Talk:2014 Taiwanese local elections

Edit war

Hi, I recently noticed that there is an ongoing edit war on this article. I therefore call both 虎爺士強 and Popo51 to discuss the issue here, and decide what is best for the article. Remember, always keep in mind the three revert rule. Thanks, and I hope both of you can reach an agreement. Thanks, George.Edward.C – Talk – Contributions 14:45, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

虎爺士強，why are you removing election results?Popo51 (talk) 15:18, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

My opinion: I think the changes to the lead are well justified, however I simply cannot justify the large removals that have been occuring on this article, that's why I reverted 虎爺士強's edit. George.Edward.C – Talk – Contributions 15:26, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

If I can add my thoughts, not having been involved in this edit war, I think it might help if the article name is not changed again for now. Get the content right, then worry about the title. There is an issue about the names of Taiwan election pages after the Republic of China page was renamed "Taiwan". Perhaps we need a big discussion to see if we can get a resolution to that, but for now just focus on the article content.

With respect to the content, the first party is clearly the DPP. There are enough election results to say that now. As for whether the election is "on-going" or finished, I suppose it depends on your point of view. Voting has taken place, and all the big results have been declared. Does the fact some results might not have been declared mean the election is on-going? I don't know. John Smith's (talk) 16:24, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Fair enough. I now think no changes to the lead are necessary, as it is already Sunday in China, meaning the election has concluded. The edit war seems to have stopped now, we'll just have to wait and see. In terms of the naming, yes I do believe a discussion should be held of which is preferred. Maybe this discussion should be started @ Talk:Taiwan. George.Edward.C – Talk – Contributions 17:08, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Removed picture

I've removed the picture summarising the councillor results. It is unfortunately wrong. The KMT does not have all the majorities shown, such as in Taipei. In many situations the councils are "no overall control". The picture needs to be amended before it goes back up. Thanks! John Smith's (talk) 08:49, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

I see the caption has been edited instead. Many thanks for this. John Smith's (talk) 23:35, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Moved

I've moved this article from "Taiwan local elections, 2014" to "Republic of China local elections, 2014" so that it is consistent with past election articles. If anyone feels that we should use the former, please join the discussion at WT:TAIWAN#Election articles. Thanks. wctaiwan (talk) 17:56, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

... aaand reverted. I'm reluctant to do a requested move for this article since it would only generate a local consensus for the specific article. We really should standardise on one form--maybe consensus has changed and we now favour using Taiwan even for articles on government / state matters, but if so, we really should be consistent and move the other election articles. Please voice your opinions at WT:TAIWAN#Election articles, whatever they might be. wctaiwan (talk) 04:33, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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"abnormally designed"

@Impru20: Elaborate on what you mean by "abnormally designed". Ythlev (talk) 01:15, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Abnormal = Not conforming to rule or system; deviating from the usual or normal type. In your case, an election infobox which clearly deviated from what is the norm around Wikipedia, with a clear unconvenience of having infobox images occupying nearly half one's screen. Impru20^talk 01:22, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

This is what I see, which is totally normal. What do you see? Ythlev (talk) 01:54, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Given that (as I said) the main issue is the enormous design of your infobox style compared to the rest of the article, I think your image does little to show this. This said, we don't need such enormous image pics for leaders when smaller sizes can do the job. Impru20^talk 11:35, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Bring this up at Template talk:Infobox election then. You think they're too big, User:Lmmnhn thinks they're too small. Instead of changing your local settings, you both want to arbitrarily set sizes for everyone and make them un-adjustable. Ythlev (talk) 12:11, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Excuse me, but from the page's history I see the only issues came when you started editing the articles on your own without any consensus. These "arbitrarily set sizes" are the norm for all election articles in Wikipedia (and even for any article, actually, because articles hardly use the image's original sizes without any set size to adjust it to the article's needs and purposes), and I'm sure you alone do not have the right to cherry-pick what is arbitrary and what is not. It is your edits that are causing issues, so this is the actual problem. Impru20^talk 12:31, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

for any article, actually, because articles hardly use the image's original sizes without any set size to adjust it to the article's needs and purposes. No they are not. The norm is to use autoscaling. This article:

[[File:ROC 2014 Local Governance Township level.svg|thumb|right|Township level results of the 2014 mayoral and county magistrates elections]]

Another random article:

[[File:President Trump Participates in a Bilateral Meeting with the President of Ukraine Sept 25 2019.webm|thumb|Volodymyr Zelensky with Donald Trump in New York City on September 25, 2019]]

Please review WP:THUMBSIZE and MOS:IMGSIZE: Except with very good reason, do not use px, which forces a fixed image width. In most cases upright=scaling factor should be used, thereby respecting the user's base preference. Ythlev (talk) 02:31, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

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