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List of College Basketball on ABC personalities

List of College Basketball on ABC personalities (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:INDISCRIMINATE WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS, 506sports is a forum and the ESPN now redirects to the main page, neither doing anything to establish notability. SpacedFarmer (talk) 21:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of NCAA March Madness commentary crews for CBS/TNT Sports

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:INDISCRIMINATE WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS, most of these are WP:PRIMARY. Of the three remaining sources two of them is dead and one is nothing but listings and announcments, doing nothing to establish notability. SpacedFarmer (talk) 21:33, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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BRTC AC Bus Dhaka–Narayanganj

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It was notability tagged, and I thought of PRODing it first. Anyway, It is a road transportation route of some AC bus service, which typically does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines unless it holds significant historical, cultural, or geographical importance. This specific route, while serving as a bus service between two cities, lacks the requisite significance to warrant a separate article.

Articles on individual bus services, particularly those of routine nature, are not within the scope of Wikipedia, as it is not a platform for travelogue content. The current article predominantly consists of mundane details such as launch dates, owners names, ticket prices, etc. without notable incidents or historical relevance.

While media coverage exists for this route, it primarily comprises routine or trivial news items, failing to establish the route's notability beyond its basic function. X (talk) 21:29, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Slow (Jackson Wang & Ciara song)

Slow (Jackson Wang & Ciara song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable release. Although it got a music video, there doesn't appear to be enough coverage per WP:GNG , additionally it did not chart, was not subject to considerable critical reception etc. so does not pass notability per WP:NSONGS. Could be redirected to Jackson Wang >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 21:19, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Reign in Slumber

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Article about a band, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC. The main notability claim being attempted here is that one of its members was previously associated with a different band, which is not "inherently" notable without WP:GNG-worthy sourcing -- but seven of the 16 footnotes here (close to half) are the band's own self-published content about itself on their own website or Bandcamp, which is not notability-supporting sourcing as it isn't independent of them, and the other nine aren't coverage about this band, but either glancingly mention this band in the process of being about something else, or are completely tangential sourcing about people associated with this band doing other unrelated things that have nothing to do with this band, none of which helps to support this band's notability either.
Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt them from having to have much, much better sourcing than this. Bearcat (talk) 20:47, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Reign in Slumber, is truly metal music band in Cambodia. this sub genre in it's very very rare find better sourced than this to support with their action. Without fund and most people came there just looking for free music during the music in Cambodia just built-up. Ten years they're struggle to survive, without them this sub genre will disappear in Cambodia. Please consider to accept my reason. Thanks JammyKH (talk) 21:22, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Cameron Stracher

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Does not appear to meet WP:AUTHOR, or to otherwise have the necessary in depth coverage in independent sources required to meet general notability requirements. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:21, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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HitmanPro

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Reliant entirely on primary sources and a press release. Tagged non-notable for 9 years without improvement. Previously dePRODed in 2009 claiming software is fairly widenly used and thus probably notable - this is irrelevant unless sourcing is provided, which it hasn't for 15 years. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:22, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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EFOSMO

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This article has many issues. If I understand correctly, EFOSMO is a proposed model that was presented in two academic papers that were published in several journals across the globe. Nothing further happened with the proposed model so I conclude that the subject does not meet WP:GNG and the article should be deleted. Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 16:28, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Support deletion: The article has multiple issues, but chiefly does not seem notable. Constant314 (talk) 18:43, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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Sevad

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Fails GNG, nothing found in article or BEFORE that this meets WP:SIRS addressing the subject directly and indepth. Ping me if reliable sources are found with indepth coverage meeting SIGCOV.  // Timothy :: talk  17:27, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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  There are some external links from famouse news portals related to this article. Different Rahul (talk) 06:18, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of flags by color combination

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List of flags by color combination (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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WP:OR, WP:TRIVIA, better suited via categories and galleries at c:, since we are not a list of galleries. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep I've always been a big fan of the nom's work on the encyclopedia but I've got to disagree with Koavf on this one. This is one of the more useful list articles out there and I don't think the deletion rationale sufficiently articulated how this fails WP:NOT; this is just a list article. The terms "gallery" or "galleries" never appear at WP:NOT nor do any of the ctrl+f search results for "list" point to anything that would make this list article problematic. What makes this one different from other list articles? All due respect, I think the original research claim will need some substantiation, too. Is it original research state that the flags of Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Palestine, Western Sahara, etc all consist of the colors green, black, red, and white? I believe we do the same thing on the article Pan-Arab colors, so I don't exactly know what makes it different when it's in a list article format. Is it original research to state that the Flag of Germany consists of the colors black, red, and gold? Is the original research part saying the same thing about the Flag of Belgium and categorize them both under the black, red, and gold section?

This isn't to say the article being discussed doesn't have room for improvement. It has quite a lot. But the biggest problem it faces is that it lacks a defined inclusion criteria, and that's something that can be fixed through a simple RfC, not an AfD. Maybe after this AfD is over, assuming the page isn't deleted, I'll suggest some possible criteria and start a request for comment. Some no-brainer criteria could be that you need to cite reliable sources to add a flag if it doesn't already have a standalone Wikipedia page.

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Thanks for your kind words. See WP:NOTGALLERY. This is not an article that discusses things, but a more-or-less arbitrary set of images. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Biography work

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I am not able to discern what the topic is here. The article seems to be an unsourced essay, not to mention very over-capitalized. Is there a notable topic here that someone can point out so we can fix it, or should we just delete it? Dicklyon (talk) 19:35, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• I believe this is a western esotericism philosophical concept. I see some journal sources describing "biographical work", but they appear to be talking about different concepts. Maybe there are sources for this, but I'm leaning delete as the article is too incoherent to properly describe what it's about. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 20:19, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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Nick Trenkel

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Redirect to List of Canada national rugby union players as I am unable to find enough coverage to meet WP:GNG. The most I found was a few sentences here from his high school football days. JTtheOG (talk) 18:40, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of athletes who came out of retirement

List of athletes who came out of retirement (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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An WP:INDISCRIMINATE list of sportspeople who 'retire' for various reasons undisclosed in this list. It is nothing new to see some of them being dropped by their teams then take a season out and come back, does that mean they have 'retired'? Take this example of Fernando Alonso, he did not retire at all. Despite being without a drive, and despite competing at Le Mans and tried to qualify at Indy in 2019, he was held by his team under contract, then COVID. Overall, I cannot see how this pass WP:LISTN either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 18:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Riccardo Genovese

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, an Italian rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was routine transfer news (1, 2, 3, etc.). JTtheOG (talk) 18:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Patricia Quinn (disambiguation)

Patricia Quinn (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No need for this dab page, per WP:ONEOTHER. Users can hardly know of its existence since it is not even hatnoted atop Patricia Quinn, where the hatnote only states, "For the American scientist, see Patricia Quinn (atmospheric chemist). For similar names, see Pat Quinn (disambiguation)." If preferred, instead of deletion, Patricia Quinn (disambiguation) can simply exist as a redirect to the Pat Quinn dab page. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:46, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Question - When I started this DAB page there were three people named Patricia Quinn (Patricia Quinn (Northern Irish actress) , Patricia Quinn (American actress), and Patricia Quinn (scientist)). It looks like this was changed about a week ago and the set of names has changed. Was there a reason for this? Or can we shift the page back to its prior state? DaffodilOcean (talk) 18:19, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Comment It was decided that the British/Irish actress was the primary topic, and the American actress would be better called "Pat Quinn". So this page might be unnecessary, but we do have the two "see also" entries. PatGallacher (talk) 18:35, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete I'm leaning towards the view that these "see also" entries are not enough to justify having this page. PatGallacher (talk) 18:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

    I don't really have strong feelings either way, but I am still a little confused. What happened to Patricia Quinn (American actress)? She was lost entirely. DaffodilOcean (talk) 18:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

    Oh wait - I see, the American actress is now Pat Quinn, under the see also. DaffodilOcean (talk) 18:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. There is no reason to exclude Patricia Quinn (American actress) from this page, merely because the subject also fits on another page. "Pat" is her common name, "Patricia" is her given name. BD2412 T 19:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

List of ESPN College Football personalities

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:INDISCRIMINATE WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS, most of these are about the game and if they do, barely offering much to establish notability. SpacedFarmer (talk) 17:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Indiscriminate and WP:LISTCRUFT, and Wikipedia is not a directory. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 18:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Working Women (TV series)

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This TV drama fails to meet WP:NTV as I couldn't find sig/ in-depth coverage. ROTM coverage like this and this and even INTERVIEWS like is not enough to meet GNG.

Not every TV drama aired on TV channels inherently get a WP page. In Pakistan, we only have TV dramas, nothing else, so we don't need an article on each one of them based solely on some ROTM or paid/PR coverage —Saqib (talk I contribs) 17:25, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep: With quite a few WP:RS cited in the article. Also, the sources you mentioned in the nomination's rationale do help in meeting WP:GNG. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 18:05, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Cocobb8, I should have made it clear that the majority of sources currently used in the article are not even RS, so they shouldn't even be considered here. And the ones I provided in my nomination aiove are not enough to meet GNG, which requires significant coverage. not merely ROTM coverage or interviews like I mentioned above. A Google search also doesn't yield anything solid in RS that could be considered significant coverage. Hope this clarifies. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 18:43, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
    • @Saqib: Sources like this and this do help in potentially establishing WP:GNG, but I'll leave it to other editors to see what they think as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cocobb8 (talk • contribs)

Neither of them is reliable enough to establish WP:GNG. --—Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:46, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Tumhare Husn Ke Naam

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This TV drama fails to meet WP:NTV as I couldn't find sig/ in-depth coverage. ROTM coverage like this or namechecks coverage like is not enough to meet GNG.

Not every TV drama aired on TV channels inherently get a WP page. In Pakistan, we only have TV dramas, nothing else, so we don't need an article on each one of them based solely on some ROTM or paid/PR coverage —Saqib (talk I contribs) 17:20, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of ESPN College Football broadcast teams

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:INDISCRIMINATE WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS, fourteen of those are wiki pages, and the rest, if not unsourced, is WP:PRIMARY. SpacedFarmer (talk) 17:15, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Justinmind (software)

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Fluffy product description for an app lacking WP:SIGCOV. Sources that aren't the app's website are limited to lists of apps that won an award. Only one of these lists discusses the app, and it's more ad copy Wizmut (talk) 17:06, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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2024 Delhi schools bomb threats

2024 Delhi schools bomb threats (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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general inconsistency and clumsy structure of the article bordering on WP:CIR, plus non-notable and non-lasting coverage of a news report

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List of College Football on ABC personalities

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Also, this list is mostly unsourced per WP:RS, barring two WP:PRIMARY and a wiki page, none of those asserting notability. SpacedFarmer (talk) 17:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Government Ayurvedic College, Guwahati

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Tried to improve the article but I failed to improve it per WP:SNG as well as others. Twinkle1990 (talk) 16:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Jeevan Nagar

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This TV drama fails to meet WP:NTV as I couldn't find sig/ in-depth coverage. ROTM coverage like this or namechecks coverage like is not enough to meet GNG.

Not every TV drama aired on TV channels inherently get a WP page. In Pakistan, we only have TV dramas, nothing else, so we don't need an article on each one of them based solely on some ROTM or paid/PR coverage —Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Gladerberg

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Possible hoax. Orphan. No references. The creator was banned with their talk page cluttered with deleted articles they made. No evidence for the mountain existing (all sources I found are clearly "sourced from Wikipedia"; including Google Maps, which is semi-user generated). No official mapping or biodiversity agency has ever covered it. The coordinates provided are to a slightly elevated hill in Naturpark Reinhardswald, and the official website yields no results when "Gladerberg" is searched (https://www.naturpark-reinhardswald.de/content/search?SearchText=Gladerberg). I'm new here and assuming a "speedy delete" is reserved for emergencies? If so, this is not an emergency. BlueSharkLagoon (talk) 16:28, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• It doesn't quite meet the case for speedy deletion, which is reserved for blatant cases, but it could pass proposed deletion. Delete unless sourcing can be improved. PatGallacher (talk) 18:40, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Comment. There is a hill called Gahrenberg 12 miles away from the coordinates provided, which the park's official website does confirm exists [1]. For those who don't speak German, the source reads The second highest elevation of the Reinhardswald's forest is the Gahrenberg with 472 m. I think the proposed article is likely a mistranslation/spelling mistake. BlueSharkLagoon (talk) 19:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Fatima Feng

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This TV drama fails to meet WP:NTV as I couldn't find sig/ in-depth coverage. Couldn't even find ROTM coverage in RS. This page only cites non-RS. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Daurr

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This TV drama fails to meet WP:NTV as I couldn't find sig./in-depth coverage. ROTM coverage like this is not enough to meet GNG.

