Talk:2017 Florida Gators baseball team

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Porsche997SBS in topic How should rankings be displayed in schedule?

How should rankings be displayed in schedule? edit

In order to conform to the other articles Wikipedia has on Florida Gator baseball teams, I changed the way rankings were formatted on this page so that they would appear as with the # sign (ex. #2, #16, #23). I see this has been edited to show the "No." sign instead. I think there are several benefits to using the # sign rather than the No. symbol. (1) It is shorter and saves space. (2) It conforms with the other Florida Gators baseball team articles. (3) In general, it is more common in articles about college baseball teams (and college sports) to use the # sign.--Porsche997SBS (talk) 01:03, 22 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Three valid points in my personal opinion. However, under the MOS:HASH guideline that applies, these are not valid uses of the pound symbol on articles. I came across this rule sometime before the 2016 college football season and modified the templates used by college football and college basketball articles to reflect this standard in the MOS. So yes, I will admit that I did not follow this standard during my time editing the previous seasons' articles, and was going to fix those pages when I found time away from being a college student. Now that all of the previous seasons' articles are in the process of being created (big thank you to Porsche997SBS for leading this effort), this task seems a lot more daunting to take on solo (keep in mind that I used the nowrap template frequently in the schedule table to keep the schedule table looking neat – doing this in addition to No. ranking notation would be extremely time-consuming). I am not trying to be confrontational or obstructive with maintaining the No. ranking notation, but under the MOS it is the formatting standard that should be maintained. Benhen1997 01:46, 22 July 2017 (UTC)Reply
I honestly haven't followed the rule either, more for reasons of inertia than anything else. The relevant conversations took place at the College Football project, which along with College Basketball we tend to follow in terms of basic formatting. See here and here for the conversations, although there could well have been more. I figured for 2018, the pages I create would use the No. designation, and eventually we will get around to the old ones. Also, many thanks for all the work Porsche997SBS, it is much appreciated. Billcasey905 (talk) 01:56, 22 July 2017 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the responses guys. Interesting. Well, I guess we should follow the guidelines of style, even though it's weird to me considering how pervasive the # sign is in most sports media. I guess the NY Times uses the No. symbol though, so if it's good enough for them I guess it's good enough for me. College sports Wikipedia is really a mess considering how frequently it breaks this guideline. By the way, never thought you were being confrontational, I figured you had your reasonings and wanted to hear them. I'll get to work when I have free time switching out the # sign for No. symbols. Should be tedious but it'll get done eventually.--Porsche997SBS (talk) 03:16, 22 July 2017 (UTC)Reply
See my recent edits to the 1999 Florida Gators baseball team article. I changed around the wrapping proportions to fit the No. sign. I abbreviated the months to make room (Feb., Mar., Apr., Jun.). These are the proportions I used:
! bgcolor="#DDDDFF" width="6%" | Date
! bgcolor="#DDDDFF" width="19%" | Opponent
! bgcolor="#DDDDFF" width="5%" | Rank
! bgcolor="#DDDDFF" width="15%" | Site/Stadium
! bgcolor="#DDDDFF" width="4%" | Score
! bgcolor="#DDDDFF" width="13%" | Win
! bgcolor="#DDDDFF" width="13%" | Loss
! bgcolor="#DDDDFF" width="12%" | Save
! bgcolor="#DDDDFF" width="4%" | Attendance
! bgcolor="#DDDDFF" width="5%" | Overall Record
! bgcolor="#DDDDFF" width="5%" | SEC Record
--Porsche997SBS 03:56, 22 July 2017 (UTC)Reply