Talk:Alaska pollock as food

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 2A01:4B00:D011:A400:E15A:C7A0:6763:1BB7 in topic Bias?

Overlink reduction edit

@Ityoppyawit: We seem to be in disagreement about how to edit Alaska pollock as food, in particular the issue of following policy on WP:OVERLINK. You have re-instated a whole bunch of links that I had taken the time to remove in pursuit of my understanding of this policy. I won't do that again without having some discussion with you about what sort of treatment is appropriate, since there is an interpretation of the guidance of that policy which might permit linking items multiple times.

My main concern with this article is that the entries in the section labeled Dishes read too much like a menu or recipes, contrary to the policy of WP:NOTHOWTO #1. I personally found the list fascinating, but I have doubts about whether it is within policy to keep it.

The other point of disagreement is over the idea of "disambiguation". For instance, instead of linking to Korean radish multiple times, it might be better to simply write mu (Korean radish) in all the places that currently come out looking like "radish" in blue, with just the first instance linked. jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 08:47, 10 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Jmcgnh: First of all, thank you for the copy-editing. I have just changed "[[Korean radish|radish]]" into "mu (radish)" as you suggested. I kept "[[Allium fistulosum|scallion]]" since at least two types of Allium is called "scallions" in Korean cuisine context alone. (They are A. fistulosum and A. × wakegi.) --Ityoppyawit (talk) 11:47, 10 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Copy edit summmary edit

Hello friends!

I have performed a brief copy edit of this article, and changed several things.

  • Removed subjective, biased, and potentially controversial wording.
  • Grammar corrections
  • Since there is no citation, and export to South Korea had just been mentioned, I see no reason to mention distribution to Europe and North America specifically.
  • An explanation of surimi should be left to the surimi page, which, as it happen, does a rather decent job of explaining it. In some cases (as in quick explanations of dishes in later sections) it is reasonable to have quick reference information such as '(the roe)' or '(the intestines)', but in this case it is outside the scope of this page and unnecessary. I let 'spicy' slip on Dongtae, but that's kinda whatever... 'Six of one, dozen of the other' I think the phrase goes...
  • In much the same way, things relating to foreign languages I pretty much skimmed right past.
  • Probably added some citation-request tags.
  • Sometimes I used synonyms to reduce repetition.
  • I didn't mess with the formatting of any images or info-boxes or whatever.
  • In many cases, the word 'myeongate' overshadowed the noun-phrase 'Alaska pollock.' Readers who are symbolically familiar with the words 'Alaska' and 'pollock' are likely to become confused if the prior is used over the latter; to classify them as two separate things, when they are not. For this reason, I have changed many uses of the word 'myenogate' to the noun-phrase 'Alaska pollock.' Yes, I realize it was being used primarily (maybe only) in the Korea section, but cultural nomenclature does not outweigh the importance of clarity and comprehensibility. Yeah. Fight me, bro.
  • Wikipedia is not necessarily a translator. In places where translations were unnecessary or outside the scope of the article, I removed them.
  • I used 'which is' because they were aforementioned.

Three caveats:

  • What is the deal with the pollock/cod roe quote? According to the Alaska pollock page, they are a type of cod, so... yeah I don't know anything about fish.
  • The original version said it is the national fish of 'Korea.' The Korea article says it's a historical country, so its status as a national fish would need to be past-tense. I went to the cited article, and the website (as nearly as I can tell) doesn't seem to specify North or South, even in its company information pages. Since I clearly have no idea what is going on here, I have left the phrasing unchanged; awaiting the ecstatic touch of a subject expert.
  • I forgot what the third was.

Ok bye.

TheLoneDeranger (talk) 07:09, 3 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

Bias? edit

Reading some of this article it’s clear it’s swayed towards the fish industry 2A01:4B00:D011:A400:E15A:C7A0:6763:1BB7 (talk) 16:10, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply