Talk:2018 Taiwanese local elections

Red circle symbol

The red circle symbol should be defined in the article, preferably just before its first usage. -- 202.154.217.25 (talk) 08:30, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Further down, the article mentions "ticks" but does not identify that term as meaning the red symbol. The same sentence refers to nominated candidates, leaving it unclear why it does not say elected candidates. -- 202.154.217.25 (talk) 10:13, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Merger proposal

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Withdrawn. Will open an RfC. Ythlev (talk) 23:14, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

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I propose to merge 2018 Taiwanese municipal elections into 2018 Taiwanese local elections. Based on WP:IINFO, this article should be merged because it is mostly statistics and not much actual content. Including things like results of the 2016 election just to show the political landscape, instead of writing a simple sentence, is unnecessary. Ythlev (talk) 19:06, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

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Requested move 16 December 2019

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The result of the move request was: Withdrawn Ythlev (talk) 22:47, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

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• 2018 Taiwanese local elections → 2018 Taiwan local elections
• 2014 Taiwanese local elections → 2014 Taiwan local elections
• 2010 Taiwanese local elections → 2010 Taiwan local elections
• 2009 Taiwanese local elections → 2009 Taiwan local elections
• 2006 Taiwanese local elections → 2006 Taiwan local elections
• 2005 Taiwanese local elections → 2005 Taiwan local elections
• 2002 Taiwanese local elections → 2002 Taiwan local elections
• 2001 Taiwanese local elections → 2001 Taiwan local elections

– Consistency with general elections. Due to the political status of Taiwan, the attributive word should be "Taiwan" in the sense that the elections took place in Taiwan. Ythlev (talk) 06:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

• Comment: would seem that the general election naming is not consistent with every other country listed at Category:Presidential elections by country and the local style is consistent with Category:2018 elections in Asia. --Gonnym (talk) 11:48, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose WP:NC-GAL requires the adjectival form of the country be used – i.e. Taiwanese. The general elections articles should be the ones to be moved. Number 57 12:17, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

@Gonnym: @Number 57: What about 2016 United States presidential election and 2019 United Kingdom general election? Plus "Taiwan" is also an adjectival form. Ythlev (talk) 13:39, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

"Taiwan" is not an adjective, it is being used as a noun adjunct in the examples you cite. The UK and US articles do not use "British" or "American" as Irish editors claim "British" is POV language when describing something that includes Northern Ireland, and some editors claim "American" is ambiguous (neither of which I happen to agree with and it's doubly infuriating because whenever we have a discussion like this, they are always cited as 'proof' we don't need to follow the naming guideline). There is no equivalent applicable justification for preferring Taiwan to Taiwanese as far as I can see. Number 57 15:04, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Irish editors claim "British" is POV language when describing something that includes Northern Ireland Well using "Taiwan" or "Taiwanese" is POV when describing something that includes Kinmen and Matsu. some editors claim "American" is ambiguous. "American" obviously isn't ambiguous. It is imprecise; it is an identity, one which perhaps residents of places like Puerto Rico, Hawaii, or Guam don't identify with. Using "Taiwan" indicate that the elections took place in Taiwan rather than elections of a Taiwanese state. Also, US and UK ones don't use adjective forms for election names for a basic reason: they aren't common usage. Neither is it common to say "X Taiwanese election". they are always cited as 'proof' we don't need to follow the naming guideline. And why do we? It's called a guideline not a law (WP:IAR). Ythlev (talk) 19:39, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

The idea that the title excludes some small islands is getting into the realms of ridiculousness (especially when you would simply replace Taiwanese with Taiwan, which has exactly the same connotations with regards to the islands). Danish general elections include the Faroes and Greenland; French presidential elections include numerous territories scattered around the world. The United States/America decision was indeed made based on the spurious claim of ambiguity rather than the claimed lack of precision – see this discussion which ended with the vast majority of editors agreeing that America was an ambiguous term (later discussions ended with a different result). Number 57 21:26, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

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