Not every TV drama aired on TV channels inherently get a WP page. In Pakistan, we only have TV dramas, nothing else, so we don't need an article on each one of them based solely on some ROTM or paid/PR coverage. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 16:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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RFID Global Solution

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. None of the sources even half meets corporate GNG criteria. The article reads like a self-written PR piece and the sources are just pieced together announcements, events and some self-written items. North8000 (talk) 15:56, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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22 Qadam

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This TV drama fails to meet WP:NTV as I couldn't find sig/ in-depth coverage. ROTM coverage like this is not enough to meet GNG.

Not every TV drama aired on TV channels inherently get a WP page. In Pakistan, we only have TV dramas, nothing else, so we don't need an article on each one of them based solely on some ROTM or paid/PR coverage. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:52, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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David Edmund Williams

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of notability under SNG or GNG. The only source is FamilySearch.org. And it it just very basic obit type info plus a one sentence mention that he was one of the founders of a political party. Tagged for wp:notability by others since December North8000 (talk) 15:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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101 Talaqain

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This TV show fails to meet WP:NTV as I couldn't find sig/ in-depth coverage. Simply being written by a freelancer is not enough to establish WP:GNG, nor is ROTM coverage like this and this.

Not every TV drama aired on TV channels inherently get a WP page. In Pakistan, we only have TV dramas, nothing else, so we don't need an article on each one of them based solely on ROTM or paid/PR coverage. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:40, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep: Significant coverage exists, including signed reviews, one being currently on the page. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Mushy Yank, I should have made it clear that the majority of sources currently used in the article are not even RS, so they shouldn't even be considered here.Which signed reviews are you referring to? Please provide a link here. Also, may I ask you to provide here some coverage which you think should be sig/in-depth. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 18:46, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

    TNS you mentioned yourself, signed Sadia Sherbaz; the review in Youlin Magazine, signed Hurmat Majid; this, signed Zainab Mossadiq; this signed Sophia Qureshi; for example. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

    Mushy Yank, So, if a piece is signed, does that make it reliable enough to establish GNG? I don't think so, because TNS like other Pakistani RS do accept guest contibutions. And Sadia Sherbaz have only written one article for TNS, as a guest contributor. This piece can be used for WP:V, but not for establishing GNG. Meanwhile, Galaxylollywood and TheBrownIdentity aren't even slightly RS. I've mentioned this several times on various forums. They're just internet business websites, with nothing to do with journalism. They even shouldn't be used for WP:V, let alone to establish GNG about something. We definitely need a guide that can help us determine which Pakistani sources can be considered RS and which cannot. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 20:28, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

    You're welcome. You do realise that you seem to be commenting each and every !vote that does not go your way and subsequent additions to the said !votes in the numerous Afd you initiated? It may be in a good spirit and I don't mind personally, but I'm just saying this to apologise in advance: I probably won't reply anymore, sorry. Also, I mentioned these reviews are signed because when I present reviews that are not signed, yourself and certain users discard them (by saying roughly ""not bylined" therefore not RS under NEWSORGINDIA", and so on). But apparently signed reviews are not good enough either and some have nothing to do with journalism (!). So when you say We definitely need a guide that can help us determine which Pakistani sources can be considered RS and which cannot., sure, maybe, but apparently, you have determined that by yourself and my input, added at your request, was not necessary. I therefore leave it at that and will spend no more time on this, again, sorry. Good luck. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:47, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

    Mushy Yank, Yeah, you're probably right. I might have gone a bit overboard with responding to every single objection to my AfD nomination. But as the one putting forward the AfD, it's on me to address any concerns people have, Right? But like when one mention those non-RS sources for establishing GNG, it's my responsibility to point out that they're not legit RS. Sometimes those sites seem solid at first glance, but with a closer look, they're more like glorified PR machines than actual journalism outlets. So, I guess what I'm saying is, your input is definitely important. I'm not too proud to admit when I'm wrong either – if you check out my AfD stats, you'll see I've withdrawn a bunch of nominations when I realized I goofed. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 21:08, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Venus (SiriusXM)

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 15:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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Michael Peters (media executive)

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Fails WP:BIO and WP:JOURNALIST. Run of the mill coverage of this executive who used to run Euronews, but not much in terms of in-depth of independent from the subject (interviews, press releases) which would indicate this is a notable individual under our guidelines. Pilaz (talk) 14:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Wally Scharold

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Recently restored after a prod deletion, it fails WP:NMUSICIAN. Theroadislong (talk) 14:43, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Does not appear to have serious coverage, and page plastered by "cn" comments. Although, looking at the article history, I think you mean "contested prod" rather than "restored after prod deletion". PatGallacher (talk) 18:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

  Improvements to citations are ongoing. Please allow some additional time to provide acceptable citations. Thank you. AimlessIdler (talk) 19:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

  Over a dozen citations added. One is to a bandcamp page which is the only record found for Scharold's membership located. If in violation of bandcamp spam policy it can be removed. The "cn" comments remain, will source these ASAP. Thank you. AimlessIdler (talk) 20:59, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Aero Composite Technologies

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The companies only notable activity appears to be holding the rights to Quikkit Glass Goose for a short period before going into administration. Searching for them bring no useful results (note there is a separate but similarly named company in Malaysia), and sources about the Quikkit Glass Goose only mention them in passing. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 14:36, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Battle of Urozhaine

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This is getting excessive. Yet another content fork article of a non-battle in this war. Uncountable such articles have been deleted already, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Tokmak, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Chuhuiv, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Dvorichna, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Krasnohorivka, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2024 Russian offensive, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Orlivka. Measures should be taken against users continously recreating content forks and lacking the capacity of discerning if a topic is notable or not.

Fighting at Urozhaine is not notable nor relevant enough for having an article of its own. It can be covered in any other article such as Southern Ukraine campaign or Urozhaine. There was already fighting in the village last year and it was covered at 2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive. The content of this article is already pretty ridiculous, it is said "Little is known for the battle itself" so I don't know why do we have an article for it ("as it just started"; see WP:DEADLINE). This battle over a small settlement is very unlikely to become notable in the future, and if it does the time for having an article will be then and not now. Also a source from 25 April 2024 is given to confirm territorial changes of the battle that supposedly started on 1 May. Super Ψ Dro 12:43, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Clerical comment: Article was nominated for deletion (AFD) less than 2 hours after creation, with no clear WP:BEFORE considerations. As of this comment, article is sourced two secondary reliable sources. WP:RAPID attempt at deletion, partially using WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST rational in said rapid deletion attempt. This is not a comment regarding a keep or delete, just clerical to establish a brief timeline. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 00:34, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Doesn't really matter. The article is clearly not notable, so it should be deleted. I don't get the "WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST" thing, I have just shown that this topic area is prone to repeated creation of non-notable content. Super Ψ Dro 07:43, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

• I support deletion of this article per WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. The term "Battle of Urozhaine" does not exist in reliable sources. The ISW-CTP citations here say nothing of a "battle of" or "battle for" the location and only make passing mentions of combat in the region. The NYT citation here does not mention Urozhaine either. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 04:59, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

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1996 Abakan Ilyushin Il-76 crash

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2nd nomination.
No significant lasting effects (demonstrated). Whilst it does have coverage, this is what would be considered a run-of-the-mill event. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:13, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Antti Anatomy

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No indication he's notable beyond his band. KaisaL (talk) 13:52, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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WBNM-LD

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Fails WP:GNG; another diginet coatrack. Could merge with sister station WBNA. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 06:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

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Delete, Might as well say that because couldn’t find any sources. --Danubeball (talk) 20:15, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Keep: Subject meets the WP:GNG with sources such as [[2]] and [[3]]. If the consensus is not to keep, I'd recommend a merge to WBNA. User:Let'srun 03:40, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

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Eugene Stanaland

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Contested PROD. Subject fails WP:NPOL as a local politician and WP:NACADEMIC. Fails WP:GNG; none of the handful of reliable, secondary, independent sources in the article (or in WP:BEFORE search) pass the WP:SIGCOV test. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:10, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep as author. I have added more secondary sourcing to back up previous claims, as well as more general information. I believe it covers significant coverage with sources such as Radio World and various newspapers outside the local area. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 15:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Ordo Aurum Solis

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Seems almost whole primary sources, thus seems to not pass wp:n Slatersteven (talk) 13:05, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete unless reliable secondary sources can be found, in which case the article would, of course, need to be completely rewritten. Brunton (talk) 15:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

  Which still might be best to nuke it for orbit and start from scratch? Slatersteven (talk) 16:19, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. No independent sources that would indicate notability outside of the bubble built by a couple of authors. –Austronesier (talk) 20:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Brighton & Hove bus route 5

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Non-notable WP: Run-of-the-mill bus route, see discussion of similar recent deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brighton & Hove bus route 6 --woodensuperman 12:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Brighton & Hove bus route 2

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Non-notable WP: Run-of-the-mill bus route, see discussion of similar recent deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brighton & Hove bus route 6 --woodensuperman 12:43, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Brighton & Hove bus route 1

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Non-notable WP: Run-of-the-mill bus route, see discussion of similar recent deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brighton & Hove bus route 6 --woodensuperman 12:43, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Brighton & Hove Breeze routes

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Non-notable WP: Run-of-the-mill bus route, see discussion of similar recent deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brighton & Hove bus route 6 --woodensuperman 12:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep, the routes have been discussed in various sources including the national broadcaster BBC News. I've added some of these to the article. Garuda3 (talk) 15:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
• Comment the nomination statement is misleading. This article is about a group of three related bus routes, not an individual one as stated, bringing into question how much attention has been paid to it and to whether any WP:BEFORE has been attempted? Thryduulf (talk) 18:08, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Brighton & Hove Coaster routes

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Non-notable WP: Run-of-the-mill bus route, see discussion of similar recent deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brighton & Hove bus route 6 --woodensuperman 12:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment the nomination statement is misleading. This article is about a group of four related bus routes, not an individual one as stated, bringing into question how much attention has been paid to it and to whether any WP:BEFORE has been attempted? Thryduulf (talk) 18:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

  The sources are all from the bus company or the local council. --woodensuperman 20:33, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

We Are One (global collaboration song)

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I'm not sure which WP:N criteria to apply here, whether it's NMUSIC, WP:NEVENTS, or just GNG. However, it doesn't meet any of those. This PROMO was created based on coverage that doesn't seem to have WP:SUSTAINED coverage. An interesting point to note is that the article claims the song features 40 musicians from seven countries, but I couldn't find coverage in RS outside Pakistan, except this and this but they're PAID placements. Interestingly, the creator also once nominated it for FA. Seems quite UPE. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Purwati (internist)

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Written with a promotional tune and does not meet WP:NACADEMIC, as the published research output is relatively modest, as is her academic career (Scopus H-index of 7; very few citations for 1st-author papers, total of 142). In terms of general notability, the coverage of her patent is not high by international standards, nor is there evidence of impact of the work (other than patent filing). FuzzyMagma (talk) 11:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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@FuzzyMagma: Hello, I agree that the subject of this article has not yet gained international recognition. However, in Indonesia, he is regarded as a prominent stem cell expert who frequently garners attention from major, reputable Indonesian mass media.

He holds the distinction of being a MURI record holder for receiving the most Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) in the Stem Cell Field in 2022, a testament to his significant contributions. Despite the challenge of finding additional sources regarding the impact of his research, these achievements underscore his expertise and standing in the field.

He was partner of the COVID-19 Response Acceleration Task Force during Covid-19 pandemic to advancing research, particularly in investigating Drug and Stem Cell Combination Regimens in 2020. Furthermore, his expertise is actively leveraged by Universitas Airlangga and hospitals to enhance stem cell services.

In 2019, as stated in the article, she received national recognition, being listed as an 'Indonesian Young Scientist' by the Ministry of Research, Technology, and Higher Education.

I remain guided by the notability criteria (Wikipedia:Notability). He is quite well-known in Indonesia despite not being internationally renowned. His notability has also been explained in the article through his career and achievements. Rahmatdenas (talk) 14:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

none of the sources looks reliable, with some being self-published, and the burden is on you to show that these sources are reliable, see [[WP:BURDEN]. As far as resources goes, this might all be a hoax as work around stem cells and COVID is highly cited, and I cannot see anything that suggests that.

