Help talk:Interwikimedia links
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Toolserver interwiki link
editIs it possible to create an interwiki link to the toolserver? If so, what is the syntax?
Thanks, -Reuvenk[T][C] 21:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- It appears that [[tools:]] works. See this list. 7 04:40, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Oldwikisource
editShouldn't the prefix "oldwikisource" be listed here? It appears to work, and no other way is listed to link to it. Example: oldwikisource:. – b_jonas 23:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
International links
editHow are the links called that connect the current article to its analog articles in other languages, and which can be seen on the lower left corner of the article? For example, in the article Soup, there is a link [[de:Suppe]] that links to the German article about the same topic. --Abdull 19:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
How many articles from non-English wiki are have equivalents on English wiki?
editA question I asked at WP(A) - perhaps you know the answer? Please post there.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 21:24, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Merge with Wikipedia:Interlanguage links?
editIt seems to me that both pages are on a very similar topic, why not merge them?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 21:24, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- I think that is a good idea. I'm setting up the merge templates. --Swift 17:46, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- Ok as long as there are lots of redirects (I'm sure there will be; I created a bunch of redirects to Wikipedia:interlanguage links and I'm sure they'll get updated with the merge.) However, note that when I first saw words like "interwikimedia", I assumed they were talking about going between different formats or technologies, such as between Wikipedia and Wiktionary and other sister projects, rather than between languages. --Coppertwig 18:22, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
- Absolutely, they talk about the same thing. BTW: the main page on links is a piece of crap. It talks about lots of details but misses out completely on a concise overview on link syntax (it only explains the most common local inter article link syntax). Roeschter 00:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- I do the merge. --Altermike 11:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Short form for Commons?
edit"c:" ??? seems a good idea to me. Where to ask? ++Lar: t/c 23:55, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- meta:? Not too sure that this is needed, though. This has definitely been brought up before. I'd suggest that you search Meta, Commons and the email lists. --Swift 06:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- Can you be more specific as to where on meta??? And why was it turned down before if you recall offhand, it seems a really good idea, saving significant time. (just as w: does). ++Lar: t/c 17:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- I've not seen this discussed anywhere (note the questionmark), but Meta would be the appropriate place (the Meta "Community Portal" version is meta:Meta:Babel). My use of the word "definitely" was to represent my personal view of the certainty that this must have been brought up in previous discussion.
- I don't think typing "ommons" takes all that much time. --Swift 19:53, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- Just a guess, but perhaps "C:" = C: drive : ) - jc37 20:23, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- And I don't think typing "ikipedia" takes all that much time either, but we have "w:" after all. Perhaps I type "ommons" more than you do. I'd point out that I asked about where to ask about this, and did not ask to engage in a debate about whether it was a good idea or not, in the wrong place. Thanks for clarifying that "definitely" meant your supposition about matters rather than knowledge or memory. ++Lar: t/c 20:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- "we have "w:" after all." One feature does not necessitate others. This doesn't work on precedence. Furthermore, having "wikimedia:" instead of "w:" on links would take up quite a lot of space. Given the frequency that one might want to link to an encyclopaedic entry on a term without too much disruption to the text in which the link is in, the shorthand seems like a good idea.
- "Perhaps I type "ommons" more than you do." Maybe you do. Great for you.
- "[I] did not ask to engage in a debate about whether it was a good idea or not" Nor did anyone force you to engage in any form of debate. I voiced my oppinion and you, on your own free will, decided to reply by introducing your rationale for your idea into this discussion. If you dislike the discussion, a good start would be to refrain from engaging in it.
- "your supposition about matters" Perhaps it would be more accurately labeled as educated assumptions. It has not been my experience that the WMF crew is fairly thorough in their decisions. It is, however, still possible that you are actually the first person to suggest this.
