Wikipedia talk:Translators available/Archive 1

Archive 1

Resource

Some of the people who watch this page may be interested in Wikipedia:Contributing to articles outside your native language. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:52, Feb 6, 2005 (UTC)

Croatian

What about Croatian translators? Think there's a lot that has to be done regarding this language... --Neoneo13 12:41, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It's exactly what I was wondering. I was surprised to find that Croatian was not listed here. I'll add the section myself and watch this page for further discussion. Denis Kasak 14:19, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Merging

I'm going to merge Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Translators with this page. But about the users liste, should I move them, or easier just delete them? CG 17:59, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

The two pages have been merged. (Va girl2468 13:28, 20 October 2005 (UTC))

New templates

For translators and other editors on more than one Wikipedia, I've created two new user templates. They are both based upon {{user-c}} (which is a compressed version of {{user}}).

If the user name is the same for both Wikipedias you can use {{user-t}}. Type {{user-t|username|wp}}, where wp is the subdomain of the other Wikipedia (e.g. ja for the Japanese Wikipedia at http://ja.wikipedia.org).

If your user name is different for the two wikipedias, you would use {{user-t2}}. Type {{user-t2|username|wp|username2}}, where username2 is the user name on the second wikipedia.

Examples:

• {{user-t|BlankVerse|es}} = BlankVerse (t·c) / es:BlankVerse (t·c)
• {{user-t2|BlankVerse|es|ja|BlankVerse}} = BlankVerse (t·c) / es:BlankVerse (t·c) / ja:BlankVerse (t·c)

More is explained on the talk pages for each template ((see template talk:user-t and template talk:user-t2). If you have any questions or comments, please contact me. ^BlankVerse 11:16, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Updates

{{user-t}} now allows you to use an optional third parameter for the alternate name on the other system.

• {{user-t|BlankVerse|es}} = BlankVerse (t·c) / es:BlankVerse (t·c)
• {{user-t|BlankVerse|es|VersaBlanca}} = BlankVerse (t·c) / es:VersaBlanca (t·c)

In fact, BlankVerse isn't "VersaBlanca", but this is for the sake of example.

This frees up {{user-t2}} to be used for two other systems, with alternate names again optional:

• {{user-t2|BlankVerse|es|ja}} = BlankVerse (t·c) / es:BlankVerse (t·c) / ja:BlankVerse (t·c)
• {{user-t2|BlankVerse|es|ja|VersaBlanca|Haiku}} = BlankVerse (t·c) / es:VersaBlanca (t·c) / ja:Haiku (t·c)

In fact, BlankVerse isn't "Haiku" either; this is still for the sake of example.

The documentation pages (and BlankVerse's own examples above) have been updated to reflect this greater flexibility. -- Ben ^TALK/_HIST 06:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Time to purge some of this list?

I was going through the list, checking anyone without a user page, and then welcoming those editors who hadn't been welcomed. I'm roughly 1/4 through the list, and have already found several entries for editors who did not exist at all. Some of them were probably joke entries (user:MellowYellowFellow), but I have no idea concerning some of the other nonexistent editors.

Once those editors are weeded out, I think there are probably several other classes of editors that should be weeded out. Here are some suggestions on who might be removed from the list of available translators.

1. Anyone listed at Missing Wikipedians who hasn't edited in at least two months and has a goodbye message on their talk page
2. Anyone who has been permanently banned (I think I saw at least one of those) check Wikipedia:List of banned users
3. Anyone who has only edited this page and their user page and hasn't done any editing in at least six months
4. Anyone who has ignored a translation request and hasn't edited in at least two months.

^BlankVerse 12:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, but, if possible, do put a note on their talk page telling them they've been removed, so that if they return they'll know to sign up again. - Jmabel | Talk 20:26, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Was anything ever done about this? I've been coming across a lot of long-gone people in my hunts for translators, and they're really exaggerating the number of available ones. I can go through and see what I can do to clean it up (and add talk page notes), but... Can it have a general timeframe of two months, rather than the various qualifications? Six months without edits is a long time; I highly doubt they'd still be checking their talk page, even if there's no goodbye message. Heck, I'd prefer one month even, but can understand that could be a little pre-emptive. Perhaps one month with goodbye, two otherwise? -Bbik 21:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Proposal: Unless there's some serious objections, since I'm fairly actively working on WP:PNT, I plan on being on and off this page quite a bit, and I propose doing the following in order to make this list actually usable:

1. Remove names who have not made any Wikipedia edits in the past year.
2. Anyone not having edits between 2 months and 1 year will be marked "inactive"
3. Users with edits w/in 2 months will be marked "active"
4. Users who I have contacted and have reiterated their willingess to help will be marked "available as of [date]"

Any objections? AKRadecki 22:19, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Some of the users listed are gone

Since the list easily gets out of date, I think it would be best to install <DynamicPageList> and use it here. That way, you can see who has recently added the babel box to their userpage. --Steinninn 17:26, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

"Imagine Peace" page needs help

My apologies if this is the wrong place for this posting.

