Talk:Adam lay ybounden

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Rob~enwiki in topic Version used for 9 Lessons and Carols


Reqmidi edit

Okay - who is the MIDI file version by? Is this really the Ord version? I don't recognise it at all.

Hmm, you're right actually, it's definitely not any of the versions mentioned on the page. I was half expecting it to be one of the earlier public domain versions by Ireland or Warlock, but it's neither of those... -- Rob (talk) 19:21, 16 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
I've had a look around, it appears to be a 1998(?) setting by William Smarte. A vocal recording is available at [1]. I hadn't heard of this version before, though. It sounds a bit like a strange hybrid of several other versions! -- Rob (talk) 19:35, 16 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
I was looking around for a free recording of Ord's setting. I found this performance on YouTube which is licensed under Creative Commons; sadly the composition is dated at 1957 so it remains under copyright probably until at least 2036 (75 years after Ord's death). Sadly we can't include any compositions written after 1923.Cnbrb (talk) 12:54, 2 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
Being that it's a 15th century composition, seems like you should be able to find a public domain version somewhere. I don't know of any copyrights that last over 300 years. Even the Warlock setting in public domain by now -- original copyright date 1922. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.253 (talk) 22:44, 25 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

The Word Mown/Moun edit

From the best of my research the word 'mown' is a form of the verb 'may' in modern English. The OED says 'mowe' is the 15th century ME form. Link: http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/115287?rskey=5wiF4W&result=1&isAdvanced=false#eid I don't think this is 100% proof, so I am only pasting it here - it is the only word that I couldn't figure out in my study of this song.


Iæfai (talk) 21:59, 7 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

It would certainly fit in the context. Rob (talk) 07:19, 8 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Idiotbox of all idiotboxes edit

Not that I feel I have to justify my revert of a truly shocking infobox, I felt I had to point out that this was one of the most ridiculous infoboxes I have seen in a while. I'll break down the box, below:

  1. No need to give "Adam lay ybounden" at the top of the box. It's at the top of the article and also opens it, too;
  2. "English", in the language field, is 14 words into the lead section. Is it too much to ask someone to have to read 14 words?
  3. "c.1400 is less than 50 words from the start of the lead. Again, sorry to all those cheating in pub quizzes, but you might have to read 40-odd words to find this out. CassiantoTalk 18:30, 28 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Version used for 9 Lessons and Carols edit

What is the justification for "Boris Ord's 1957 setting is probably the best-known version as a result of its traditional performance following the First Lesson at the annual Festival of Nine Lessons and Carols at the chapel of King's College, Cambridge"?

While it appear to be true that the 2003 performance used Ord's music, most version of 9 Lessons and Carols at King's College, Cambridge, that I have heard (including the 2022 performance today) use the Warlock music. Warlock's music is also used for the version recorded by the Deller Consort. Jpg1954 (talk) 06:47, 25 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Looking at the archive on the King's website for the last 20 or so years, and BBC Genome it seems out of the 22 listings Ord has 9, Warlock 5 and Ledger 2. Looking back even further at genome, it looks like Ord's version tends to appear with most regularity.
2000: Warlock
2001: Ord
2002: Warlock
2003: Ord
2004: Warlock
2005: Ord
2006: Warlock
2007: Ord
2008: Ord
2009: Ledger
2010: Ord
2011: Ord
2012: Christopher Brown
2013: Not featured
2014: Ledger
2015: Ord
2016: Gaynor Howard
2017: Not featured
2018: Ord
2019: Not featured
2020: Not featured
2021: Not featured
2022: Warlock

Rob (talk) 09:11, 27 December 2022 (UTC)Reply