PS: you mean "she" not "he" FuzzyMagma (talk) 14:23, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Bernard Glincosky

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American actor. I’m the creator of this page but after editing I realized subject does not have as many sources as I thought they may have had. I’ll leave it up to you guys whether you think it deserves an article or not.HeroicWarriors (talk) 11:23, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Malhun Hatun (fictional character)

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Fails WP:GNG. Having hard time to find any valuable source per WP:BEFORE + character has no reception at all. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 10:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Wilmer Street Ferry Pier

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Ferry pier in Hong Kong that doesn’t seem notable. I couldn’t find a suitable redirect target but a merge or redirect may be possible. Mccapra (talk) 10:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Swami Avimukteshwaranand Saraswati

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BLP of a religious leader lacking in depth coverage in reliable independent sources. There may be sources in other languages, in which case it would be good if someone could add them. Mccapra (talk) 10:39, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep Avimukteshwaranand is the current head (shankaracharya) of Jyotir Math monastery (matha). His views/ events are covered in newspapers/ TV ABP News [4], Navbharat Times [5], Dainik Bhaskar [6], Economic Times [7], Amar Ujala [8], The Statesman [9], Dainik Jagran [10]--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 12:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Dream Station Productions

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I'm not sure how this even meets WP:NCORP. The coverage seem to be inadequate per WP:SIRS, and this page is PROMO. I strongly smell UPE. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 10:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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  The nominator is biased and running some personal vendetta. Hence, the page should be kept. I'm more than welcome to make any changes as deemed necessary. Aanuarif (talk) 10:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi Saqib,

The page was approved by the admins when it was created in 2019 I guess. I don't know why you are making it a personal issue. I suggest to strongly keep. The sources are independent. Aanuarif (talk) 10:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Aanuarif, Aanuarif, Just because a page was approved in the past doesn't mean it can't be nominated for deletion now. I'm curious which admin approved it? I would like to ask them what basis they used. The problem isn't just whether the coverage is independent or not, but it's pretty clear they don't meet the WP:SIRS. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 10:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

No @Saqib, that's what you believe. Aanuarif (talk) 10:46, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Qudsia Ali

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The subject doesn't meet the NACTOR. Why? Because their roles in TV shows/films listed on the BLP are minor, not major. Additionally, the GNG also does not meet due to the absence of sig/in-depth coverage about her. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 10:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Speedy Keep meeting WP:NACTOR. Nominator is unable to understand any rationale, nominating all articles created by me despite meeting criteria of wikipidea. The roles she played have received significant coverage. Providing some coverage from reliable sources for proving my point.

• The Express Tribune. [11]

• Daily Times. [12]

• Daily Times. [13]

• BBC News. [14]

• DAWN [15]

• The Express Tribune [16]

• Daily Jang [17]

• Dawn Images [18]

• The Nation [19]

• Daily Pakistan [20]

• Dawn Images [21] Libraa2019 (talk) 11:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Libraa2019, Let's decide first whether we'll assess this BLP based on NACTOR or GNG ? —Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:15, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

One can check by reading those sources, how much important roles she has played in her career. Her roles have received significant coverage in reliable sources. Libraa2019 (talk) 11:21, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Libraa2019, That reply didn't quite answer my question. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

You are unable to understand any rationale and clearly not ready to listen others despite of them proving their points. Any ways, i dont have much time to spend as i am engaged in personal life. Good luck with your mission. Libraa2019 (talk) 11:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Anne Kadammanja

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Fails WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Nothing much available to establish notability. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malawi_Broadcasting_Corporation#Anne_Kadammanja where she is being mentioned in trivia. I am the creator of the article, and it would be best to simply redirect it as there are not much sources to support it as standalone article.--Tumbuka Arch (talk) 10:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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EcoCute (Japan)

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This is a recreation/fork of EcoCute (old revision link) at a new title with unnecessary disambiguation. The outcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/EcoCute in February was to merge it to Air source heat pump. They should be re-merged absent a changed consensus to split the content back out into its own article, such as via a WP:SPLIT discussion or WP:DRV. SilverLocust 💬 18:26, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment We just did this one and it's back again. !Merge as suggested less than 6mths ago. Oaktree b (talk) 19:47, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
• I mentioned my position/opinion is on Talk:EcoCute (Japan), please refer.--Namazu-tron (talk) 07:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep: Note that previous AfD was closed as merge despite the fact that it appears one editors were advocating for keep, one (nominator) for merge, and one for delete: it seems more like no consensus to me. Appears to have some international coverage from fiz-karlsruhe.de that's already cited in the article. ja:エコキュート has lots of coverage including from Yomiuri, Mainichi, Kyodo, NHK, and more including an award from ja:発明協会. I also found this magazine featuring it. I would also rename to get rid of the parenthetical per WP:PARENDIS. DCsansei (talk) 10:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
• Merge Re-creating a page that was closed as merge, now with a spurious disambiguation, is not constructive. Dmoore5556 (talk) 05:24, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  I understand the procedural point but that this AfD should still be evaluated on its own merits. I don't think a prior AfD with 3 !votes advocating for 3 different positions should prejudice this discussion. DCsansei (talk) 12:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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I started the previous discussion but have only just now become aware of this one. Also Wikiproject Energy was on the previous article but until now this article had no Wikiprojects on this talk page. Is there any way you could automatically notify people who were watching the previous article? Chidgk1 (talk) 07:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

• Keep: EcoCute is trademark with millions of units used in Japan, some number of units also used in oversea, hopefully more number in area other than Japan. Installations, Japan and oversea case study list Article context and external link shows reality. I had created article EcoCute in July 2008‎, in January 2024, nominated for delete, then merged to, but eliminated section EcoCute in Air source heat pump thereafter. EcoCute (Japan) is based on number of units used/working in Japan, so that this is eligible to be an article in fact with (Japan). As Generic trademark, no one nominate trademark Coca-Cola merger into Coke nor Jeep into automobile, neither Wikipedia® registered trademark neither. EcoCute is registered and generic trademark. I shall repeat once again:

Once an article A deleted and marge to another article B, even A redirected to B, anyone can edit article B include word A in context of article B, but long term in future, it is possible/happen the word A may disappear from B due to number of editing by many editor/user. No one able to guarantee such sad thing if article A is worthful. This is my understanding. This comment is in My opinon on 12:46, 7 February 2024. If this nomination be resulted as merge back to Air source heat pump again, or other, merge or delete nomination will be happened again and again. Independent article EcoCute (Japan) is much safer from delete/merge, and contribute CO₂ reduction with implemented efficiency. --Namazu-tron (talk) 11:06, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

• Merge: As I argued previously, if I remember right, nowadays this is not sufficiently different from other air source heat pumps to merit a separate article. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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• Keep, again: History of EcoCute merged after discussion in to Air source heat pump as section, then section deleted/eliminated without any talk, then ECoCute (Jpapan) created. Now EcoCute (Japan) is on AfD/ Merged again. If resulted to mereged in this discuss again and again, can anyone garantee protect/not be eliminated section EcoCute or EcoCute (Japan) by Banners like SfD (Section for Detele) for discussion, KS (Keep this Section) or something else.

Following step 1) - 4) is the editing history.

1) EcoCute, First AfD - EcouCute AfD Discussion resulted as merge on 17 February 2024

2) Then deletedm and merged into Air source heat pump EcoCute deleted, merged as section and redirected on 18 February 2024

3) Sudden Deleted section EcoCute on 27 March 2024 from Article Air source heat pump without any talk/discuss.

4) EcoCute, redirect to Fresh article EcoCute (Japan) on 25 April 2024--Namazu-tron (talk) 11:44, 10 May 2024 (UTC)--Namazu-tron (talk) 12:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

While I agree with keep, note that you only get one vote so you should consolidate your argument into one section or re-label one of them as a comment DCsansei (talk) 12:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

As far as I know nobody can guarantee that a merged section would not be deleted. I agree with @MrOllie that the section was too lengthy and only covered one product. However as this seems to have been very ahead of its time I believe it should be covered briefly in the air source heat pump article along with some other companies and/or products. Chidgk1 (talk) 13:04, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I deleted the section because it was a WP:UNDUE problem and looked like an advertisement for one company's product in that context. MrOllie (talk) 13:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Pls See section of talk page of EcoCute (Japan), '''Manufactures of EcoCute in Japan.''' EcoCute is not one company’s products, all mfg./vender, equally competing in market with named EcoCute, product type of Air source heat pump, as article said, to identify, not confused with other type of Air source heat pump by both seller and customer. I would like all you here to review for my long opinions on other page/section.--Namazu-tron (talk) 15:13, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

It's a registered trademark. Whether they are manufactured directly by that company or under license from that company is a distinction without a difference. MrOllie (talk) 15:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Number of companies produce variety number of models, size, performance and sell/buy price and others. Minimum requirement is both Refrigerant is CO₂ and making hot water, it is named as EcoCute in fair markets. Telling/ display/ indication of word EcoCute in sales promotion is no advantage, it just shows merely type of heat pump, not such as gas nor electric heating.--Namazu-tron (talk) 05:10, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

If some other companies and/or variety of products put on market in future, and is comparable or superior, than or equal capability to EcoCute reduce CO₂/ emission and Greenhouse gas, that will be a time to merge these as one type of heat pump in Air source heat pump sections.--Namazu-tron (talk) 07:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete and specifically Do not merge. Either it is notable enough for a standalone article or it isn't, and if it isn't it definitely should not be dumped into a general article - Wikipedia isn't a catalog, we should not be writing about individual product offerings in generic articles like that. - MrOllie (talk) 13:10, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Caribbean South America

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WP:UNSOURCED since creation in 2004. Not mentioned in any Google Books source, so likely fails WP:GNG. Formally proposing deletion after rejected WP:PROD. NLeeuw (talk) 18:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Nothing more than an unsourced defintion. The prod removal is utterly absurd, if you think this is "not an uncotroversial deletion", you need to explain what makes it controversial. Reywas92^Talk 20:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep Just needs to be sourced. I found hits in Google Books, but not on the first page, and "Caribe sudamericano" brought up other hits as well. There are potentially usable sources on the Spanish and Portuguese language pages. SportingFlyer T·C 22:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

  Which Books results are you seeing? Beyond the first page of the Caribbean—South America plate boundary, the hits are tables where they are adjacent labels. Looking at the iw links and searches in Spanish, it still just seems there's nothing much more to say beyond that Colombia and Venezula border the Caribbean and this may be a convenient way to group them. Merge that definition to Outline_of_South_America#Regions_of_South_America or something. Reywas92^Talk 04:11, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

  Various US Trade publications and some old guide books. SportingFlyer T·C 21:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  The Ministry of Tourism of Colombia calls that place “Caribe Colombiano” (I put a reference to the government page) so I think we just don’t know about it because we don’t live in Colombia, but seems to be a pretty notable geographical division for them. Contributor892z (talk) 23:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  Keep. I don't live in Colombia either, but I have visited twice (mainly Bogotá and Santa Marta), and it is important to realize that it has at least four regions that are completely different from one another: the high-altitude cities (Bogotá, Medellín, Cali), the Caribbean coast (Cartagena, Barranquilla, Santa Marta), the Pacific Coast (Buenaventura --- which may look on the map as being close to Cali, but for altitude and other reasons they don't resemble one another at all), and the various jungles (close to Ecuador, and other regions). One could even add the two islands (Providencia and San Andrés) as a fifth region totally different from the other four. So it's not just the Ministry of Tourism that regards the Caribe Colombiano as a specific entity. Athel cb (talk) 17:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment I never saw on any geography books that there is a Caribbean part of South America. Culturally speaking, I know that Guyana feels closer to the Caribbean than to South America, but I’m not sure this is worthy of an article. Contributor892z (talk) 21:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  Guyana is generally considered part of the West Indies. SportingFlyer T·C 21:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  Generally considered by whom? Not by me, certainly, and I don't ever remember hearing anyone say that. Spanish-speaking South Americans are barely aware of the existence of Guyana and the two other Guianas, Surinam and Guyane and in my experience never mention them. (Brazilians are a bit different because they have territorial claims.) However, none of that alters the fact that the Guianas are in South America, not the West Indies. Athel cb (talk) 19:10, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

