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Q241

The first appearance of which ghost cost the Pakistan Test team dearly? --Dweller 13:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Neil Mallender with his impressive bowling in England v Pakistan, 1992, 4th Test. --Wisden17 14:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Correct. Mallender's nickname of "Ghost" (or "Ghostie") was a reference to his extremely pale colouring. On debut, he took for 5-50 (8-122 in the match) for England against Pakistan in 1992. Picked as a seam bowling specialist for Headingley, aged 30, he played only one more Test, finishing his career with the rather impressive average of 21.5. Well done, Wisd - your turn. --Dweller 15:53, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Do you get notified if you get a question correct?WillE 16:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, sorry I'not posted a question sooner (been too busy invovled with cricket!) --Wisden17 19:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Q242

Right, this is a laws based question, and for the right answer I'd like not only a number, but an explanation. A ball is delivered, and the umpires calls No Ball, the striker hits the ball (with his bat) and it goes straight up into the air, and is falling down towards his wicket. He hits the ball a second time, with his bat, to stop the ball from hitting his wicket. The ball flies off to third man, where the fielder throws the ball back to the keeper. The batsmen have started to run, but have not crossed when the fielder fields the ball. The throw goes wide of the keeper, and heads off towards long on. The batsmen have completed two runs and have crossed on the third when the fielder at long on fields the ball. His throw is poor as well, and before the batsmen have completed their third run the ball crosses the boundary. How many runs are scored, and why? --Wisden17 19:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Right - is anyone out? Perhaps. The striker hit the ball twice, but the second time only to guard his wicket, so that should be OK under Law 34.1 and 34.3 (Hit the ball twice). But the ball went straight up, so perhaps a fielder got close enough to take a catch but was prevented from doing so by the batsman "wilfully" getting in the way by hitting the ball a second time. If so, the striker could be out under Law 37 for obstructing the field. However, I assume not, and also that the striker did not hit his wicket, and indeed neither batsman has done anything else to get out.

So, assuming neither batsman is out, how many runs are scored?

There was a no ball, so there is a penalty of one extra in addition to any other runs under Law 24.12. We also have a boundary and overthrows, so Laws 19.5 and 19.6 are in point. Law 19.6 applies rather than 19.5, so the following runs are scored:

19.6(i) the one-run penalty

19.6(ii) the boundary 4

19.6(iii) the runs completed by the batsmen, together with the run in progress if they have crossed at the instant of the throw or act (yes, they have, for the second throw).

So, 1 extra, a boundary 4 for the striker and another 3 for the striker (7 in total for him, and 8 in total for the batting side), and the striker has to remain at the opposite end to the one where he was on strike. Phew. -- ALoan (Talk) 19:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I want to know how the ball gets from long on to the third man boundary while the batsmen run less than half a run. :-) Stephen Turner (Talk) 21:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps he throws it in the wrong direction (i.e. into the crowd behind him - must be Monty...)? -- ALoan (Talk) 22:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't quite get your point Stephen, I think you may have misread the question. Aloan you answer is not correct (remember we need both the correct numerical answer and correct explanation). --Wisden17 00:48, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Stephen's point is, I think, that the batsmen have crossed on their third run when the long on fielder throws the ball, but only manage to complete that run by the time the throw crosses the boundary. You would expect them to be able to run another run while the ball is in the air, but, if my explanation is right, any further running by batsmen is irrelevant anyway. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

As a quick guess, I would go for 1. The extra for the no ball. After the batsman hits the ball twice, is the ball dead? (or he could even be out) KingStrato 05:59, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Not dead under Law 23, as far as I can see. He could be out, in which case there would be no runs, of course. I can't see where my explanation above is wrong, either numerically or in terms of explanation. Shrug. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:24, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

ALoan has the number of runs right, and correct explanation from Law 19.6, but neglected to mention that both the 3 runs and the boundary only count because they resulted from overthrows (Law 34). If the batsman had crossed before the first overthrow, only 2 runs would be scored. Interestingly, the batsman scores 3 runs, although only one of them was completely run during the relevant period. JPD (talk) 10:28, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Good point - I neglected to mention Rule 34.4(b) and (c), pariticularly 34.4(c)(iii) "if the ball goes to the boundary as the result of a further overthrow, then runs completed by the batsmen after the first throw and before this final throw shall be added to the boundary allowance. The run in progress at the first throw will count only if they have not crossed at that moment; the run in progress at the final throw shall count only if they have crossed at that moment". -- ALoan (Talk) 10:57, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Right well I think JPD will have to get the credit for this question. The reason being that whilst Aloan got the numebr of runs right the explanation was incorrect. Law 34.4 is one of the most interesting (and little known) parts of the laws. To answer the question you need to realise that there have been two overthrows. At the instant of the first overthrow the batsmen had failed to cross on their first run, and thus (under Law 34) are credited with that run. At the instant of the second overthrow they had crossed, and so are credited with that run as well (and of course the boundary allowance, the penalty for the no ball, and the one completed run, in between the two overthrows: giving a total of 8 runs). I see what you mean Stephen (I should have perhaps had the fielder at long on deliberately kicking the ball over the boundary (which is treated as a "wilful act" under Law 19.6, and so would have resulted in the same answer). --Wisden17 15:12, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Story of my life - though your face is charming, it's the wrong face... -- ALoan (Talk) 16:48, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'm not sure I deserve more credit that ALoan, but here goes... JPD (talk) 16:54, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Q243

