Talk:8th Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada

Tables

Hey, good job on the article. I noticed you created a lot of articles on politics in Ukraine such as electoral districts. I was thinking to do it as well. It is a lot of work though... DDima, I just wanted to comment on the following table to make some minor changes to it.

Office	MP		Vote	Since	Party
Chairman		Volodymyr Groysman	359–0–3	November 27, 2014		Petro Poroshenko Bloc
First Deputy Chairman		Andriy Parubiy	313–23–4	December 2, 2014		People's Front
Deputy Chairman		Oksana Syroyid				Self Reliance
Faction leader(s)		Yuriy Lutsenko		November 27, 2014		Petro Poroshenko Bloc
		Oleksandr Turchynov				People's Front
		Yuriy Boyko				Opposition Bloc
		Oleh Bereziuk				Self Reliance
		Oleh Lyashko				Radical Party of Oleh Lyashko
		Yulia Tymoshenko				All-Ukrainian Union "Fatherland"
Group leader(s)		Ihor Yeremeyev				People's Will
		Vitaliy Khomutynnik				Economic Development

I wanted to point out the fact that the chair person and his or her deputies are unaffiliated members of parliament. There is sort of double affiliation for members of parliament one as part of parliamentary faction and another as the actual party. You see, parliamentary faction may include members not necessarily affiliated with its respective party. If you look at the party lists of parliamentary parties some deputies are not members of the party, but rather non-partisan. So, briefly may be we could change the table in the following way.

Office	MP		Vote	Since	Party
Chairman		Volodymyr Groysman	359–0–3	November 27, 2014		Petro Poroshenko Bloc
First Deputy Chairman		Andriy Parubiy	313–23–4=	December 2, 2014		People's Front
Deputy Chairman		Oksana Syroyid				Self Reliance
Faction leader(s)		Yuriy Lutsenko		November 27, 2014		Petro Poroshenko Bloc
		Oleksandr Turchynov				People's Front
		Yuriy Boyko				Opposition Bloc
		Oleh Bereziuk				Self Reliance
		Oleh Lyashko				Radical Party of Oleh Lyashko
		Yulia Tymoshenko				All-Ukrainian Union "Fatherland"
Group leader(s)		Ihor Yeremeyev				Non-partisan
		Vitaliy Khomutynnik				Non-partisan

This way it shows that the listed MPs are not part of parliamentary factions being chairperson and his (her) deputies, yet still keeping their membership with the actual parties. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:23, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

The changes would be consisted with the following diagram. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:26, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Location of parliamentary factions in the 8th Verkhovna Rada:

– Poroshenko Bloc   – People's Front   – Opposition Bloc

– Self Reliance   – Radical Party   – People's Will

– Fatherland   – Economic Development   – Unaffiliated

Also, please note that People's Will is not an actual party. It only exists in the Ukrainian parliament. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:28, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Aleksandr Grigoryev, thanks! I don't even know how I got started on doing the articles on electoral districts.. But all of a sudden, then there were two! I think I will only do a few more (perhaps in key Ukrainian electoral districts--Kiev for instance). But I noticed that many such articles exist on electoral districts in the United States, so it would be nice to have such articles about Ukraine as well..

Anyways, I like the color change you made next to the "leadership" portion of the table since they are unaffiliated deputies. However, I still think it is important that the reader is aware what parliamentary group Yeremeyev and Khomutynnik belog to (since their groups are still officially registered groups of parliament).

Perhaps instead of the entire column saying "Party" it should be changed to something along the lines of "Parliamentary affiliation" which is neutral yet quite descriptive of both political party factions in parliament and the (non-party) parliamentary groups. ☃ DDima 05:53, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

DDima, how is that? I think it looks just right. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 06:36, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Office	MP		Vote	Since	Parliamentary affiliation
Chairman		Volodymyr Groysman	359–0-3	November 27, 2014		Non-affiliated
First Deputy Chairman		Andriy Parubiy	313–23-4	December 2, 2014
Deputy Chairman		Oksana Syroyid
Faction leader(s)		Yuriy Lutsenko		November 27, 2014		Petro Poroshenko Bloc
		Oleksandr Turchynov				People's Front
		Yuriy Boyko				Opposition Bloc
		Oleh Bereziuk				Self Reliance
		Oleh Lyashko				Radical Party of Oleh Lyashko
		Yulia Tymoshenko				All-Ukrainian Union "Fatherland"
Group leader(s)		Ihor Yeremeyev				People's Will
		Vitaliy Khomutynnik				Economic Development

Aleksandr Grigoryev Perfect!! § DDima 06:59, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

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