Imagine Peace Tower can use translations of the English phrase "Imagine Peace" into world languages not yet represented either among the 24 on the monument itself or in the special WP section for other languages. If there is a choice of wording, select that most in use by ordinary speakers of the language. Display this in the language's usual script if possible, and where applicable put all in upper case. Irv (talk) 16:05, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Update

I'm sorting through the list to see who's been active and who's not. In the process, I'm changing the format to make it a little easier to find out if the person has any recent contributions.

I figure that I'm about a third of the way through the list; if anyone else wants to help out, please feel free. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:30, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

I'd love to help. What would be the activity threshold? And what did you mean by the format? - frankie (talk) 00:32, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

You can see what I did at the first third or so. I was doing the languages in alphabetical order, so "Hebrew to English" is the next one.

I eventually decided that anyone who's edited (at all) this year is "Users active in 2011", and anyone who hasn't is "Users inactive since 2010" (or some such label; I kept changing my mind, and you can use whatever seems sensible to you). I thought that identifying the year would be helpful if it's a long time before anyone sorts through the list again. I wasn't super strict about activity, so if a person only made one edit this year, and there were lots of active editors in that language, then I might call that person "inactive", but usually I thought that one edit was enough to "count".

Also, I changed the format from [[User:Example|Example]] to {{User|Example}}. I mostly follow that with (space)(em-dash)(space) and then whatever text they gave. If the username isn't "English", and the person gave an English-like name (see "JohnMet" in the Greek section for an example), then I thought it was useful to provide the English transliteration.

Thanks for offering to help with this. I really appreciate it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:08, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

My pleasure. I made a quick python script to substitute the wikilinks with the template, the tricky part was the space between the userlink and the beggining of the description. I've made it so the description begins when the character is not space, comma or dash anymore, which I think covers all current cases. Still, I'm gonna change the page by fragments to double check that nothing goes awry - frankie (talk) 02:25, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

What do you think about Gujarati-to-English? - frankie (talk) 18:29, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Mostly, I think that we need to recruit ourselves some more Gujarati-speaking editors. If we haven't got anyone, then we haven't got anyone. We could skip the labels (it's only one name).

I was doing this mostly by hand, with nothing more automated than search-and-replace. It's fantastic that you can do some of this with a script. I'm happy to help clean up any stray problems. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:51, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree that no label is needed. The script is basically a sophisticated search and replace. I'm not sure if it makes it actually easier or quicker, but it really makes it less tedious :) - frankie (talk) 18:58, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

I think the users on the Misc section could be put on the sections above, the only reason I can see they are there is because of multiple languages - frankie (talk) 20:32, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Babel and Template automation

Just wondering why this section has so much verbiage rather than just using Babel ratings?

I could for example add myself into the list of Translaters available French to English

• EdwardLane (talk · contribs) Native English, good French

and also add myself into the list of Translaters available German to English

• EdwardLane (talk · contribs) Native English, good German

But would it not be more useful to have the following?

Translaters available into to English

• EdwardLane (talk · contribs) en-5|en|fr-3|de-3|cy-1|pt-1|es-1|it-1|nl-1

Would it be possible to change the template to include multiple languages?

{{User Translator|en-5|en|fr-3|de-3|cy-1|pt-1|es-1|it-1|nl-1|proofreader=yes|project=no}} 

And even then to autopopulate the lists on this page based on that? EdwardLane (talk) 10:38, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, the Babel ratings aren't very readable. Someone who doesn't know anything about the templates would be utterly lost. Most people don't actually know the two-letter language codes for more than a couple of languages other than their own. Also, people are almost always looking for a person who reads Estonian (or whatever), not for a person who speaks multiple languages, so it makes sense to organize the list according to the target language. Finally, the current system allows people to easily provide additional information, like areas of speciality. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:13, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

An invitation to Wikipedia Open Translation Project

Hi, we are the operations team for Wikipedia Open Translation Project. (Plz let me know if such messages are not allowed to be posted here, thank you)

We are looking for people interested in joining the Wikipedia Anime/Disaster translation activities?

As you might know, there are much less articles in English on Anime and Manga than in the Japanese Wikipedia. Our goal is to close this gap and make the articles equally available in both languages by promoting Wikipedia translation activities.

We created a small-scale Wikipedia page with state-of-the-art translation tools and discussion pages. The discussion pages in the Wikipedia Open Translation Project site enable users with different language abilities to communicate with each other using machine translation.