I am thinking a day where 482 runs were scored in a test match, and 10 wickets were taken, resulting in a win/loss by an innings and more than 100 runs. One of the losing team passed 150. When was it? JPD (talk) 16:54, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe you're talking about India's third Test in Australia in January 2000. The high score for India was by VVS Laxman..... In other news, hi all, I am back! -- 128.122.81.23 18:33, 4 August 2006 (UTC) Woops, I was not logged in there, sorry -- Deville (Talk) 18:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

That's the one - 4 January 2000. A very good day's cricket it was. JPD (talk) 14:38, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Q244

I will list 20 Test cricketers, please tell me the common thread which binds them (and noone else) together: Zaheer Abbas, Habibul Bashar, Donald Bradman, Alistair Campbell, Mark Dekker, Sunil Gavaskar, Herschelle Gibbs, Conrad Hunte, Len Hutton, Sanath Jayasuriya, Andrew Jones, Jacques Kallis, Maurice Leyland, Roshan Mahanama, Mushtaq Mohammad, Shahriar Nafees, Bill Ponsford, Garry Sobers, Dilip Vengsarkar, John Wright. -- Deville (Talk) 20:14, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Second wicket partnership records for their countries? Johnlp 20:55, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Correct! Wow, that was fast. I figured this one was doable, but I thought it'd take longer. You're up. -- Deville (Talk) 21:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Q245

Thanks. I'm looking for a Test captain who played for a national cricket team against a touring side that was representing his own country. Not only that, but he top-scored against his compatriots. Johnlp 21:45, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

• Steve Waugh for Ireland against Australia A in 1998? [1] Sam Vimes | Address me 22:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

That's the one. Well done. And over to you. Johnlp 07:14, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Q246

Keeping with the Associates. The England Cricket Board XI, an XI of amateur cricketers, represented England at the European Championships from 1996 to 2004, but are not in the current European Championships in Scotland. The ECB XI have dominated so much that in five attempts, only one full national squad have won the title. Which team? Sam Vimes | Address me 17:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I am a bit confused. As far as I can tell, Ireland won in 1996 and the Netherlands in 1998 and 2000. JPD (talk) 18:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, the Netherlands have won Division 1 twice, in 2000 and 1998. ECB won Division 1 in 2004 and 2002, and Pool A in 1996 ... -- ALoan (Talk) 18:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Gah...the question was wrong. Sorry. I meant the Netherlands, but of course I took too quick a look on the 1996 page. *sigh* Oh well, I think I'll hand it to JPD because he listed the correct winners. Sam Vimes | Address me 19:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

The tables in CricketArchive's page for 1996 are rather odd, given what the equivalent page on Cricinfo says... -- ALoan (Talk) 21:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Q247

Which Test cricketer played an important role in the development of rugby league in Australia, several years after being involved in an Australian rules football club? JPD (talk) 13:02, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Is that Victor Trumper Mdcollins1984 13:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes. 2 minutes is pretty quick! JPD (talk) 13:43, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Q248

This is probably slightly too easy for my first question but "Which player started his test career with 1 run in 6 innings - only three people have scored more double-centuries than him?" Mdcollins1984 13:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Marvan Atapattu 0,0,0,1,0,0 & 223,216*,207*,201*,201,249 --Bedders 14:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations. Your turn Bedders. Mdcollins1984 08:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Q249

In my last test match I took 13 wickets, to complete what was at the time an unique hat trick. It has since been bettered by only one player. Who am I? --Bedders 07:24, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Demon Spofforth? -- I@n 07:45, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

It was Clarrie Grimmett, who took his 3rd consecutive 10-Wicket Haul in his final test Vs South Africa in 1935/36 (13/173 in that match), not bettered until Murali took 4 consecutive 10-Wicket hauls in 2001 - and he's just done it again! Dingbatdan 08:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Correct, over to you, I'm running out of questions :) --Bedders 08:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Q250

Who bowled the first ball of the final over of a ODI with a paper cup? Dingbatdan 14:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Was that Fanie de Villiers? Aha, here we go, there's the scorecard-- Deville (Talk) 14:22, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Only 12 minutes - impresssive/depressing! Over to you... Dingbatdan 23:49, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Q251

Speaking of time, what is the largest time interval between the Test debuts of two brothers? And who are they? -- Deville (Talk) 04:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

John and Richie Benaud must be close. 1972 and 1952. -- I@n 06:31, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Johnny & G. Ernest Tyldesley? The former debuting in 1898/99 and the latter in 1921 (22 years, 3 months)? Dingbatdan 08:00, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Ian, you were close. I believe that the Benaud brothers are second on this list, but the answer is in fact the Tyldesley brothers. Ask Steven Anyway, Dingbatdan, it's all yours. -- Deville (Talk) 00:04, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Q252