  Geographically they are certainly in South America. Contributor892z (talk) 21:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• The article is pretty short, but Colombians clearly consider their northern coast from at least Cartagena and the Rosario Islands in the west to Riohacha and the Guajira Peninsula in the east to be Caribbean. The food and culture in the coastal region is heavily based on the Caribbean. Cbl62 (talk) 22:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  Looks like you are right, so I put the references (including one from Unesco that I got from the page Caribe Sudamericano) and now I am in favour of Keep then. Contributor892z (talk) 23:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  Just for clarity, I am in favour of Keep because it passes WP:NGEO: "named natural features, with verifiable information beyond simple statistics are presumed to be notable." Contributor892z (talk) 10:02, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

• Comment. The topic is already dealt with by country in the articles for the Caribbean region of Colombia and Venezuelan Caribbean. Not sure what added value we get by having an additional stub article on the combined Caribbean region of the two countries. That said, Spanish Wikipedians who are more knowledgeable on the topic than I deem it worthy of a stand-alone article. See "Caribe sudamericano" on Spanish Wikipedia. I suppose it may also serve a useful navigational purpose if nothing else. Cbl62 (talk) 12:05, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

  If so, we might as well make it a DP. NLeeuw (talk) 16:10, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

  Well, as you said, if the Spanish Wikipedia thought this was notable, it probably is… Contributor892z (talk) 05:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

• Really annoying how this sockpuppeteer keeps creating new socks to try and single-handedly close this AfD. The rollbacks and blocks are appreciated. NLeeuw (talk) 21:33, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

  Comment I've requested page protection. I don't know who keeps doing this, but regardless of the outcome, this discussion will have its orderly closure according to procedure, and will not be disrupted by WP:SPA WP:SOCKPUPPETRY. NLeeuw (talk) 23:26, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Seeds of Hope Publishers

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• Articles for deletion/Seeds of Hope Publishers
• Articles for deletion/Seeds of Hope Publishers (2nd nomination)

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The organization does not appear to pass WP:GNG The only references not published by the organization itself is a trivial mention in the NYT and a profile of the editor, Katie Cook, in bpfna.org, who was (at the time) an editor of bpfna.org as well. While there is a list of articles under the "Further Reading" section, one of the articles was written by a student newspaper, one from Baptists Today, and the others all seem to be limited to the Waco Tribune-Herald. They are mostly from the 1990s- and I have been able to find no significant coverage since.

This is the second deletion debate this article will go through- but editors should note that the only two "keep" votes came from new accounts that did not edit anything but their own user page and the deletion discussion. While that has no bearing on the organization's notability, new Wikipedia editors will want to read the policies on canvassing and recruiting people off-Wiki before they contribute. (Unless you want to provide more sources- please, if you have them, I would like them very much) GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 05:28, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Full of primary sources and only 2 gnews hits which is surprising for an American organization. Fails GNG. LibStar (talk) 08:59, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

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GMA Saturday/Sunday Report

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• Articles for deletion/GMA Saturday/Sunday Report
• Articles for deletion/GMA Saturday/Sunday Report (2nd nomination)

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Tagged as unreferenced since 2009. No good hits on GNews, GSearch and GNews Archives. Most hits are old TV guide lists. Suggest redirecting to List_of_GMA_Network_original_programming#Former_original_programming as WP:ATD. --Lenticel ^(talk) 08:47, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment on the last Afd

• The suggested reference in the old AfD is from GMA's news network.
• The suggested essay WP:TVSHOW that is used to argue for keep is well, an essay. It's better to follow WP:GNG and cite a reliable sources to support its notability.
• It was part of a mass AfD which probably made it harder for editors then to scrutinize each article's merit during that particular period. --Lenticel ^(talk) 09:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

William H. Kerdyk, Jr.

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I don't think this person meets Wikipedia's notability requirements because the non-trivial sources are all localised/ultra-specialised in nature. Also, this article was created by Lisabofita, who has a self-admitted conflict of interest and paid editing relationship with the article's subject, and also moved it from draft to article namespace without going through the articles for creation process properly. Graham87 (talk) 08:15, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: The language used in this article and the sources used are promotional in nature. HarukaAmaranth ^春_香 13:21, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

  Hello, please specify the particular language of concern, and someone can review and revise accordingly. The language of the page is not grounds for deletion; instead, efforts should focus on improving the article. Regarding the sources, I have included a list below of non-promotional sources. If you believe any specific sources are promotional, please explain your rationale. Additionally, could you please clarify what constitutes a promotional source? Are you suggesting that the individual paid to have these articles placed? Please provide clarification and any evidence or reasoning to support such claims. Lisabofita (talk) 21:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: I have been compensated for writing this article and have disclosed my affiliation on my userpage. Mr. Kedryk is a local politician in my area. We were introduced via a friend with the intention of my assisting in creating a page for him. I am uncertain if I am permitted to vote, so I am abstaining from doing so. Instead, I am posting a comment outlining my reasons for why the article should be retained.

He is a local politician with dozens of news articles about him. He meets:

WP:NPOL: Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage

WP:ANYBIO: Has won multiple awards

WP:BASIC: If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability:

Coverage includes:

4 articles in Community Newspapers 1, 2, 3, 4

Miami Herald

South Floriad Business and Waelth Magazine

Weekend Golfer

Lifystyle Magazine

Gables Insider.Lisabofita (talk) 21:10, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

H. B. Garlock

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Biography of a missionary who does not appear to be notable. Lack of in depth coverage in reliable independent sources. Mccapra (talk) 07:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Nii Atakora Mensah

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BLP of a content developer who does not appear to be notable. Mccapra (talk) 07:49, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: per nomination, appears to fail WP:BIO as only citation #1 seems reliable. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 14:46, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Oba Sefiu Oyebola Adeyeri III, Ajirotutu I

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BLP of someone who is either a non-notable local ruler, or possibly, per this source, a fraudster. Mccapra (talk) 07:47, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Mai Whelan

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Contested WP:PROD for a game show winner lacking independent notability per WP:GNG and WP:BLP for two key reasons:

(1) On notability, in contrast to other reality television show winners with articles, there is no evidence in the article of other public aspects to Whelan that would justify their discussion beyond the appearance on the show: no post-appearance career, appearance on other media, other notable contributions. Whelan's other personal details in the coverage are not the reason she is notable and themselves would not give rise to an article.

(2) My view is that there is no content on this page that could not be better subject to a WP:MERGE on the page Squid Game: The Challenge. Even if Whelan is deemed notable due to the coverage of her appearance on the show, the four sentences about her, if the sum of information known about her, is hardly information that isn't simple to cover on the article for the one thing she primarily inherits her potential notability from.

As ever, open to views! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 22:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep: We probably have enough for notability based on the game show win. [22] is also another source. Oaktree b (talk) 01:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: BLP1E, fails GNG and NBIO. Winning a game show does not make a subject notable, there is no indication this one event was notable, or that anything else related to the subject would meet GNG or NBIO.  // Timothy :: talk  08:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete, textbook case of BLP1E, and the relevant event is not such as to confer any kind of lasting notability. --Cavarrone 15:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Western Caribbean zone

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This reads somewhat similar to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Southern Caribbean in that it fails to identify a specific, notable topic. Searching for "Western Caribbean zone" yields no useful results at all, and while the sources here are citations for specific facts, I can't find anything that discusses this as a region as a whole. Describing these historical eras seems like original research when combining what happened in some places over a long time without being able to describe their relationships to a specific region, rather than just about Central America or History of Central America with a bit of adjacent Mexico and Colombia tossed in. Reywas92^Talk 20:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete per WP:OR/WP:SYNTH. Indeed it is very similar to the other 3 Caribbean subregion articles I nominated for deletion earlier today. It has sources, but those usually only deal with specific countries and not the purported wider region as a whole. NLeeuw (talk) 21:07, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

• Merge... In response here, I initiated this article in 2010 as a way to incorporate the Afro-Carribean diaspora into Central American history. Typically as it appears to me, work focused on Central America tends to leave out the important role played, as the original contribution did, that there is a complex set of African components in the region that were always connected to the the Caribbean, hence the Western Caribbean zone.

This includes, initially, the role of African groups like the Miskitos or Miskitos Zambos, with their international connections, to English colonies in particular, and then the use the English made of them to promote their own illegal (in Spanish eyes) trade with the region.

This was followed by the large scale migration from the English speaking Caribbean in conjunction with the building of the Panama Canal, and the actions of the fruit companies in particular. These communities are connected thought their adherence (today) to the English language (though many are bi-lingual), English customs, such as the Anglican church and other lesser religious groups that have home in the English Caribbean, to include customs like playing cricket.

I am perfectly willing to accept a merger with other areas, or a renaming, but I think that deletion of its content at least along the lines established here, is unnecessary and the piece is worthy of retention as a topic in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beepsie (talk • contribs) 21:54, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

I think History of Central America would be a good place to include most of this then. I agree with your comments that this is an important part of history, but even if this "zone" term is sometimes used, I don't think it needs to be a separate page like this. Reywas92^Talk 00:43, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

• There are definitely sources to support the term. I don't know why the conclusion is that there are no useful results at all - it seems to have been a British geographic term, and countries self-describe as being inside the zone. [23] SportingFlyer T·C 22:38, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
• I DO NOT agree on deleting this article because there is some important components that can help with the article. I'm currently not certain if a merger is possible while there there's a way to improve the nature of this article or we could just keep it as is while improving it. 20chances (talk) 19:57, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of National Invitation Tournament postseason broadcasters

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; one is a blogpost, one is a dead link, all the other four is WP:PRIMARY and the rest of this list are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 07:29, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Caribbean Basin

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WP:OR/WP:SYNTH, 1 source providing a dictionary definition, plus an WP:UNSOURCED quasi-duplicate of Caribbean#Countries and territories list. Whatever else this article might have been intended for, is better served by List of Caribbean islands or Caribbean Sea. It has been a redirect in the past, that could work instead of deletion, but then we must agree on the best target. NLeeuw (talk) 21:18, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

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PS: The discussion has evolved a lot since I commenced it three days ago. Now 4 editors (including myself as nom) are in favour of Disambiguation, and 2 editors are in favour of Keep, while nobody is in favour of outright Deletion or a Redirect anymore. Just want to note that, because the latter two are the only options I suggested in my original rationale above. NLeeuw (talk) 08:52, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

• @Reywas92: I see you've just turned it into a redirect to Caribbean. I'm not opposed to that outcome, but isn't this a bit of a premature move after I have just initiated this AfD? NLeeuw (talk) 21:32, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

  Oops, I was using the easy-merge tool and had the page up since before your nomination so I didn't even see that when I saved it five minutes later! I undid that and will vote redirect to Caribbean. The one source is an analysis of the breadth of terms that can apply to this region, all of which can have different geographic and political definitions, so I see no basis for a separate article as if this were a distinct or well-defined concept. The see also links for the US program use the political definition that includes some non-bordering countries, so this is pointless. Reywas92^Talk 21:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

  Haha I already thought that might have been going on as we acted almost at the same time. No worries. :) NLeeuw (talk) 10:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

  In light of the comment below I would also support disambiguation However, I am still strongly opposed to keeping the page. Even with the added information, I don't see the need for stand-alone article. The origin of the term for the Caribbean Basin Initiative belongs on that article, and the rest is just generically about the region. Yes, the term is used – inconsistently, including for this Initiative and as described by [24] – but even if Basin countries are related in various ways however defined, a separate page isn't warranted. Reywas92^Talk 21:33, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep Not OR or SYNTH - in fact, a very easy WP:BEFORE search as the defined area is discussed by many books and scholarly articles dating back years including [25] [26] [27] [28]. These just scratch the surface - there was a history section at one point that was deleted for lack of sourcing, wondering if restoring and sourcing it would be a good idea. SportingFlyer T·C 22:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
• Turn into a disambiguation page to disambiguate w/ Caribbean, Caribbean Basin Initiative, Caribbean Basin Economic Recovery Act of 1983, Caribbean Basin Trade Partnership Act and Caribbean Basin Trade and Partnership Act. It's clear from the vast array of reliable sources and uses that "Caribbean Basin" is a generic term for the Caribbean Sea and countries in the region. The article as it stands relies on one source to separate out Barbados and the Bahamas as not part of the Caribbean Basin, but most other uses include all regional countries in the term and treat it as an equivalent term to "Caribbean region." It would be original research for an article to rely on a single (and tendentious) definition to somehow conjure "Caribbean Basin" into existence as a separate term. My reason for turning this into a disambig page rather than a redirect is to cover the various U.S. government laws and initiatives employing the term (and that include the Bahamas and Barbados, natch). Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