- Good luck. Perhaps you will consider posting your findings for others that come after you in search of this same question? --Swift 01:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Wow, I forgot about this discussion. In the intervening time I've went from someone who wonders about this to someone who does a significant fraction of the maintenance on the map. :) (and discovered the truth about what Swift said about thoroughness :) ) Turns out there are technical reasons why setting up c: would cause problems. See this version of meta's Talk:Interwiki map... this probably will not be done. So there, I reported back with my findings. :) and only 14 months late :) ... ++Lar: t/c 11:26, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Wikispecies
editIs there a short form for Wikispecies links? Cheers, -- Visviva 15:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Guidelines
editIs there any guidelines for when to put interwiki links in the text? Can I use Template:WD to make inline links to wiktionary from any article, or should I only make inline links to other wikipedia articles? /¨81.229.40.5 22:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Can someone add Cookbook?
editCan someone add cookbook to the list? {{cookbook}} — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnnyMrNinja (talk • contribs) 22:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Should we link to other wiki?
editA discussion is ongoing at WP:BOWN regarding links to questionable other-language foundation projects. Please comment there. — xaosflux Talk 11:27, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
How NOT to link to an Interwiki
editI'm working on splitting off articles from the V (TV series) page, and have run into an interwiki problem: linking to Wikiversity when I want to link to en.Wiki iinstead. V:The Final Battle is the name of the second V miniseries, but V:The Final Battle goes to the Wikiversity site instead. V (The Final Battle) is an alternate way to avoid this, but it may still be a confusing situation. I'd like to make sure edioters don't try to use V:The Final Battle in linking to the page without there being some kinkd of redirect or DAB page available. Is there some alternative around this? Thanks. - BillCJ (talk) 02:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- Same problem here: Q: The Musical Biography of Quincy Jones should not link to Wikiquote, but to an album, whose title starts with "Q:".--Oneiros (talk) 18:39, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Complaint
editIt took me fucking million years to find this page. The help could be easier to find, god damnit! --84.250.188.136 (talk) 04:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Interlanguage extension
editThere's a new MediaWiki extension that may make the maintenance of interlanguage links, often called "interwiki", much easier.
See here for the relevant discussions:
- on meta: meta:Talk:A newer look at the interlanguage link
- on the Wikitech-L mailing list: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2008-September/039472.html
- on Bugzilla: MediaZilla:15607
Your input is welcome. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 20:57, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Sister projects and UserPages
editI cannot for the life of me make links on my user page to the other projects?
t:User:Mjquin_id, wikit:User:Mjquin_id and {{Wiktionary|User:Mjquin_id}} works, but as a Userbox...Anyone have ideas? -- Mjquin_id (talk) 05:03, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
[[wikt:User:Mjquin_id]]
or[[wiktionary:User:Mjquin_id]]
For the full list of interwikimedia links and their shortcuts and templates, see Wikipedia:InterWikimedia links –pjoef (talk • contribs) 17:33, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Wikia
editAm I correct in assuming that wikias are external? If so, that is pretty daft, as all that is "uncyclopedic" is sent there, yet thery are external... --Squidonius (talk) 09:54, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, Wikia-hosted wikis are considered external links. But I don't understand what you're saying.. could you rephrase? -- Ϫ 03:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, that answered my question. (What I meant was that I do not get is the dismissal as "external" of wikias despite the facts that Wikias belong to wikimedia and a lot of the information was stored on wikipedia before they were sent there. It would make more sense adding them to the interwiki lists, in my opinion, but the stuff on wikia are absolute crap so it does not matter.) On a side note, I posted a note in the village pump about a utterly speculative solution to better interlink the sister projects by having the choice outside of the article. --Squidonius (talk) 17:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Wrong, wrong, wrong! Wikia is not Wikipedia. Wikia is not a project of Wikimedia. In fact, Wikia should just be ignored totally, insofar as any serious attempt at writing an encyclopedia is concerned. AGK 01:25, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, that answered my question. (What I meant was that I do not get is the dismissal as "external" of wikias despite the facts that Wikias belong to wikimedia and a lot of the information was stored on wikipedia before they were sent there. It would make more sense adding them to the interwiki lists, in my opinion, but the stuff on wikia are absolute crap so it does not matter.) On a side note, I posted a note in the village pump about a utterly speculative solution to better interlink the sister projects by having the choice outside of the article. --Squidonius (talk) 17:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
FYI, {{Iw}} has been nominated for deletion. 70.29.210.155 (talk) 04:15, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
namespace
editwhy is this page not in 'Help' namespace? --Ludwigs2 16:53, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
scratch that - I got to it an odd way, through wikipedia space. --Ludwigs2 16:55, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
cross-wiki cross-language often does not work
editAt the time of writing, the link as it is given as example, e.g., de:w:Test to link to the German Wikipedia page "Test" (e.g., from the English Wikisource, or any other such cross-combination), does not work. It appears right now that here, w:de:Test would indeed work (but we already are on WP !), but neither of fr:w:Test nor w:fr:Test (*) nor any other combination (with ":" replaced by dots or omitted alltogether and/or "w" replaced by WP or WikiPedia etc etc) did (not) work when I wanted to use this on :s:de (German Wikisource). ((*): the :w:fr.... works here, but again, we already are on WP !). Are they supposed to work? If s/o knows the answer, please let me know by PM or on my talk page, I fear I won't find the way beck to here that soon. Thanks in advance.— MFH:Talk 15:13, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Secure server is appropriately chosen, right?
