Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany
Latest comment: 15 years ago by SandyGeorgia in topic Referencing system
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- You've mixed using the Template:Citation with the templates that start with Cite such as Template:Cite journal or Template:Cite news. They shouldn't be mixed per WP:CITE#Citation templates.
- Otherwise links checked out with the link checker tool. Sources looked good. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Reply Hi, thanks for the comment. But I am not sure where the problem occurred. I have checked the article, but cannot point it. Could you please give the cite numbers with which the problem occurred. Thanks. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 14:09, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- It's not so much that I found them with a footnote, but I click on the "edit this page" tab and scroll to the bottom where the templates used are listed. It lists both Citation/core and some of the cite templates. Are you trying to link the footnote itself to the bibliographcial entry with citation? Ealdgyth - Talk 14:16, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Further, it's your {{cite journal}} refs. The journal articles use the cite template while the book ones use Harvard, which relies on citation. You can't use Harvard with the cite templates. Hope this helps! Ealdgyth - Talk 14:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Since this is my first FA nom, I am bit confused. Are you suggesting I should replace all the Harvard referencing with {{cite book}}? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 14:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, didn't mean to be confusing. If you want to use Harvard, you need to not use any cite templates. So you'd need to replace the cite journals with the appropriate form for Harvard (I don't do Harvard, so I can't help you there.). Alternately, you can replace all the Harvards with the cite templates that are appropriate. Or you can type all the citations out manually. (That's the option our Sandy prefers). You just can't mix up the Harvard style citations with using the {[tl|cite journal}}, as I'm told it can cause occasional glitches in formatting. Does that make sense now? I'm not going to tell you which style to use, I really don't care, I'm just letting you know that you can't mix the styles, that's all. Hope this explanation makes a bit more sense. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- This one is more complicated than the norm because it uses the Template:Harvard reference, which is deprecated and shouldn't be used at all. I cleaned up all the cite journals, but found the referencing so confusing that I didn't know how to take it to the next step, since Harvard references shouldn't be used at all (it is the Harvard refs that are causing the call to the citation template). There are two choices (see WP:CITE#Technical details): switch to all cite xxx family, or replace all the harvard templates with citation and use only the citation family. If you want to switch to the {{citation}} method, a sample is at Samuel Johnson. If you want to switch to the cite xxx family of templates, a sample is at Ima Hogg. I would add that, besides using a deprecated method of citing, the citing in this article results in so much markup and excess items in the text that is extremely difficult to locate and edit the prose. I've not seen an article cited like this before, so I'm not sure where this hybrid method originates. It doesn't matter which citation method is chosen, but switching to one or the other is going to take some elbow grease and time. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, didn't mean to be confusing. If you want to use Harvard, you need to not use any cite templates. So you'd need to replace the cite journals with the appropriate form for Harvard (I don't do Harvard, so I can't help you there.). Alternately, you can replace all the Harvards with the cite templates that are appropriate. Or you can type all the citations out manually. (That's the option our Sandy prefers). You just can't mix up the Harvard style citations with using the {[tl|cite journal}}, as I'm told it can cause occasional glitches in formatting. Does that make sense now? I'm not going to tell you which style to use, I really don't care, I'm just letting you know that you can't mix the styles, that's all. Hope this explanation makes a bit more sense. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Since this is my first FA nom, I am bit confused. Are you suggesting I should replace all the Harvard referencing with {{cite book}}? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 14:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Reply Hi, thanks for the comment. But I am not sure where the problem occurred. I have checked the article, but cannot point it. Could you please give the cite numbers with which the problem occurred. Thanks. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 14:09, 31 July 2008 (UTC)