  Disambiguate per Dclemens' sensible reasoning and a lot of the competing definitions which may lead to a WP:POVFORK with Caribbean if this is not done. I think that's the first time I've gotten to vote that in an AfD. BrigadierG (talk) 01:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

  A DP might be the best solution here. I wouldn't be opposed to that outcome either. NLeeuw (talk) 10:03, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

• Keep : I've expanded the article with reliable sources. Based on the sources I've seen which I've added to the article (see article), this appears to be a specific geographical region, which in part, but not exclusively, is determined by political and economic considerations. In someway, similar to the Middle Belt, and other regional articles, etc. The subject is notable in its own right, with plenty of WP:RS discussing the topic in dephth, and maybe we should be mindful not to confuse the general reader between a geographic region/basin (which are notable), and an economic or trade program like Caribbean Basin Initiative, instituted by statute law like Caribbean Basin Economic Recovery Act of 1983. There is a huge difference between these and perhaps we should be mindful not to lump this article to other articles which would be wrong, and might also confuse the reader. In my view, to merge with another article would be like discussing two separate unrelated subjects in the same article. In the end, it may push the community to have to create the same article which was previously created and deleted, just to separate the two topics, and would send us back to square one. I haven't even scratched the surface, but from the sources I've seen so far, I believe this article can be expanded even further. On a side note, would the nom kindly transclude this AfD to to alert Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Africa so that Wikipedia:WikiProject African diaspora are also automatically alerted? African Diaspora get their notifications from Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Ethnic groups or Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Africa. Many thanks.Tamsier (talk)

  These additions don't deal with the fact that there is no consensus among the sources on what defines the "Caribbean Basin" versus just the "Caribbean." As the current revision of the article notes, the US Caribbean Basin Initiative excluded Cuba and Nicaragua. One sentence says "This means countries like Barbados and The Bahamas, which are culturally and politically Caribbean, are not included.[2]" (And the list in the article does indeed exclude them.) Later on, a statement in the article says "It is customary to include Bermuda and the Bahamian Archipelago within this region, although they are located in the Atlantic Ocean outside the arc, since they share the cultural and historical legacy of the countries of the Lesser Antilles." So what is it? The more the article gets developed, the more it will just turn into a content fork of Caribbean. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:42, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

  Excellent observation. NLeeuw (talk) 19:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

  Dclemens1971, I think that is a matter for the reliable secondary sources to decide, not for us to define it, as to try and do so here would constitute WP:OR. We report on what the reliable secondary sources say with respect to weight, and leave it to the general reader to make up their mind. If we go down the route of trying to define it here, that would constitute WP:OR. The differences in definition as per sources, however, should not be grounds for deletion. In situations like that, we simply report per weight as per Wiki guidelines.Tamsier (talk) 20:09, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

  But if the reliable sources don't even have a common agreement on what "Caribbean Basin" means or if it's different from "Caribbean," why bother having an article about it? Do we need an article to debate the semantics of the term "Caribbean Basin," because that's what we have now. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:34, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

  I think there is general agreement. Part of the problem is that the agreement doesn't match what's currently in the actual article. SportingFlyer T·C 23:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

  • But this still isn't really a "specific geographical region" in that the geographical area/first sentence isn't even accurate in most cases. The book you added "The Caribbean Basin: An International History" does include Barbados and the Bahamas, as well as El Salvador. Certainly we can acknowledge that Caribbean island nations are historically and politically related to the Central American and northern South American countries, but I don't feel like we need a stand-alone article to say that. We could draftify the page, but I'm not sure what sort of expansion you say can be done actually has to be done here – and not somewhere like History of Central America or History of the Caribbean – that wouldn't just be duplicative or an unnecessary content fork. Reywas92^Talk 21:33, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

    But why does there need to be a specific definition in order to show notability? Why can't we say some sources say X and some say Y and have it be notable? Why is an editing decision coming in the way of notability? SportingFlyer T·C 06:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

    It's less about notability and more about the WP:CONTENTFORK issue. If the article really encompasses any number of countries associated with the Caribbean region and/or the Caribbean sea, then the term should disambiguate/redirect to "Caribbean." That covers the territory. We only need a freestanding article if there is evidence that the term "Caribbean Basin" means something specific and different from "Caribbean." Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:15, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

    I liked reading this link from the article. It comes from an ecological perspective but the point is that many different organizations, discliplines, or analysts may use several names with different and inconsistent definitions for the region and subregions. You could make a big complex Euler diagram out of them. But just because each of these names is used in depth does not mean there's something more to say that justifies the need for a separate article. So sure, maybe Caribbean Basin is notable and I am making an editing decision – there's just not enough to say that this is needed as another article (WP:NOPAGE). Perhaps a page similar to Terminology of the British Isles could break out the differences when sources say X or Y. Reywas92^Talk 17:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

    Such a terminology article only seems warranted when a simple disambiguation page is not enough to point readers to what they are looking for. I think a DP is the proper place to start. NLeeuw (talk) 21:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

    I still don't really agree - there's lots of scholarly and international sources which use the term "Caribbean Basin" and the book Politics and Development in the Caribbean Basin: Central America and the Caribbean in the New World Order (Grugel, 2015) discusses how the term was used by the United States government in the 1980s to give a specific geographic definition to an area where "Caribbean" is not necessarily a specific geographic identifier. That book also notes El Salvador is included in spite not touching the Caribbean, as confirmed by this paper. There's something geographically notable here - it's not just a superfluous term. SportingFlyer T·C 23:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

• Comment As noted above in my earlier comment, it is outside the remit of Wikipedia editors to try to define terms which are not already defined or covered by reliable secondary sources. Our notability guideline is very clear as to what deserves a stand-alone article and what doesn't. In my view, as the one who expanded the article and added other reliable sources, I believe this article meets WP:GNG. Our policy on WP:WEIGHT makes it absolutely clear as to how to give weight to sources with differing views. The issue of weight is not a ground for deletion as noted above. The content fork argument does not apply here, because the scope is different from the other articles mentioned by other editors. This article focuses more on a particular geographical region/basin which in part, but not exclusively is motivated by economic/trade, instituted by US law. I contend that, moving this article to another would end up causing more harm to that article and confuses the reader. Sending a fully sourced notable article to a disambiguation page not only defeats the purpose of our disambiguation process, but also cheats the general reader looking for this article. Of course the article can be expanded even further and much better, but that is not a ground for deletion, neither is variation in definition which can be resolved by adopting out weight policy.Tamsier (talk) 02:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  I appreciate your efforts, but I don't think your additions have made the term "Caribbean Basin" as such any more worthy of a stand-alone article separate from Caribbean and Caribbean Sea.

  • You've not changed the definition in the opening line either, so let's do a close-reading comparison:

  "Caribbean Basin" according to Caribbean Basin: the Caribbean Sea and any territories in or touching the Caribbean Sea.

  "Caribbean" acccording to Caribbean: a subregion of the Americas that includes the Caribbean Sea and its islands, some of which are surrounded by the Caribbean Sea and some of which border both the Caribbean Sea and the North Atlantic Ocean; the nearby coastal areas on the mainland are sometimes also included in the region.

  "Caribbean" acccording to Caribbean Sea: The entire Caribbean Sea area, the West Indies' numerous islands, and adjacent coasts are collectively known as the Caribbean.

  I still don't see a difference.

  • The "Geographic area" section you added is wholly WP:UNSOURCED.
  • The sentence about the Caribbean Basin Initiative indicates that the 1983 U.S. govt law excluded Cuba and Nicaragua from the definition, so the 1983 U.S. govt law cannot be used to support the definition or the "Caribbean Basin region" altname. It is also at odds with your WP:UNSOURCED "Geographical area" section, which explicitly includes Cuba.
  • The Mount/Randall source is invoked to say the Caribbean became "an American lake". But if "the Caribbean" is something else than "the Caribbean Basin", this whole sentence is irrelevant and out of place in this article, or very sloppily added.
  • The Pastor source is similarly invoked to say the USA never saw itself as a Caribbean nation, and ...all the nations in and around the Caribbean Sea seemed to have..., which is irrelevant as well if those words mean something else than "Caribbean Basin". If they do mean the same, then you have just proven our case that "Caribbean Basin" does not merit a stand-alone article, but is just a synonym of "Caribbean", namely: the Caribbean Sea, its islands and the continental coasts of the Caribbean Sea.

  I rest my case. NLeeuw (talk) 16:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

  It's clearly not a synonym - it's a specific geostrategic definition. I've added additional sources to the article and cleaned up the lede to note that El Salvador is generally included, which completely negates your argument, and I have not yet included the footnote from this article which clearly defines why this term is of practical importance. SportingFlyer T·C 03:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

  It's a specific geostrategic definition for a particular source. Quote from page v, note 1 of the Rand paper you linked: "Throughout this study the term 'Caribbean Basin' will be defined as the geographic area of the Caribbean Sea, including all the rim islands, all littoral states (from Mexico to Venezuela), and three countries not geographically contiguous to the Caribbean: El Salvador in Central America, and Guyana and Suriname on the Atlantic (see map facing p.1). Thus used, 'Caribbean Basin' denotes a specific geostrategic region that has special importance for the United States. This differs from the reference used in the Caribbean Basin Initiative, which has an economic focus on the smaller, less-developed countries of the region, thereby excluding Mexico, Colombia, and Venezuela." That source is highlighting the fact that there is no single definition of "Caribbean Basin" and choosing one for its own research purposes. This gets to the point that @Nederlandse Leeuw and @Reywas92 and I have been making: this is a widely used term that means different things in different contexts but that generally aligns with the regional definition of "Caribbean." Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

  Well said, Dclemens1971. I think that attempts to find more sources on "Caribbean Basin", although certainly done in good faith, have so far amounted to little more than WP:REFBOMB of the "lacking significant coverage" i.e. brief namechecking type (no. #1), "verify random facts" type (no. #2), and "name-drop" type (no. #4). There is no good case for a stand-alone article (nor for outright deletion, but I have given up that proposal already), but there is a good case for a disambiguation page now. NLeeuw (talk) 13:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

  No, these arguments are completely ridiculous - something is notable if it's been covered significantly by multiple sources, and many, many different sources use the definition to discuss an otherwise arbitrary geography. There's absolutely a good case for a stand-alone article - the article covers a term used to define a specific region, used in scholarly articles, that does not overlap any other term, and the books and articles that have been written on this area absolutely demonstrate that. That is what notability is - there's no WP:NOT. You just don't like it. SportingFlyer T·C 21:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

  Oh, I always love a good article on a term or concept that hasn't been properly covered elsewhere. I write such articles all the time (or at least, I try to). I'm open to "Caribbean Basin" meriting a stand-alone article, but I'm afraid I do not see it happening based on the arguments and sources provided on the one hand, and our policies and guidelines on the other. NLeeuw (talk) 22:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

  There's no policy and guideline which excludes this, and it passes GNG as a regional geographic definition, including in sources not yet cited such as the New Third World, which contains a chapter on Caribbean Basin countries, again noting the inclusion of countries such as El Salvador. The arguments for deletion so far assume it's a generic term, which it is clearly not, and dismiss the sourcing. SportingFlyer T·C 22:52, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

  There's no policy and guideline which excludes this Well, I started this AfD by invoking WP:OR/WP:SYNTH, and WP:UNSOURCED, and later WP:REFBOMB. Subsequently, others have invoked WP:POVFORK, WP:CONTENTFORK and WP:NOPAGE. Our arguments are based on solid policies and guidelines.

