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I changed the article text about the Second Bank of the United States to say re-establishment. This is consistent with the article. --Timc 21:04, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

How could this page possibly be allowed to appear without a reference to the fact that it is the anniversary of the disappearance or death of Elvis Presley? Is Joseph Kittinger really more important than that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.9.52.174 (talk • contribs) 13:25, 16 August 2006 (UTC).Reply

Is Presley or Kittinger important ? Everyone has their favourites.... We don't do anniversaries of simple deaths. The death must be significant, as in the end of a dynasty, an assasination, etc. to be featured. Furthermore, the Elvis Presley page now carries {cleanup} and {POV} tags, making it ineligible to get featured on MainPage. And IMO, July 5 is a better date to feature Elvis's article on MainPage. --PFHLai 17:31, 16 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Saint Roch edit

Latest comment: 16 years ago5 comments3 people in discussion

This should be removed. Every day of the year is one saint day or another; it has not been our practice to mark the other saint days, and this is not an especially prominent one. The only reason this was requested is that someone was apparently impressed that Roch is the patron saint of dogs—but this does not even seem to be a major aspect (except in Bolivia, apparently) of Roch's veneration.--Pharos 20:00, 10 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Good points. I guess you can not recognize every saint's day. As I mentioned before, what I was impressed with is that his day is in the dog days of summer. It also seems to be celebrated in Bolivia, as you mentioned, as "The Birthday of All Dogs". Steve Dufour 03:26, 13 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I agree it's sort-of-interesting that it occurs in August, but we have no evidence at all that it's actually connected with the Dog Days. And even if it were, I don't see how that would particularly make it more notable than the other saint days.--Pharos 05:36, 14 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

I would suggest that relative notability be weighted above absolute notability. If this template would become overcrowded, then you would be more than justified to limit it down to the most notable things associated with this day. However, it currently looks like Saint Roch doesn't have much competition. Savidan 16:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Please see August_16#Holidays_and_observances. There are a dozen of these saint days on August 16 alone (the most interesting event on this day is probably the Palio di Siena, actually).--Pharos 19:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Cyprus edit

Latest comment: 16 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

According to Cyprus page, Cyprus achieved independence on August 16, not October 1. Tripledot 08:04, 15 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

True, but they seem to celebrate Independence Day, the holiday itself, on 1 October.[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] Please provide references that show differently. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 14:52, 15 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Woodentop (The Bill) edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago4 comments3 people in discussion

Is it possible to get Woodentop (The Bill) mentioned on the main page on this date? This is the pilot episode for long running police procedural series The Bill and it was broadcast on this day 27 years ago. Is it possible for it to be mentioned? --5 albert square (talk) 23:02, 15 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Currently that article will not qualify with {{Primarysources}}, one of the 'orange'-level article issue tags, on it. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

OK I've managed to reference the article a little more and have now removed the tag for it. Can it be included now? --5 albert square (talk) 12:56, 16 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

The Bill is already included on October 16, so Woodentop is not going to get a separate listing. —howcheng {chat} 09:07, 15 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Ringo Starr (Abbey Road was featured on August 8)
Omitted: Siege of Detroit; Dominican Restoration War; Basilica of San Sebastian, Manila; 1929 Palestine riots; Joseph Kittinger
Included: Battle of Bennington (7th appearance, last in 2010); Klondike Gold Rush (6th appearance, last in 2010); Battle of Elands River (1900) (first appearance); Northwest Airlines Flight 255 (3rd appearance, last in 2008); Yang Yong-eun (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 09:15, 15 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Bennington; Basilica of San Sebastian, Manila; Klondike Gold Rush; Battle of Elands River (1900); Northwest Airlines Flight 255 (ineligible—maintenance); Yang Yong-eun
Included: Peterloo Massacre (6th appearance, last in 2010); Dominican Restoration War (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 150th anniversary); 1929 Palestine riots (3rd appearance, last in 2011); Joseph Kittinger (6th appearance, last in 2011); Elvis Presley (8th appearance, last in 2010)

—howcheng {chat} 06:56, 15 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Edit request on 15 August 2013 edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

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In the first Selected anniversaries item, "1819 – Fifteen people were killed and 400–700 others were injured after cavalry charged into a crowd . . . ", "after" needs to be changed to "when", as in the article. The victims were killed and injured by the charge, whereas when you say "after", it sounds as if it was something subsequent to the charge that killed them. (Whoever did this is far from being alone. This illogical use of "after" is fast becoming a plague). Awien (talk) 11:52, 15 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Done. —howcheng {chat} 16:25, 15 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Battle of Radzymin (1920)
Omitted: Peterloo Massacre; Dominican Restoration War; 1929 Palestine riots; Joseph Kittinger; Elvis Presley
Included: Battle of Guinegate (1513) (first appearance); Battle of Bennington (8th appearance, last in 2012); 1906 Valparaíso earthquake (first appearance); Direct Action Day (first appearance); Ringo Starr (4th appearance, last in 2006)