For example, when translating a Wikipedia article on Anime and coming across a translation problem that even Google cannot solve, English speaking translators can use English to ask help in the discussion pages, where Japanese speaking experts can share their knowledge to help understand these problems. At the same time, English translators can master more authentic Japanese and improve their translation ability quickly. Translators can also make use of the Page Dictionary to include hard to translate words, and help future translators in their efforts.

Finally, we hope to lower the language barrier and bring together translators and experts all over the world to enhance the quality of the multilingual Wikipedia.

Besides Anime, we also imported Wikipedia articles on Natural Disasters. Please have a glance on them if you are interested in contributing to the translation activities. Our project is in it's early stages and we hope to receive your precious advice and comments.

Please refer to the details by accessing to the URL as follow: http://falcon.ai.soc.i.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~wotp/en/index.php/Main_Page

Contact: E-mail: wikiopentran@gmail.com Gtalk: wikiopentran@gmail.com — Preceding Lelia 00:52, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Text on file talk pages

On the pages File talk:Meira Kumar.jpg and File talk:Mukesh Ambani.jpg the same person (117.201.163.123) has put the same content in. What does it mean? George8211 ^{t c} 19:34, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Feedback request: VisualEditor special character inserter

The developers are working towards offering Wikipedia:VisualEditor to all users at about 50 Wikipedias that have complex language requirements. Many editors at these Wikipedias depend on being able to insert special characters to be able to write articles.

A special character inserter tool is available in VisualEditor now. They would like to know what you think about this tool, especially if you speak languages other than English. To try the ⧼visualeditor-specialcharacterinspector-title⧽ tool:

• If you haven’t already opted-in, then opt-in to VisualEditor by going to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures and choosing “VisualEditor”. Save your preferences.
• Edit any article or your user page in VisualEditor. See the mw:Help:VisualEditor/User guide for information on how to use VisualEditor.

The “insert” pulldown on the task bar of VisualEditor will lead you to the ‘⧼visualeditor-specialcharacterinspector-title⧽’ tool.

This is the ⧼visualeditor-specialcharacterinspector-title⧽ inserter. Your feedback on this tool is particularly important.

To let the developers know what you think, please leave them a message with your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on Mediawiki.org or here at the English Wikipedia at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. It is really important that the developers hear from as many editors as possible. Thank you, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:19, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Translation#Translation_Wikiproject_anyone.3F

I'm hoping to create a system where people who need language-specific help post on a page, and translators then put that page on their watchlist. Input would be welcome here Siuenti (talk) 20:33, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Just a note...

It would be helpful if there was a short-cut to this page. Could anyone involved with this page perhaps give that some consideration? Thanks - wolf 08:18, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

@Thewolfchild: Unfortunately most shorcuts were already taken. For the moment I have created WP:TRLA (TRansLAte). Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 22:53, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

@Taketa: Better than nuthin'. Thanks - wolf 00:10, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Different Languages

I Speak Lao and Chuvash and I couldn't help but notice they both didn't have a place for me to add myself to the translators list. Is there a Solution? SciTheory7 (talk) 01:47, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Call to action!

pls see Wikipedia:WikiProject COVID-19/Translation Task Force.--Moxy 🍁 15:21, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Merge tag

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result was merge. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 15:33, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

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I added a merge tag, requesting that Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Translators be merged with Wikipedia:Translators available. It makes no sense having both of these pages when serve the same purpose.Catfurball (talk) 17:03, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Support - No use having two lists. Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Translators is very inactive and the alphabetical listing doesn't make sense. Best to merge. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 17:15, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Support - Two lists make things only more confusing Tessaracter (talk) 14:38, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Support I only found Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Translators by accident, as I happened to notice the merge template on the main page Wikipedia:Translators available. Hopefully, someone will be willing to check the current activity of each editor at the former, move them across to the latter, and post them a note. Alternatively, contact each one, advising them that their entry at Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Translators is about to be removed, and invite them to reenter their details at Wikipedia:Translators available, if they still wish to help. Nick Moyes (talk) 09:23, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Could you translate or ask for translation?

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arzamas — Preceding unsigned comment added by DonGuess (talk • contribs) 03:00, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Manual or Bot cleanup possible?

Need a German translator, came here, found my way to Category:Translators en-de, great it lists 24! Except only three have been on Wiki in the past month (only one this week, guess who I'm going to bother?), seven have never edited Wikipedia beyond their userpage, and the rest have all gone inactive some time in the last fifteen years. Could we try to ensure this doesn't happen? Most people don't have the tenacity to click through 24 user profiles to hope one is active. Perhaps the templates could just be translate-de-2021, translate-de-2020, translate-de-inactive, etc? And then the category shows who has updated their profile categorization in this year, etc? HaltlosePersonalityDisorder (talk) 20:35, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Devendra Fernandes

Hi my name is keya 2405:201:20:B0F9:B8E2:E944:EBE2:CF2C (talk) 12:28, 12 November 2021 (UTC)