  (For the sake of completeness, you and Tamsier are the only ones arguing for a keep, invoking WP:BEFORE, WP:GNG, WP:WEIGHT and WP:NOT. Of course, the quantity of policies and guidelines invoked does not necessarily say anything about their quality and relevance for this AfD.) NLeeuw (talk) 08:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

  WP:OR doesn't apply since this isn't original research, and WP:SYNTH doesn't apply since we are stating what the sources say after a bit of cleanup. There are only 11 sources in the article at the moment. WP:POVFORK doesn't apply because Caribbean Basin and the Caribbean are two separate concepts. There's no good reason to delete this - it's a now decently sourced specific geographic concept. SportingFlyer T·C 23:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

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The result was speedy keep‎. This needs to go to WP:MfD not AfD. (non-admin closure) Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:39, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Evolutionary Tinkering

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There's another article with the same title and same content. So requesting to delete this page. Evolutionary_tinkering iVickyChoudhary (talk) 07:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of Little League World Series announcers

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Also, this list is entirely unsourced per WP:RS. SpacedFarmer (talk) 07:25, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of Big 12 Championship Game broadcasters

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; nearly all of these are about the game or are broadcasting schedules with one leading back to its homepage. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 07:20, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of Division I FBS broadcasters

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS that is not a dead link; tem of those are WP:PRIMARY to teams, two of those are 404 and two are staff roster pages; two of those are about announcers and one leads to a home page. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this nor have anything to with this list. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 07:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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New Capital Sports Hall

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Small sports stadium lacking in depth coverage in reliable independent sources. Mccapra (talk) 07:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep What do you mean with small sports? Handball is the second biggest team sport after football in the world. For your information the WC 2019 which was played in this hall hat at cumulative TV audience of 1.2 billion. Now to the hall if you google the Arabic name "الصالة الرياضية بالعاصمة الإدارية الجديدة" there are some stories like: [29], [30], [31], [32] 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 09:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

I mean that the hall itself is small, not that the sports it hosts are small. As to the sources you’ve provided above, none of them offers in depth coverage of this particular hall. They just confirm it exists, that it seats 7500-8000 people and it’s part of the larger Olympic complex. They are either about the handball matches or about the Olympic city. The sports complex as a whole looks notable and therefore potentially a redirect target, but it doesn’t seem to have been written yet. Mccapra (talk) 14:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

List of ReliaQuest Bowl broadcasters

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources that is not a dead link per WP:RS; one is a WP:PRIMARY of one of the teams, three of those are about the Bowl games in general, one is about the BCS National Championship. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 07:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of Sugar Bowl broadcasters

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS; one is about an announcer, each one of the others is about the Bowl games, with this being given a passing mention. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 06:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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List of Texas Bowl broadcasters

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list that is fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. Of the sources per WP:RS, all but one is a press release, one of which is a 404. That source that is not a press release is a dead link. All the ESPN press releases is about the Bowl games, not just this. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 06:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Cake Mania (series)

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The first game is absolutely notable, but I can't find notability for the series. The page has been without valid sources since 2010. It's best off mentioned on the page of the first game, i.e. in a "Legacy" section. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:02, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom. I agree, the first game is definitely notable. The other games, not so much. The second game has some articles from Pocket Gamer [33] [34] [35] [36] and a preview from IGN [37] and this one [38] (technically a reliable source according to WP:VG/S). The sources for every game just go downhill from here because all I found for the third game was [39]. The idea to put it under a 'Legacy' section in the article for the first game is great. Props to nom. MKsLifeInANutshell (talk) 15:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Grand Mosque of Bucharest

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This is a cancelled proposal. Wikipedia is not a repository for unrealized projects without lasting coverage. Aintabli (talk) 05:48, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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That's not the best reason for deletion. The tangible topic that exists is the controversy around the plan. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:14, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

I said without lasting coverage, which addresses that. If this proposal is still discussed years after its cancellation, please let me know. I was unable to find any mention of it past its cancellation in 2018. The Romanian version of this article is even more lacking. Aintabli (talk) 06:20, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

The closest thing to a keep I can go for at this point is a merge unless someone comes with a better reason to keep. Aintabli (talk) 06:24, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

A merge with what? Iskandar323 (talk) 11:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Islam in Romania for example. Aintabli (talk) 15:43, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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Tracefs

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Fails WP:NSOFTWARE. Only significant coverage (ie. not press release republication or forum post etc.) is a paper by the authors of the software. https://www.usenix.org/conference/fast-04/tracefs-file-system-trace-them-all Jonathan Deamer (talk) 05:30, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 07:26, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: per nomination, clearly fails WP:NSOFTWARE, as well as WP:GNG. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 14:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Standard telegraph level

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Another WP:DICTDEF. I couldn't even find any usage of this phrase outside dictionary definitions. Not sure if there is a reasonable redirect target; maybe it could be moved to Wiktionary. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Soft delete - I've had time not to research this after deprodding it and have not found sufficient sourcing to establish notability or even provide additional context to what is being presented here. There are no important incoming links so deleting without prejudice is unlikely to create any issues for readers or editors. I am unable to identify any WP:ATDs. ~Kvng (talk) 13:27, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

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Reproduction speed

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Per WP:NOTDICT. Since this term seems to be used in several different contexts, it can redirect to Reproduction (disambiguation). Helpful Raccoon (talk) 00:56, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Generation time. A quick Google search of "replication speed" focuses on the term's use in microbial genetics, highlighting that a telecommunications-focused article on this term would be inappropriate. Even adding the word telecommunications to the query returns very few sites using the term, mostly with an entirely different use as the RPM of turntable discs. However, given that the term is mostly used in a biological application. I would support a redirect to Generation time over Reproduction (disambiguation), as none of the articles on the latter disambig page appear to contain wikilinks to former article. BluePenguin18 🐧 ( 💬 ) 07:35, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Reproduction (disambiguation). It may be more likely that someone would search for this term in the context of biological reproduction or replication, but the content is clearly intended to be for telecommunications. I could also live with a delete, though. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:36, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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2024 A-League Women finals series

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Almost all of the article is already shown in the 'parent' article 2023–24 A-League Women, aside from a separate map with the subset of the teams that made the finals, so there is scant additional relevant information in this Fork to warrant a stand-alone article. The level of detail is equivalent to that shown in articles of previous seasons of the A-League Women Matilda Maniac (talk) 23:33, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

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Pedant

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Dictionary definition with etymology. Violates WP:NOTDICT. - Skipple ☎ 03:25, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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Keep - I don't wish to be, er. pedantic here, but the criterion for notability is not whether the article is poorly-cited, but whether there are suitable sources out there in the world. Pedantry is unfortunately definitely a notable topic. Sources include the famous essay Of Pedantry by Michel de Montaigne, alongside a mass of modern research papers on a wide variety of aspects of pedantry. A good newspaper article is Why do pedants pedant? in The Guardian. There's plenty more out there. The article needs to be rewritten, but that's not a matter for AfD. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:29, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

This feels... pedantic... but I agree with your argument yet think it supports a move to Pedantry. Orange sticker (talk) 16:29, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

That would make good sense, yes. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Delete as per nomination. This is just a dictionary definition with a couple of cites. Per WP:!, it needs expansion to be useful which might be possible. If someone does this then perhaps reconsider.Ldm1954 (talk) 07:54, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

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Lovari (musician)

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Doesn't seem to have any notable or significant credits. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 03:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

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References for Lovari on Wheel Of Fortune (2023): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV8rMTIQ2C0

https://bobbymgsk.wordpress.com/2023/02/01/wheel-of-fortune-1-31-23/

References for Lovari on Judge Jerry Springer (2022):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U78Iy9fFQkc

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt25965282/releaseinfo/

https://followmy.tv/episodes/2487792/judge-jerry/3x104/103

References for Lovari on Match Game (2019):

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/match-game-season-four-viewer-votes/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5672484/characters/nm2102281

References for Lovari in The Barn 2 (2022):

https://dailydead.com/horror-highlights-8-found-dead-the-harbinger-the-barn-part-ii/

https://hellhorror.com/movies/the-barn-part-ii-movie-7804.html

https://podcasts.apple.com/es/podcast/trhs-random-chat-with-lovari/id1539578136?i=1000641962062

https://getoutmag.com/lovari-5/ 98.109.154.93 (talk) 04:47, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

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Ville Seivo

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WP:BEFORE yields nothing of use. Only film databases and user generated content. Printed coverage in foreign language is unlikely, as the subject seems to have played minor roles in not many major works. However, if they exist, one may list so. X (talk) 03:19, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Bahad (film)

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Fails WP:NFILM and WP:GNG; 8 of the 10 sources in the article are literally unreliable (Facebook, YouTube, etc.), and no significant coverage in reliable sources. I'm not sure if this is reliable either; this may be notable but a passing mention isn't going to establish notability of the film. I couldn't find any other sources that try to establish notability for this film, either. Additionally, I wouldn't oppose a redirect to List of Philippine films of 2019#October–December. Thanks! :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 02:40, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to List_of_Philippine_films_of_2019#October–December: It is listed there with the Mindano Times ref. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 07:56, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to List_of_Philippine_films_of_2019#October–December per User:Mushy Yank and WP:ATD --Lenticel ^(talk) 09:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Battle of Michni

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Zero sources/references at all. Noorullah (talk) 02:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Battle of Mangal

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Extreme reliance on WP:RAJ sources, no reliable/good secondary sources. Noorullah (talk) 02:09, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Magdalena Hinterdobler

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This soprano has not received significant coverage in independent sources, bar this one article.

Citations 2, 3, and 7 are from institutions with which Hinterdobler has been associated. The rest provide insignificant coverage, often not more than a half-sentence.

As there is only one source which is both independent and provides significant coverage, the relevant notability criteria (WP:BASIC/WP:MUSICBIO) are not met. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:35, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. I spent about an hour trying to find WP:SIGCOV prior to this being taken to AFD. You can see my comments on the nominator's talk page as we discussed this before taking it to AFD. I looked at over two dozen critical reviews, and while there are many reviews of the operas she has been in, she is only mentioned in passing or not at all in those reviews. Likewise on reviews of her recordings. The most we get is a single sentence (two at most; and those are rare) with a general critique of her performance. For example, The Guardian review only mentions her name in the title list of leading singers but never actually talks about her contribution to the recording. This is not in-depth. The only in-depth independent source is the first source cited, Opern News magazine article. If a couple more sources of this latter kind are found that would prove WP:MUSICBIO and WP:SIGCOV are met. Please ping me if sources with in-depth independent coverage are located and I will gladly change my vote to keep.4meter4 (talk) 00:59, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:SINGER #6 "having performed two lead roles at major opera houses." -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes there is that SNG, but I honestly think that we need to deprecate that in the same way that the RFC on WP:NSPORTS deprecated many of its similar SNG language. We really shouldn't be building articles on singers that can't meet WP:SIGCOV for verifiability reasons; particularly on BLPS per Wikipedia:BLPSOURCES.4meter4 (talk) 04:31, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Weak keep. I noticed that one of the two cited references for her Eva in Die Meistersänger, in Online Merker, includes 3 or 4 lines on her performance, both vocally and in characterisation, calling it "ein starkes Plus" (a definite plus). A search for other reviews in the same publication yielded other critiques of a similar length:
  • "debutierte als Chrysothemis glanzvoll ... Das wird eine große Rolle für sie werden!" (made a glittering debut as Chrysothemis ... This is going to be a major role for her!)—we cite this role only from the Frankfurt Opera's summary professional bio
  • noting her stagecraft as Susanna in Le Nozze but "vokal wirkt sie an diesem Abend strapaziert" (vocally, this evening she gave an impression of strain)—we don't mention this role
  • a review of her Dorella in Das Liebesverbot in 2013 that she may want to forget, "quält sie sich ohne zuverlässigen Stimmsitz und ohne tragende Resonanz durch Wagners Noten" (tortures herself through Wagner's notes without reliable pitch or sustained resonance)—we don't mention this role either.