editH:IW#Secure server says that it always uses http, but if you're using https, then the produced link is https, as far as I tested. Please clarify. Thanks. --Ahora (talk) 05:05, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
wiki: interwikimedia link points to a page on c2.com? Not explained anywhere.
editWhen I was creating my User page on Wiktionary, I decided to link to my Wikipedia User page. I intuited the interlink syntax and tapped in [[wiki:christopherwoods|ChristopherWoods]]. However contrary to my expectation, the server outputted this URL in the Preview: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?christopherwoods
To get the correct interwikimedia link, I had to specify [[wikipedia:User:Christopherwoods]].
Now, the Meatball logo at the bottom of the c2.com wiki page points to http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/FrontPage and I understand Meatball has some association with interwikimedia linking. It's completely non-obvious though and slightly counterintuitive. Why does wiki: point to a c2.com wiki page and not produce a wikipedia.org URL?
International chapters
editI got to this page looking for how to link to an article in the German Wikipedia. In reading the page, I was puzzled by the table column heading "International chapters" Chapters of what? Is this another term for "categories", like "page" and "article"? After clicking on one of the linked prefixes I finally got it.
I've clarified that heading by extending it to "International chapters of Wikimedia". That stretches the header box vertically, but it doesn't mess up parallelism or lengthen the page any.
--Thnidu (talk) 04:01, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Link to Wikipedia in another language
editI came here to learn how to link to an article in the German Wikipedia. I didn't find an answer till I got down to "Examples". I've added a row in the main table (Shortcuts and templates to Wikimedia sister projects), labeled "Wikipedia in another language *", where the asterisk is linked to the section Links crossing languages and projects.
Will someone more knowledgeable than I please check that over to be sure I've done it right? Thanks. I'm going to post a pointer to this section at the Help Desk. --Thnidu (talk) 04:27, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- Looks correct to me :-) It may be prudent to do a minor rewrite to instruct on the best practice of putting the language ISO after the interwiki abbreviation, simply to promote ease of readability. Chris W. (talk) 11:32, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata
editI've raised a question at meta:Help talk:Interwiki linking#Wikidata. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:12, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
Tricky colon before language code?
editI don't understand the issue well enough, but I almost always have to put a colon in front of the language code for the link to be parsed correctly. The examples show this usage, but in the sister projects table of section 1, "Wikipedia in another language" omits the colon. Adamw (talk) 09:06, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, this is tricky. With the colon, you get an inline link; without the colon, the software instead adds the link to the "Languages" section in the left toolbar. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:14, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Diffs & oldids
editHow do we link to a diff or an old ID on a sister roject? e.g.
-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:11, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: Try these
[[d:Special:Diff/206839760]]
→ d:Special:Diff/206839760[[d:Special:Permalink/171768343]]
→ d:Special:Permalink/171768343- Or you could use the templates
{{Cross-wiki diff}}
{{Cross-wiki free diff}}
{{Cross-wiki language diff}}
{{Cross-wiki language free diff}}
,{{Cross-wiki oldid}}
{{Cross-wiki language oldid}}
. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:06, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Non-WM interwiki links
editI would like to open a line of discussion on the topic of inline links to non-Wikipedia projects. Is there previous discussion on this topic that I should be aware of? A lookaround has failed to locate much discussion of external links other than WP:EXT, which pretty much restricts itself to the discussion of the External Links section.
