Talk:2012 Istanbul suicide bombing

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Reviewer: Editoneer (talk · contribs) 17:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Lead Section

• Can you specify what Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front is? It seems their ideology is marxist, but I don't know what "marxist" mean, so what is this party's idea about bringing People's Liberation back in Turkey by committing bombings?  Done

Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front has its own article and these topics are wider than this attack itself, so in that case I think those information will be irrelavant with the attack "in the Wikipedia concept". If that were an academic article, I would totally agree about mentioning that, even more, such as the background of the organization, but readers can easily get that information from the article of the organization.--Nanahuatl (talk) 21:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Background

• a fire was opened on the police, I believe we should replace a word from there to get a hint that the fire is actually a gunshot... or do you mean like a fire in the sense of somebody being an arsonist?  Done

gunfire?--Nanahuatl (talk) 21:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes. Editoneer (talk) 04:40, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Done.--Nanahuatl (talk) 23:19, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• that did not comply with the stop warning of the police teams, I thought the plan was that they wanted to enter the police station and bombed themselves.. what made them suspicious that the police wanted to stop them?  Done

This was a different event that was ocurred about a couple of months ago. A routine police checkpoint, and the taxi just don't stop and the people inside start shooting at the police, the sources say.--Nanahuatl (talk) 21:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Can you mention that inside the article? Editoneer (talk) 04:40, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

I thought it was clear, since the paragraph starts with "On 20 July 2012" and the last sentence of the paragraph ("After the death of Hasan Selim Gönen, the information that DHKP-C was preparing for action against the police stations was reported to the press").--Nanahuatl (talk) 23:19, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• located at the entrance of the Gazi neighborhood, Does the police "gatekeep" entrances of neighborhoods for safety reasons or is something beforehand that caused the policemen to be there? And... Turkish neighborhoods has an entrance?

A better word should be "border" or "limit" I assume, or just leaving that :D--Nanahuatl (talk) 21:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

I mean, if we leave it like that it is a different part of the story, so maybe just "limit". Editoneer (talk) 06:21, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

• the taxi stopped after crashing into the pavement. Did the car crashed into the surface of the road?  Done

What's your suggestion?--Nanahuatl (talk) 21:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

I've contacted a Turk from Wikipedia:Discord and told me that you probable meant "sideways". Editoneer (talk) 04:40, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, done.--Nanahuatl (talk) 23:19, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• the woman trying to escape was injured in Gaziosmanpaşa. Is she the driver or the other one from the "one of two men"? And why is she trying to escape if she's part of a suicide bombing?  Done

As I said above, that part is not the suicide bombing, another incident that caused to this attack. "Two men" was wrong, I tried to fixed the sentence.--Nanahuatl (talk) 21:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

THe male passenger, try not to hurry up, "THe". Editoneer (talk) 04:40, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Done.--Nanahuatl (talk) 23:19, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• [1], [2], [4] can you translate the parts where it mentions the parts mentioned in the article? And what about McDonald's mentioned in there?  Done

Sure, I can translate in a while. "McDonald's thing" is just a reference of an unrelated activity of Işıklı, one of the people that mentioned in the article. It also mentions that she killed a police officer before, but also irrelevant with this attack.--Nanahuatl (talk) 21:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Attack

• At 11:00 (UTC+03:00) local time on 11 September 2012 AM or PM?  Done

AM :) Done.--Nanahuatl (talk) 23:25, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• he reached the x-ray device at the entrance door. There he threw a grenade inside, but it did not explode. He threw the grena inside the x-ray device or inside the establishment? Did it open pre-maturely or the x-ray isn't connected to the door?  Done

Inside of the station, done. The x-ray device is located after you enter through the door, a few steps away.--Nanahuatl (talk) 23:25, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• 75th Anniversary Police Station, the police stations in general? (Considering the capitalizations) or of that specific police station? If so shouldn't it be "The 7th anniversary of the police station?"  Done

The name of the station is that, The 75th Anniversary Police Station.--Nanahuatl (talk) 23:25, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• the sound of hand gunshots were heard what are hand gunshots?  Done

A mistake, should have been "two". Done.--Nanahuatl (talk) 23:25, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• Can you translate [5], [6], [7],

Again, translate how? The sources? In here or to translate for you to understand them?--Nanahuatl (talk) 23:25, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, translate the sources here so I can understand them, as I assume you're turkish and that Google Translate can easily paint a different story. Editoneer (talk) 06:21, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Losses and Damages

• Losses and Damages ---> Aftermath  Done

Done.--Nanahuatl (talk) 23:26, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• died on the road to hospital. ---> died on the road to the hospital.  Done

Done.--Nanahuatl (talk) 23:26, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• died on the road to hospital. Did he give testimony to his co-workers?  Done

The source doesn't mention such thing.--Nanahuatl (talk) 23:26, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Investigation and assailant profile

• Investigation and assailant profile ---> Investigation  Done

Done.--Nanahuatl (talk) 23:27, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• Gazi Cemetery, why is cemetery capitalized?  Done

It's the name of the cemetary.--Nanahuatl (talk) 23:27, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

• pressure-acting and piece-effect, pressure-acting means that it acts on the pressure put upon press the button? And what is "piece-effect"?
• [11], translation.

Reactions

• condemned the attack 3x, to condemn somebody it means to sentence, so how did they punish the dead?
• [12], translation.

Others

• [11], translation, please.

The article is good but it has problems but it's not that bad, I'm leaving this to you and then to the second reviewer, thanks. Editoneer (talk) 19:28, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Nanahuatl:, I must rush you to do progress, this was open for 7 days, if you don't respond, the article will be failed because of inactivity. Editoneer (talk) 07:25, 15 March 2021 (UTC)