There are also briefer mentions that are not mere listings of who sang which role: "eine resolute, selbstbewusste Eva" (a resolute, self-confident Eva); "auch die 'kleinen' Walküren ... Magdalena Hinterdobler, die auch die Gutrune sang, ... sangen ansprechend" (the 'lesser' valkyries too, ... Magdalena Hinterdobler, who also sang Gutrune, ... were equal to their roles)—this compressed Ring is also not in the article. I suspect there are similar short reviews of her performances in other magazines and newspapers, and the article isn't reflecting that coverage because of a desire to focus on her leading roles, use English-language sources where possible, and / or avoid negative coverage. From the point of view of notability, however, I believe that mass of small stuff about her, together with at least one extended biographical article (I don't see the Frankfurter Allgemeine cited anywhere; has anyone searched there for coverage of her joining the company?), puts her over the top. Yngvadottir (talk) 02:55, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Keep we have enough for WP:BASIC. Artists are known for their work and this soprano also meets WP:SINGER. Lightburst (talk) 14:13, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

@Lightburst can you please identify more than one source with "significant coverage" to meet WP:BASIC. The whole point of the nominator is that there is only one (not multiple sources) with significant independent coverage. Both Yngvadottir and myself have confirmed this is the case which is why I voted delete. Yngvadottir was able to locate several reviews mentioning the subject in one or two sentences but specifically stated they didn't contain significant coverage. Asserting that BASIC is met is just not true with the current sources in evidence. You are the only commenter here asserting BASIC is met, and you have provided no evidence to substantiate that argument. Basic states, "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published[4] secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other,[5] and independent of the subject.[6] Please produce a second source with significant coverage. 4meter4 (talk) 16:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

The next section after BASIC reads People are likely to be notable if they meet any of the following standards." and A person who does not meet these additional criteria may still be notable under Wikipedia:Notability. You do not need coverage to prove notability, you can meet a subject specific guideline instead. Dream Focus 16:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes. You don't need to repeat yourself Dream Focus. I am aware of the SNG guideline. That still doesn't change the fact that BASIC isn't met which is why you yourself made an argument based on criteria 6 of WP:SINGER. That's fine if that is the WP:CONSENUS opinion. I personally am of the opinion that criteria 6 of SINGER is a poor predictor of notability, runs afoul of WP:BLPSOURCES policy, and is so subjective in its meaning and interpretation that it isn't a well crafted policy. After this AFD closes, regardless of the outcome, I am considering creating an RFC along the lines of Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Sports notability which deprecated similar SNG language for athletes. In my opinion BASIC should be our guide. We need at least two sources with in-depth independent coverage to build an article on any BLP in my opinion to meet the spirit of our policy guidelines at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons.4meter4 (talk) 16:31, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

My rationale stands and we disagree so please observe WP:COAL and I will do the same. Lightburst (talk) 18:24, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Note to closer. Please consider the evidence and strength of the arguments in your close. I strongly urge you to ignore/overrule arguments made without supporting evidence.4meter4 (talk) 16:13, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
• Keep The subject specific guidelines exist for a reason. Someone can be notable for their accomplishments, not just for media coverage of them. WP:SINGER #6 Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03s64z1 distinguished Austrian pianist Rudolf Buchbinder, in London for a rare appearance at the Royal Festival Hall, and the rising star conductor Lionel Bringuier. Pianist Mark Swartzentruber will perform live on the show, ahead of his concert at Kings Place tomorrow. So she is in an ensemble that contains a distinguished pianists, a conductor called a "rising star" in an opera review, and a guy with his own concerts and notable accomplishments. http://markswartzentruber.com/biography/ She was on an album that got a long review. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/feb/14/bruch-die-loreley-review-andrew-clements She is a member of the Frankfurt ensemble, a notable ensemble which she has performed at major opera houses with. https://oper-frankfurt.de/en/ensemble/ensemble/?detail=1256 So a singer can be notable for having performed two lead roles at major opera houses. She performed as Elisabetta in Verdi's Don Carlos Dream Focus 16:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. Just added another RS and performance. Gamaliel (talk) 19:03, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Aurat (TV series)

AfDs for this article:

• Articles for deletion/Aurat (TV series)

Aurat (TV series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The articles doesn't cite WP:RS and doesn't meet WP: Notability, hence should be deleted Sameeerrr (talk) 20:28, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Santoshi Maa – Sunayein Vrat Kathayein

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Santoshi Maa – Sunayein Vrat Kathayein (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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The article lacks WP:SIGCOV and WP: Notability and clearly doesn't meet the criteria of WP:GNG therefore should be deleted}} Sameeerrr (talk) 20:40, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Templates for discussion

May 11

Template:Sawankhalok Line

• Template:Sawankhalok Line (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant with Template:State Railway of Thailand Railway Stations. Jonashtand (talk) 17:59, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Template:1930s in music (UK)

• Template:1930s in music (UK) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused navigation template. Gonnym (talk) 12:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Files for discussion

May 11

File:VaganovaStudetnts1.jpg

File:VaganovaStudetnts1.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mrlopez2681 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This looks like a screen grab of some kind. Copyright issues aside, the quality of this photo is poor. Image is not used anywhere. Ixfd64 (talk) 19:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Categories for discussion

May 11

Category:MSI nettops

• Propose deleting Category:MSI nettops (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only one article in category. Upmerge to relevant categories. Gonnym (talk) 20:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Rihard Jakopič

• Propose deleting Category:Rihard Jakopič (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Delete for now: This eponymous category only has the artist and a pavilion that is named after them. Such a category, with two pages is unhelpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 20:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Keep for now: categories like redirects are WP:CHEAP. Maybe the category will be populated in the future. Do you see no prospect for expansion of this right now unhelpful category? Awesome Aasim 21:21, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Coaches Kerala Cricket Team 2023

• Propose deleting Category:Coaches Kerala Cricket Team 2023 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: One-entry category for a non-defining characteristic. We do not exhaustively subcategorize cricket coaches for the individual year they worked, particularly given that sports teams normally only have one coach at any given time, and thus each category would have only one entry (or perhaps two if a coach got fired and replaced partway through the season, but never, ever enough to actually surpass minimum size requirements for categories). And even if this category were justified, this wouldn't be its correct name anyway. Bearcat (talk) 19:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Cartoonists by country templates

• Propose deleting Category:Cartoonists by country templates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Only contains 1 template which is already within Category:Comics creator navigational boxes. – Fayenatic London 21:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

• If not deleted, then rename to Category:Cartoonists templates which could also hold Template:Underground comix cartoonists, Template:Cartoonists from Kerala, Template:Cartoonist-stub and its 3 related national templates, and Template:Seth (cartoonist). These are the only templates with cartoonist in the name, although there may be other navboxes for comics creators who are more specifically cartoonists. – Fayenatic London 21:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
• Renaming and populating isn't a bad idea at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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Category:United States National Recording Registry albums

• Propose deleting Category:United States National Recording Registry albums (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: The same rationale as last time: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 April 28#Category:United States National Recording Registry albums. I still see no reason for this category to be active and it is still redudant to Category:United States National Recording Registry recordings. Even if all the album articles were listed under the United States National Recording Registry albums category, that would just leave songs and other miscellaneous records under the United States National Recording Registry recordings category. It is really a crime to have all the inducted recordings under one category? QuasyBoy (talk) 18:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Good point Espngeek (talk) 18:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• If not kept, at least merge to Category:United States National Recording Registry recordings rather than delete. Nominator does not make clear what is wrong with Category:United States National Recording Registry albums though. It is not redundant per se, it is simply more specific. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

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Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits

• Propose renaming Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits to Category:Former Jesuit universities and colleges

Nominator's rationale: The current name is not only awkward and not parallel to the name of the related category for current Jesuit institutions ("Jesuit universities and colleges") but its meaning is also unclear. ElKevbo (talk) 18:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

If someone has a (legitimate) concern that "Former Jesuit" is also ambiguous - does it mean "a university or college that was once a Jesuit institution but is no longer a Jesuit institution" or "a Jesuit university or college that is now closed" ? - then "Formerly Jesuit universities and colleges" would resolve that ambiguity. The category does currently include institutions in both of those situations so this may be important. ElKevbo (talk) 20:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:People of South Asian descent

• Propose merging Category:People of South Asian descent to Category:People of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:American people of South Asian descent to Category:American people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Australian people of South Asian descent to Category:Australian people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:British people of South Asian descent to Category:British people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Canadian people of South Asian descent to Category:Canadian people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Chinese people of South Asian descent to Category:Chinese people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Emirati people of South Asian descent to Category:Emirati people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Filipino people of South Asian descent to Category:Filipino people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Hong Kong people of South Asian descent to Category:Hong Kong people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Indian people of South Asian descent to Category:Indian people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Iraqi people of South Asian descent to Category:Iraqi people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Israeli people of South Asian descent to Category:Israeli people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Japanese people of South Asian descent to Category:Japanese people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Kenyan people of South Asian descent to Category:Kenyan people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Kuwaiti people of South Asian descent to Category:Kuwaiti people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Lebanese people of South Asian descent to Category:Lebanese people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Malaysian people of South Asian descent to Category:Malaysian people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:New Zealand people of South Asian descent to Category:New Zealand people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Nigerian people of South Asian descent to Category:Nigerian people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Omani people of South Asian descent to Category:Omani people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Pakistani people of South Asian descent‎ to Category:Pakistani people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Qatari people of South Asian descent to Category:Qatari people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Russian people of South Asian descent to Category:Russian people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Saudi Arabian people of South Asian descent‎ to Category:Saudi Arabian people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Singaporean people of South Asian descent to Category:Singaporean people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:South African people of South Asian descent to Category:South African people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Thai people of South Asian descent to Category:Thai people of Asian descent
• Propose merging Category:Turkish people of South Asian descent‎ to Category:Turkish people of Asian descent

Nominator's rationale: The boundaries of South Asia are not well-defined. Beyond the central regions of the Indian Empire, there is significant inconsistency in which additional countries are considered part of South Asia. Clear demarcations—whether geographical, geopolitical, socio-cultural, economic, or historical—between South Asia and other Asian regions are lacking. Aldij (talk) 16:05, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Strong oppose: Asia is a huge continent. I see this as creating more confusion when making categories than having them separate. The geographical boundaries can be debated but it does not change that some reliable sources including sources close to the author refer to the subject as of "South Asian" descent. Awesome Aasim 21:23, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Carib people

• Propose deleting Category:Carib people
• Propose deleting Category:British people of Carib descent
• Propose deleting Category:Dominica people of Carib descent
• Propose deleting Category:French people of Carib descent
• Propose deleting Category:Trinidad and Tobago people of Carib descent
• Propose deleting Category:Venezuelan people of Carib descent

Nominator's rationale The term "Carib" is ambiguous as it can be used to refer to either the Kalinago (Island Caribs) or the Kalina (Mainland Caribs). Despite both being commonly called "Caribs", the Kalinago and the Kalina are different peoples with different languages and cultures. There isn't a single "Carib" group encompassing both the Kalina and Kalinago. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 13:55, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:20th-century Algerian photographers

• Propose splitting Category:20th-century Algerian photographers to Category:Algerian photographers and Category:20th-century photographers

Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. This category is only has one person in it and doesn't help navigation. Mason (talk) 04:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Single merge to Category:20th-century photographers, the article is about someone who spent his childhood in Algeria but as a photographer he was not related to Algeria. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:39, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Students in Mauritius

• Propose merging Category:Student protests in Mauritius to Category:Student protests in Africa and Category:Protests in Mauritius
• Propose deleting Category:Students in Mauritius (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one page in this category, which is unhelpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 01:54, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:49, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Redirects for discussion

May 11

Draft:TPT

• Draft:TPT → The Powder Toy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Draft-to-mainspace redirect with no clear reason to exist. This isn't a leftover of any page-moving history, but was just created a couple of days ago as a redirect right from the jump, whereas we already have a disambiguation page at the mainspace title TPT. My best guess is that this was created in an attempt to render the game into the primary topic by bypassing the dab page — but even if the creator (an anonymous IP) actually wants to assert that the video game should be primary topic for TPT, using draftspace this way isn't the process for doing that. Bearcat (talk) 20:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Trampampoline

• Trampampoline → Trampoline  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

WP:FANCRUFT I assume it originates from the Simpsons Okmrman (talk) 18:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Cedar Ridge Middle School

• Cedar Ridge Middle School → Decatur City Schools  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete for no mention at the target, and therefore confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• This is a former article that was WP:BLARed in 2014 per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. The mention in the target article was removed in 2019 and it's no longer listed on the school district's website, because it was renamed. A mention could be added back to the target article, and the school is mentioned at Austin High School (Alabama). A different school of the same name is mentioned Oregon Trail School District, but I don't know if that's enough to justify disambiguation. - Eureka Lott 19:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

RXJ2129-z8HeII

• RXJ2129-z8HeII → Stellar population#Population III stars  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Does not seem to be mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:19, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Population 0

• Population 0 → Stellar population  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Does not appear at the target. Only mention I could find is on Wiktionary at wikt:frozen star. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:18, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Hyperstar

• Hyperstar → Metallicity#Stars  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Hyperstars → Stellar population#Population III stars  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target. For the former, note that Iran Hyper Star also appears to be written without a space on the logo. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:13, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:GREENGABLES

• Wikipedia:GREENGABLES → Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Same reason as Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_1#Wikipedia:LITTLEORPHAN; this was created at the same time as that redirect. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:94B3:D441:1507:1AE8 (talk) 15:02, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Keep: the basis for that nomination seems to have been that the redirect target was confusing(?). What alternate target do you think exists for 'green gables'? jp×g🗯️ 18:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Intel core zero