—howcheng {chat} 10:03, 15 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of the Spurs; Battle of Bennington; 1906 Valparaíso earthquake; Direct Action Day; Ringo Starr
Included: Peterloo Massacre (7th appearance, last in 2013); Dominican Restoration War (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Dole Air Race (first appearance); Joseph Kittinger (7th appearance, last in 2013); Yang Yong-eun (2nd appearance, last in 2012)

—howcheng {chat} 17:18, 14 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Dominican Restoration War; Dole Air Race; Joseph Kittinger (ineligible—maintenance); Yang Yong-eun (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Battle of the Spurs (2nd appearance, last in 2014); San Sebastian Church (Manila) (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Direct Action Day (2nd appearance, last in 2014; 70th anniversary); Elvis Presley (9th appearance, last in 2013)
Repeats: Peterloo Massacre (2nd consecutive appearance, 8 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:40, 15 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Moved to Ineligible: Dole Air Race (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of the Spurs; Peterloo Massacre; San Sebastian Church (Manila); Direct Action Day
Included: Dominican Restoration War (4th appearance, last in 2015); Klondike Gold Rush (7th appearance, last in 2012); Northwest Airlines Flight 255 (4th appearance, last in 2012; 30th anniversary); 2015 Attock bombing/Shuja Khanzada (both: first appearance); Marianos Argyros (first appearance); Ranavalona I (first appearance); Georgette Heyer (first appearance)
Repeats: Elvis Presley (2nd conseutive appearance; 10 total)

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Dominican Restoration War; Klondike Gold Rush; Elvis Presley; Northwest Airlines Flight 255; Marianos Argyros; Ranavalona I (ineligible—maintenance); Georgette Heyer
Included: Battle of the Spurs (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Siege of Detroit (2nd appearance, last in 2011); 1906 Valparaíso earthquake (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Pete Best/Ringo Starr (Best: first appearance; Starr: 5th appearance, last in 2014); John II of Trebizond (first appearance); Ramakrishna (first appearance); Angela Bassett (first appearance)
Repeats: 2015 Attock bombing/Shuja Khanzada (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:55, 16 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Mal Waldron; Saif Ali Khan; Tara Teng
Omitted: Battle of the Spurs; Siege of Detroit; Pete Best/Ringo Starr; 2015 Attock bombing/Shuja Khanzada; John II of Trebizond; Ramakrishna; Angela Bassett
Included: Battle of Bennington (9th appearance, last in 2014); Peterloo Massacre (9th appearance, last in 2016; 200th anniversary); San Sebastian Church (Manila) (4th appearance, last in 2016); Usain Bolt (first appearance; 10th anniversary); Marianos Argyros (2nd appearance, last in 2017); George Meany (first appearance; 125th birthday); Georgette Heyer (2nd appearance, last in 2017)
Repeats: 1906 Valparaíso earthquake (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:58, 23 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Siege of Detroit (maintenance); Northwest Airlines Flight 255 (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Madonna; Abu Nidal
Omitted: Battle of Bennington; Peterloo Massacre; San Sebastian Church (Manila); 1906 Valparaíso earthquake; Usain Bolt; Marianos Argyros; George Meany; Georgette Heyer
Included: Battle of the Spurs (4th appearance, last in 2018); Klondike Gold Rush (8th appearance, last in 2017); Battle of Radzymin (1920) (first appearance; 100th anniversary); Direct Action Day (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Elvis Presley (11th appearance, last in 2017); Ranavalona I (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Robert Bunsen (first appearance); Saif Ali Khan (first appearance; 50th birthday)

—howcheng {chat} 03:37, 18 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (ineligible): Treaty of Speyer (1570) (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Jozef Tiso's speech in Holič
Omitted: Battle of the Spurs; Battle of Radzymin (1920); Elvis Presley; Ranavalona I; Robert Bunsen; Saif Ali Khan
Included: Dominican Restoration War (5th appearance, last in 2017); 1906 Valparaíso earthquake (4th appearance, last in 2019); 2015 Attock bombing/Shuja Khanzada (both: 3rd appearance, last in 2018); Theodore II Laskaris (first appearance); Elsie Inglis (first appearance); Tara Teng (first appearance)
Repeats: Klondike Gold Rush (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total; 125th anniversary); Direct Action Day (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 75th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:50, 17 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

2022 notes edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Dominican Restoration War; Klondike Gold Rush; 1906 Valparaíso earthquake; Direct Action Day; 2015 Attock bombing/Shuja Khanzada; Theodore II Laskaris; Elsie Inglis; Tara Teng
Included: Peterloo Massacre (10th appearance, last in 2019); Jozef Tiso's speech in Holič (first appearance; 80th anniversary); Stanley Internment Camp (first appearance); Pete Best/Ringo Starr (Best: 2nd appearance; Starr: 6th; both last in 2018); Typhoon Wayne (1986) (first appearance); Ranavalona I (3rd appearance, last in 2020); Georgette Heyer (3rd appearance, last in 2019); Marian Rejewski (first appearance)