The nutshell version: Wikipedia's interwiki linking practices strike me as needlessly insular. We do however allow occasional links to other projects such as Wiktionary; and if so, I see no possible justification to categorically ban interwikilinks to other established wikis. What, then, is the position on them exactly? --Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 07:18, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
"Doubling prefixes" information wrong.
editIt says: "When using language codes, the order of the prefixes does not matter."
However, sometimes, it matters.
For example:
-fireattack (talk) 05:25, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
- The non-working link expands to https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/w:Test - curiously, it works fine at the French Wikipedia (using links to English) where it yields something almost the same https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/w:Test; see fr:Special:Permalink/142779594#Et les liens. Perhaps the
w:
prefix is itself short forw:en:
. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:48, 20 November 2017 (UTC)- After a few more tests, it looks like if you use "proj_prefix:" at the same project, it will actually mean en:. The same thing will happen if you use "wikt:" on https://fr.wiktionary.org. -fireattack (talk) 17:55, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
How about prefix codes for linking to Simple English Encyclopedia?
editHow do I link from any wiki project to a Simple project without it looking like an external link? Danidamiobi (talk) 16:36, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Which project did you have in mind? They don't have projects in the same way that EN WP has; see simple:Wikipedia:WikiProject.
- For pages and articles – have you tried [[:simple:Jimmy Wales]]: simple:Jimmy Wales? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 00:34, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- The prefix
simple:
, which is used for this, is not an interwikimedia link - it is an interlanguage link. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:49, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- The prefix
I can't tell if this is a bug or not...
editWhen I try to make an interlanguage, interwiki link, the link works fine, but displays funny when I hover over. I made a working link zh:s:病後雜談之餘, but when I hover over the link with my mouse, it looks as if it goes to the nonexistent zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/s:病後雜談之餘. I spent some time wondering why the link was going to Chinese wikipedia instead of Chinese wikisource until I clicked on the link and saw it worked. Maybe worth mentioning on this Help page? NPalgan2 (talk) 08:30, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- @NPalgan2: If you click it, you'll find that it resolves correctly. But you could try exchanging the prefixes: s:zh:病後雜談之餘. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:06, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, I understand, I just wonder as it's a helppage that it may be worth mentioning that the link *looks* like its going to zh.wiki or en.wiki NPalgan2 (talk) 23:32, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
- There's nothing that we can do about it here, because it's part of the MediaWiki software. You would need to file a change request at phab:, per WP:BUGS. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:18, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
- No, I mean mentioning on this page right here Help_talk:Interwikimedia_links so that people learning how to make interlanguage interwiki links aren't confused. Because I was. NPalgan2 (talk) 13:53, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
- There's nothing that we can do about it here, because it's part of the MediaWiki software. You would need to file a change request at phab:, per WP:BUGS. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:18, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, I understand, I just wonder as it's a helppage that it may be worth mentioning that the link *looks* like its going to zh.wiki or en.wiki NPalgan2 (talk) 23:32, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Proposed merge into Help:Interwiki linking
editPlease discuss the merge at Help talk:Interwiki linking#Merger proposal, not here or anywhere else. Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 02:23, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
How can I insert a picture from the English version into another language version?
editI am trying to add the Logo of a radio station in the Portuguese version of an article. In the English version, Kiss FM (Portugal) has the logo but it isn't available in pt.wikipedia.org and I tryed adding [[en: the name of the item in the English version and then ]], but it doesn't work.
Can someone explain me how to do it? Tuggaboy (talk) 18:57, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Tuggaboy: you would have to download it, and them upload it again to ptwiki - ensuring that you follow the rules at w:pt:Wikipédia:Conteúdo restrito. — xaosflux Talk 19:11, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: It doesn't allow me to, I need to have more than 500 editions. There should be a way to use an image saved in Wikipedia, like using the prefix :en as I mentioned. The article now has no logo, and logos are allowed - that's exactly why it is in the English version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuggaboy (talk • contribs) 22:27, 11 February 2019 (UTC)