• Intel core zero → Intel Core#Core i3  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I don't see how this is related to Intel Core i3. — AP 499D25 (talk) 12:28, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Intel core 0

• Intel core 0 → Intel Core#Core i3  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No such thing as "Intel Core 0". I can't see anything about Intel Core i3 being related to this. — AP 499D25 (talk) 12:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Intel Core 4

• Intel Core 4 → Intel Core#Core i5  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There is no such thing as "Intel Core 4". I fail to see how Intel Core i5 is related to this. — AP 499D25 (talk) 12:26, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Template:Transcluded section2

• Template:Transcluded section2 → Template:Excerpt  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

0 transclusions. Unused. Magioladitis (talk) 09:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Template:End U.S. judge succession 2

• Template:End U.S. judge succession 2 → Template:End  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Totally unused and insignificant edit history. Magioladitis (talk) 08:56, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Template:Wide image-2

• Template:Wide image-2 → Template:Wide image  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unused. Never really used. Magioladitis (talk) 08:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Template:Wiki category 2

• Template:Wiki category 2 → Template:Wiki category  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No edit history. Just an incomplete template move. Unused. Magioladitis (talk) 08:46, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Template:Infobox software2

• Template:Infobox software2 → Template:Infobox software  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This has completely been migrated to {{Infobox software}} and has been unused for years Magioladitis (talk) 08:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Denis Cohen

• Denis Cohen → David Cohen (politician)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There are several mentions in Enwiki of people called "Denis Cohen", none notable enough to have their own article, and this redirect's target (father of a Denis Cohen) isn't the primary topic, and obscures those other results: delete. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Technofascism and Techno-fascism

• Technofascism → Internet censorship  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Techno-fascism → Techno-populism#Technocratic populism  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Same terminology, different meanings. Does its meaning depend on the absence/presence of the hyphen, or can it have both meanings either way? – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 21:09, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

• My thought exactly. Either it is a term legitimately attested to in the literature, or else it is POV and should be deleted. Which of these it is, I will leave to smarter contributors than myself – the top Google “hit” points to one of the target Wikipedia articles and the second one points to this RfD itself! (and subsequent “hits” point to academic articles that are way “above my head.”) Bwrs (talk) 05:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

did some looking around and "technofascism" apparently means "fascism that uses technology", not "fascism in technology", so both of those are wrong

either retarget them to fascism or a more fitting target, or cause them to mysteriously disappear delete cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

I imagined "technofascism" being a portmanteau of technocracy and fascism (with the former referring to governance by experts, not technology itself) and that it would refer to a blend of both. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 19:25, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

probably true Bwrs (talk) 22:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

• We should target both to Techno-populism#Technocratic populism. There's a brief bit about it there. I don't know that it has a particular stable meaning, but at least we clearly attribute one of them at that page. -- asilvering (talk) 01:34, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

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Dulah, California

• Dulah, California → Solimar Beach  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Originally this was a stub article that was PRODded by me; another user removed the PROD and converted the article to a redirect. The problem is, the target does not mention Dulah at all, and (per the original stub) Dulah was nothing more than a rail siding located near Solimar. I find it incredibly unlikely that anyone would search for a rail siding, and even if they did, they won't find any information about it here. The article should have been simply deleted and so should this redirect. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 02:45, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: The page was partially merged. I've made an attribution notice in an edit summary at the target to avoid attribution issues in case the page does get deleted. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:29, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I redirected the page because I merged content to Solimar Beach and redirects are cheap. The only other reason to keep the redirect is that if you search for the Solimar Beach community in GNIS, the only entry that comes up is Dulah; that's the only reason I started an article under Dulah in the first place, since Solimar Beach is used on local signage and I started the article way back when I assumed GNIS was reliable. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 04:27, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
• Weak restore article (per WP:PROD, can be taken to AfD if desired), but could this name not be added to the current target? As things stand this is confusing for someone searching this. A7V2 (talk) 00:05, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
  • That should be "per WP:BLAR"! A7V2 (talk) 11:30, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep as a {{r from merge}} to maintain proper attribution. We can revisit the redirect if that situation changes. - Eureka Lott 02:17, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
• Move without redirect to Solimar Beach Colony, the only portion of the source page that was merged to target. Note that we would need to deal with Dulah, CA as well. Jay 💬 17:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

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Colonia Ulpia Traiana

• Colonia Ulpia Traiana → Xanten  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

In 2018, Colonia Ulpia Traiana was redirected to Xanten. The page has had some debates in the history, and another user is now indicating that this should not redirect to Xanten, though they haven't created a page, only a 'See also' section to Vetera. Given that they have reverted the redirect, I figured it should come to RfD. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:33, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Pinging JoNeuen: Instead of reverting the redirect, please discuss here why you think the current redirect target is incorrect and where you think the page should redirect to. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 02:34, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

I have proposed this on the Xanten page. The reason for reverting is that Colonia Ulpia Traiana is an archaeological/historical site, which is only briefly discussed in the Xanten article. JoNeuen (talk) 02:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

• The piped link mentioning Colonia Ulpia Traiana at the current target goes to Ulpia Traiana Sarmizegetusa, so retarget there. There's also Ulpia Traiana, which redirects to Ulpia Traiana Sarmizegetusa. I think both redirects should point to the same place. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 03:01, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi there! So, the link to Vetera was made because I created this article myself. As with Colonia Ulpia Traiana, the Vetera article was redirecting to Xanten before, but I cancelled it because I was working on a translation from the German article. I considered this justified, because I didn't get a response on the Xanten talk page in over a week. Since translating and complementing articles using translation is what I mostly do here, my intention is to do the same with Colonia Ulpia Traiana. The Xanten page is already considered incomplete and these German pages are full of valuable historic and archaeological information that might benefit English speaking Wikipedia. JoNeuen (talk) 22:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

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• How about restoring this version? The editor in question was a suspected sock, but the article was neither deleted nor the edits hidden for socking. Jay 💬 17:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

  Strongly oppose doing that. It wasn't deleted because there was a pre-sock version to revert to. It wasn't revdelled because that's generally not done. We don't reward socking like that. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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Support Jay's proposal to restore the earlier version, and use it as the basis of further development (which would heavily involve translation from de.wiki). Refusing to use the article on the grounds that it would "reward socking" is cutting off WP's nose to spite its face. Furius (talk) 13:19, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

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Snow White remake

• Snow White remake → Snow White (2025 film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Could refer to most films listed at {{Snow White}}, such as Mirror Mirror (film) and Snow White and the Huntsman. There really is no expectation that this redirect references Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937 film) since there have been so many film versions of Snow White that are not Disney-related. Steel1943 (talk) 03:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

• Retarget Snow White (disambiguation), basically everything on that list after the first is a remake by definition. Alternatively, delete due to being vague and unhelpful (deletion is probably my first choice now that I think about it more), Wikipedia is not a search engine to figure out what article people are imagining in their heads by typing "remake" nowadays. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 04:21, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

  On second thought, I'm striking my retarget !vote. Wikipedia is not a search engine, "remake" is not useful in the form of a redirect. Currently it refers to anything on that list, but it's too vague and subjective in doing so (as remake isn't mentioned). Would be ridiculous to have Foo remake target any disambiguation page with multiple pieces of fiction with the same title, so let Google or Wikipedia's search function figure it out. Delete. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 07:08, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

• Weak Retarget to Snow White (disambiguation) as plausible search by a reader. I'm also fine with delete due to the malformed "remake" modifier --Lenticel ^(talk) 05:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget as per Utopes, and tag as R from incomplete disambig. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
• Nominator preference: Delete per above. The existence of the word "remake" and since it makes it so the redirect is not a word-for-word title variation of "Snow White" leave me to believe that the nominated redirect is better deleted than targeting a disambiguation page. Steel1943 (talk) 16:09, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget to Snow White (franchise) that has got hatnotes to anything else the reader may be interested in. I find this a better alternative to Snow White (disambiguation). I find suffixing of "remake" to a film as a valid search term. I would do the same if I was looking for a film remake, or the latest remake if there are multiple. Jay 💬 06:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep As far as I'm aware, the upcoming Disney remake is the most notable (if not the only) remake of a previous film titled Snow White. Mirror Mirror (film) is not a remake of a prioer film; neither is Snow White and the Huntsman. InfiniteNexus (talk) 00:22, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep - Per InfiniteNexus's argument. Fieari (talk) 23:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per Infinite. Disney's remake is the only one I've seen referred to as this and is the most notable as Infinite said. The others do not qualify as a remake. Retargeting to a DAB page and deleting are not viable options as we are supposed to help guide readers, and with the amount of traction the upcoming film has gotten already, I'm sure this will remain a useful search term as those looking for the "Snow White remake" are most likely looking for the 2025 film. Trailblazer101 (talk) 00:01, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete every new unrelated iteration is a new remake -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 05:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
• Delete or Retarget to the disambiguation as a vague term better left to search rather than presumptuosly assuming one specific target is meant. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:32, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

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PanoramaMaker

• PanoramaMaker → ArcSoft  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There is no information about a panorama maker at the target stub, much less a brand called PanoramaMaker. Not currently a helpful redirect. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:25, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

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Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 04:21, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

• Retarget to Comparison of photo stitching software. Jay 💬 14:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
• Delete and AfD Comparison of photo stitching software too. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:32, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

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Baak (Telugu Film)

• Baak (Telugu Film) → Aranmanai 4  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Indian films sometimes do this thing were they reshoot 10% or less of the film in another language. Either way, there is absolutely no need for this redirect when Baak (film) exists. only 10% or less of people interest seeing Aranmanai 4 will likely opt to see this version due to low key release. DareshMohan (talk) 05:39, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: No point of existence. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete: I think this is the same film as Baakghost. It looks like there is no point for this. Cleo Cooper (talk) 06:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC) (Striking account globally locked as an LTA ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 16:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC))

• Keep: This is obviously linked with the Afd of Baakghost. Here too, I suggest to Keep the redirect (and then rename. Baak (Telugu film) if needed, and maybe ask for page protection. Like that, history can be kept and further work on the article is easier. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:33, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
• Move to Baak (film) without redirect as the title has incorrect capitalization which is arguably an RDAB error. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nom. Okmrman (talk) 04:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete Baak (film) already exists, no point in moving stuff around. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:32, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

• Move without redirect to Baak (film) to keep the page history. Baak (film) was created by nom 5 minutes before the nomination. With regards to the target, follow the outcome of the lowercase f RfD WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 1#Baak (Telugu film). Jay 💬 12:58, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Blockbuster Monster Movie

• Blockbuster Monster Movie → Godzilla Minus One  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

could literally refer to any mainstream monster/kaiju movie such as the monsterverse movies Okmrman (talk) 04:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: The Production section of the target article states that [o]n February 18, 2022, Robot Communications announced the film, with the working title Blockbuster Monster Movie (超大作怪獣映画, Chōtaisaku Kaijū Eiga), via a casting call on its official website. If there aren't any other films that have been known by the same title, I'm inclined to keep the redirect for this reason. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 16:08, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

American actress

• American actress → Actor  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This seems oddly and overly specific. I feel like we wouldn't want to make a habit of having nationality-plus-profession redirects to articles on professions that do not have an affinity for nationalities (which most do not). I note, by the way, that American actor redirects to Lists of American actors. BD2412 T 00:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Retarget to Lists of American actors. Much more useful to readers than the current target. Thefficacy (talk) 03:21, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Miscellany for deletion

See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion, as MfD uses subpages for the nominations like AfD but places them within the process's main page.

Speedy deletion

See Category:Candidates for speedy deletion.

Proposed deletion

See Category:Proposed deletion as of 11 May 2024.

Copyright problems

11 May 2024

• June 2024 Ukraine peace conference (history · last edit · rewrite) from https://www.eda.admin.ch/eda/en/home/das_eda/aktuell/dossiers/konferenz-zum-frieden-ukraine.html. Here is the infringing edit. You need to expand the section How many delegations have been invited to the summit? to see the source text at eda.admin.ch. This is just one paragraph, copy/pasted with one small phrase removed, and the copyright says "Copyright, Swiss federal authorities. ... Copyright and any other rights relating to texts, illustrations, photos or any other data available on the Federal authorities' websites are the exclusive property of the federal authorities or of any other expressly mentioned owners. Any reproduction requires the prior written consent of the copyright holder." Boud (talk) 20:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC) (clarify Boud (talk) 21:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC))