 years ago looks like in the career section of the article. That image is not appropriate for the infobox as it is not a picture of her natural appearance at age 13, it is a picture of a actor in character made up and dressed as that character and doesn't reflect her natural appearance at that age. Also she is 13 in that image not her current 32, and as she is still notably active a more recent image of her adult appearance should be there. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:50, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

First off, the image is not in the infobox, it is further down in the "Career" section. Second, any new image would have to comply with the WP:NFCC policy. If you think you can find something that does comply, feel free to upload. Third, and having said all that, I would not be opposed to the removal of the current image on the grounds of "its kinda creepy." The subject has made allegations of sexual misconduct that happened when she was a child actor at Nickelodeon. using an image from the time period of the abuse is IMO a bit inappropriate. Zaathras (talk) 21:56, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

The issue is an infobox image in the |image= attribute and the many attempts to move the current career section character image to the infobox which I oppose for the reasons given. I have no problems with the character image in the career section where it is appropriate in context of that section as it illustrates her in an acting role. Yes free-use images are sometimes hard to get, the one in the career section is properly licensed which is why we have it. It is always presumed we can get a free-use image for a living person, until we do get a current one showing her as an adult, we shouldn't have an image in the infobox. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:20, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Activism

I don't have much to say here. And Alexa Nikolas herself would be about as upset as I am that her page is being targeted for removing the activist label from her page. The edit reversal harassment ends now. If she's not an activist, what do you call a person/group who protests at corporate office buildings and hosts a podcast dedicated to stopping the abuse of actors/musicians at the hands of people of power? Various sources (which you ignore) would say she's an activist, because that's what she's doing. Marino13 (talk) 01:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

1. Stop the whinge. 2. Stop taking this personally. 3. Provide the sources. Zaathras (talk) 04:25, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Unrelated to the matter, but here is one source. It confirms which network aired the docuseries Quiet on Set. And I'm having my edit reversed for putting in the correct channel. Marino13 (talk) 21:40, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

That source does not mention activism in any fashion. You are likely being reverted because you are trolling other editors via snarky edit summaries. I suggest you stop that, and limit your summaries solely to the text you are adding or removing. Zaathras (talk) 21:44, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

That's why I said unrelated. Remind Magical Golden Whip that the docuseries did air on Investigation Discovery, and not Discovery Channel. Marino13 (talk) 01:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

In order for us to call Alexa Nikolas an activist in wikivoice, the label should be widely used by reliable, independent, secondary sources. I mean, it's not uncommon for celebrities to get involved in social or political issues, but that doesn't automatically make them an activist. Marino13, if you're aware of such sources, please bring them here—but keep in mind that they need to directly and explicitly call her an activist. Nothing short of that will suffice here. Woodroar (talk) 22:10, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

TMZ probably has sources related to Alexa and her movement. But I'm hesitant to use them as a reference because of what's real and fake. Marino13 (talk) 01:01, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Here’s a source from the LA Times.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2023-11-21/diddy-la-reid-neil-portnow-metoo-alexa-nikolas-eat-predators 2600:100C:A20C:6C0F:7D72:EBCA:6771:58DA (talk) 23:03, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. You've been most helpful, and I don't say that a lot here. Marino13 (talk) 23:23, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Are there any more sources? We should really have several. (As I said earlier, the label should be widely used by reliable, independent, secondary sources.) Woodroar (talk) 02:16, 14 June 2024 (UTC)