Talk:2004 Football League Second Division play-off final

Sources

Background

• FCHD Bristol  Done
• FCHD Brighton  Done
• Times  Done
• 11v11  Done
• Brighton scorers  Done
• Bristol C scorers  Done
• Telegraph  Done
• Observer  Not done
• Sunday Times  Done

Match

• BBC  Done
• Guardian  Done
• 11v11  Done
• Times  Done
• Telegraph  Not done
• Independent  Not done

Post-match

• BBC Brighton  Done
• BBC Bristol  Done

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet (talk) 19:23, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that after winning the 2004 Football League Second Division play-off Final, some of the Brighton & Hove Albion players dropped the trophy while celebrating, damaging it?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/George Dinning

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 11:07, 14 February 2021 (UTC).

• - QPQ done, article easily meets the 5x expansion within 7 days rules (quick math suggests about 25x). Appears to be policy and citation compliant. Hook is interest and cited inline to a RS. AGF on paywalled source. Hog Farm _Talk 06:04, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:2004 Football League Second Division play-off Final/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Usernameunique (talk · contribs) 22:39, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Lead

• and missed out on the play-offs by one place — Any how many points?

  Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:46, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Route to the final

• midway through the first period, Rory Fallon put Swindon ahead. — Details?

  Added. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:46, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• Mooney missed his penalty and Andy Gurney's spot kick hit the post to allow Brighton to progress to the final — I assume you don't want to add too many details since this isn't the main subject of the article? But it looks like Brighton made all of their attempts?

  Added. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:46, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• Joel Porter equalised for Hartlepool in the second half — Minute?

  Added. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:46, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• Christian Roberts made it 2–1 to Bristol City in the last minute — Details?

  Nothing "encyclopedic". The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:46, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Background

• Brighton had participated in one play-off final prior to 2004 — Any semifinals as well?

  Nope. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:55, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• This was Bristol City's fourth involvement in the play-offs — Worth adding the two other semifinals?

  Have done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:55, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• and was content for Bristol City to be considered favourites to win this final — This sounds odd. He was content to be considered favorites, even if they didn't actually win? Also, this should be worded according to what he said, not what he thought.

  Quoted it. He was happy to be favourites despite that normally working against teams: the "UNDERDOGS" prevail!! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:55, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• "by mutual consent" — The quotation marks make it sound as if there's a private backstory. Is that intentional?

  Just quoting from the "LMA" article. It almost always isn't quite what it seems. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:55, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• was a doubt — Sounds jargoney

  Reworded. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:55, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Summary

• Location not mentioned

  Added. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:01, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• Brian Tinnion's free kick was kept out by Ben Roberts. — Minute?

  Not noted. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:01, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• Virgo was shown the first yellow card of the game. — For what?

  Not mentioned. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:01, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• Roberts himself dropped a cross from Craig Woodman only for Tony Butler to shoot over the crossbar. — Is "himself" doing anything in this sentence? What does it mean to "drop a cross"? How did it get from Roberts to Butler?

  Deleted himself. Well drop means not keep hold of when trying to catch, and a cross is a Cross (association football) which is linked. When the ball is dropped it is possible that it can go to any other player on the pitch and in this case it must have fallen to Butler. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:01, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• Doherty became the first Bristol City player to be booked. — What did he do?

  Not noted. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:01, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• scoring his 26th goal of the season and making him the highest scorer in the league — In addition to these personal accomplishments, the goal's effect on the game should be mentioned: it broke the goalless tie and made it 1–0.

  Tweaked. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:01, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Post-match

• Some of Brighton's players dropped the trophy while celebrating, damaging it. — Any more details about this? I know it's tangential, but it happens a lot and is entertaining to read about when it does.

  No, sadly it was only mentioned in one or two sources and only in passing. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:05, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• confirming the play-off final defeat was critical — Is this something he said, or something that someone extrapolated?

  It was a synopsis of "unquestionably caused the momentum of the club to falter" but I've replaced it with the quote as it's really verbose and rich. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:05, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

• Bristol City finished in seventh position in the Second Division and missed out on the play-offs by one place. — And how many points?

  Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:05, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Overall

• The Rambling Man, over to you. --Usernameunique (talk) 22:44, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Usernameunique cheers, alles gut. I've made as many changes as possible, responses all above. Let me know if there's anything else I can do. Thanks for the review again. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:05, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

The Rambling Man, looks good also. Passing now. --Usernameunique (talk) 04:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)