Talk:African nationalism

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"Communist Propaganda"

This section is extremely biased and must be reworked. Will try to work on it if I get the chance. --Agent of the Reds 00:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

This article needs a lot more attention

I myself have begun some full-scale (and long-overdue) work on this article, but my knowledge is drastically limited to logic and a few sparse facts. Please help me! Robertson-Glasgow 15:22, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll get on it again shortly. Robertson-Glasgow 14:45, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation

I visited this page a few hours ago to repair two links to a disabiguation page: "Britain." Information on this project is located here. Wikipedia articles are not supposed to link to disambiguation pages. They're supposed to link to relevant articles. Shortly thereafter, my edits were reverted as part of a subsequent large edit. Continuing to link this article to "Britain" will only result in it continuing to appear as a page in need of correction, which will bring me and other editors here to repair it.

Please don't create links to disambiguation pages.

--Steven J. Anderson 01:07, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Dude, I've absolutely no idea as to what you're trying to say there.Robertson-Glasgow 15:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

He's trying to be helpful, no need for that tone.. Anyway: short and simple, he's saying that there shouldn't be links going to Britain; they should go to United Kingdom instead.—♦♦ SʘʘTHING^(Я) 17:07, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Apologies for my having taken so very long to issue a suitable rejoinder to that priggish bubble of self-righteous thought; alas, I hadn't noticed it. However, short of being vitriolic or slanderous, I think that I've every right to use whatever tone I see fit, thank you very much. Robertson-Glasgow 14:43, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

This is an Essay

This has be a quite pov essay for almost two years. By most guidelines this should be removed entirely. Rather than delete %95 of it, I will comment it out. Parts that conform to a neutral tone and are referenced can be reinserted. T L Miles (talk) 00:29, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

African Nationalism in South Africa emerged as a response to discrimination and segregation against Black People in the early 1900s

Chwayita Mkhabelana (talk) 12:07, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Is this a distinct topic?

I've searched around and added a couple of references here, but scholarly sources seem to use African nationalism as a term synonymous with Pan-Africanism, except where it means "nationalism which happens to occur somewhere on the African continent" -- which is too amorphous a concept to capture in an article. I'm thinking maybe this article would be better deleted and its salvageable content merged into Pan-Africanism. Thoughts? Alexbrn ^{talk|contribs|COI} 04:50, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

I would support a merge. Irondome (talk) 18:36, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

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Article Evaluation

The article assigned to us (Team 1) is African nationalism. We have noticed that the article needs to be more detailed when it comes to the key terms and the movements or famous peoples that have influenced or accelerated "African nationalism". The article defines vaguely the term at stake here which makes it difficult to grasp.

Each fact is referenced with an appropriate, reliable reference and the article seems neutral, as no viewpoint is over-represented nor underrepresented. Actually, the author(s) did not represent any particular view-point, we are just given a general definition and historical background of the notion of African nationalism.

We have tested the link and they lead us to other Wikipedia pages, there is no journal/peer review article listed as a citation which might undermine the consistency of the article.

We haven't noticed any information out of date. However, what strikes us is that the author(s) mentioned that African nationalism has been influenced by the Back to Africa movement of African American and Afro-Caribbean intellectuals. We are not quite sure about the certitude of that information but we will definitely go deeper into that.

Spokentruth (talk) 06:47, 13 February 2017 (UTC)Team 1Spokentruth (talk) 06:47, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Comparative approach needed

The article starts off very strong, but there needs to be a compare and contrast component to this. The reason is because African Nationalism is more of an theoretical idea instead of concrete. As mentioned by other editors, Pan-African-ism and African nationalism are intertwined together, and one must take into consideration that all current African states had their own unique experiences under colonial rule, and thus the political structure of each country is modeled based off of their separate experiences. Yet the article is coming off pretty well. Keep up the good work! — Preceding unsigned comment added by WMKnowledge Guy (talk • contribs) 01:46, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Davidson and Eurocentric POV

In the history section, the article states:

The early African nationalists were elitist and believed in the supremacy of Western culture but sought a greater role for themselves in political decision-making. They rejected African traditional religions and tribalism as "primitive" and embraced western ideas of Christianity, modernity, and the nation state.

Davidson (1978) pages 166-7 is cited.

The very essence of African nationalism, and all notable African nationalist I know reject the "supremacy of western culture" and "western ideas." In fact, it would be a contradiction to claim African nationalism then view western culture and ideas as supreme over African culture and ideas, because the very root of African nationalism as we know it today stems from the colonial era - when African nationalists were fighting against European colonialism and ideology i.e. white dominance over others and imperialism. This is a poorly written article full of POV. I'll be tagging it. [Unsigned]

I think this might be a case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. You are certainly right that the article is poor and its coverage clearly incomplete. You have not raised any sources to support your contention that it is biased though. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that early African nationalists embraced aspects of European culture while rejecting colonial rule. According to the Oxford Handbook of the History of Nationalism (p.67), for example, "Most members of the African elites espoused European ideas of progress and development. [...] Orientated towards Western concepts of democracy, political organization, national self-determination, and economic growth, the set as their goals the ending of colonial rule and the creation of nation states." This would be true of people like J. E. Casely Hayford, Eyo Ita, or Herbert Macaulay. Another classic example would be Léopold Sédar Senghor. Whether you "know" these people is irrelevant.—Brigade Piron (talk) 20:51, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

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