One of the most famous cricketers of all time, I represented my country at three other sports - who am I and what sports were these? Dingbatdan 01:08, 13 August 2006 (UTC)~

C. B. Fry held a world long jump record, played Rugby Union at a senior level and represented England in football (soccer) I'm uncertain about country representation in the 1st two. -- I@n 01:45, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, not Fry - I'm not sure about the long jump, but I'm pretty certain he didn't play international rugby. Dingbatdan 02:11, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

It's not Johnny Douglas, is it? He played cricket, boxing and football for England. QazPlm 07:05, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Jeff Wilson played cricket and rugby for New Zealand and, I believe, he also played basketball and competed in track and field. KingStrato 07:07, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Neither one, sorry guys! I found this in a book, not on the net...don't know how hard it is to find... I'll give a clue if no-one gets it soon Dingbatdan 08:31, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

WG Grace, I'll wager? Bowls, High Hurdles and ermmmm.......WillE 14:08, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure this is not whom you're thinking of, but Eric Tindill deserves a mention here, and qualifies for your question if read in a strange light. Anyway, Tindill played Test cricket and Test rugby for New Zealand (the only man to do both) and also represented NZ in table tennis. As for the third sport, I can give a third distinction: today Tindill is currently the oldest living person to have played Test cricket. -- Deville (Talk) 15:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Maurice Turnbull played 9 tests for England in the 1930s, as well as playing international Rugby and Hockey for Wales. He was also a regional squash champion. Maurice was killed in action in the second world war and sadly is still only a stub on Wiki. [2] Mdcollins1984 17:47, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

None of the above...Hint: He's a carribean cricketer. Dingbatdan 23:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Gary Sobers "...excelled at other sports, and played golf, football, basketball and dominoes for Barbados." -- ALoan (Talk) 00:12, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Bingo! Interestingly enough, my source said golf, football and table tennis...coupled with this info that's 5 sports + cricket!...over to you! Dingbatdan 07:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I removed dominoes from the article as its not sourced and it sounds suspiciously like a bit of vandalism that's snuck in somehow. The golf, football and basketball seem to have been taken straight from the Cricinfo article. -- I@n 07:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

On the other hand a google search turned up this, so I'll put it back. -- I@n 07:33, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Any chance of a question? --Dweller 09:59, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

This was a great question! -- Deville (Talk) 11:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

It was. It'd be nice to have another question now. --Dweller 11:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

While patiently waiting, perhaps you could start the article that's now needed on the Barbados dominoes team. ;-) Johnlp 12:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I hear they knocked the spots off their opposition. --Dweller 13:28, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure it shouldn't be Barbadian dominoes team? Stephen Turner (Talk) 17:55, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Q253

Who was the first Test captain to ask the opposition to bat after winning the toss, and when? -- ALoan (Talk) 13:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Percy McDonnell. 1886/7. --Dweller 13:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I've just added this info to McDonnell's article, along with the curious information that his decision paid off, inasmuch as England were dismissed for just 45; however, Australia still lost the match. --Dweller 13:53, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I thought I would get more than 16 minutes out of that one![3] Well done. And double well done for updating an article - that is what this quiz is for, after all. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Q254

Apologies for appalling lack of poetry skills and any factual inaccuracies. No apologies for trying to be innovative!

--Who am I?--

I went on a tour, not expecting a test

But ended up plying a trade (not my best)

I tasted success like I’d never before

But was dropped from the side for a year or more

I played just two more Tests, now in my regular slot

But hardly improved on what I’d already got

In later years I took up the pen

Before changing roles dramatically again

I took a central role in the game

A clue? I had a girl’s middle name.

By Dweller 15:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I fully expect that anyone answering the question will do so in limerick form. --Roisterer 15:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Stewart Cathie "Billy" Griffith, Wicketkeeper who had to open batting. Later cricket correspondent of The Sunday Times and Secretary of the MCC. Sorry for the lack of a rhyme to present the answer, must try harder. --Bedders 15:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

There once was a young man named Billy

Who became the MCC Secretary

He played for England three times

He wrote for the Times

And played first class for MCC, Sussex and Surry

Magnificent! (And correct). In 1947/8, aged 33, he toured West Indies as assistant manager (and reserve wicket-keeper) to the MCC (England) team. By the time of the second Test, England were badly depleted by injuries and illness and Griffith was selected as a stand-in opener. He scored 140, his maiden first class hundred... in his first Test match.

Curiously, GM Carew equalled Griffith's rare achievement when West Indies batted, also making his maiden first class century.

Players recovered and Len Hutton was flown out to bolster the side - to no avail; the tour was something of a disaster for England. Griffith was not picked again for England for around 13 months, when he played twice versus South Africa. His further progress as a batsman can be measured by the fact that his career Test aggregate was 157.

--Dweller 15:50, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Q255

A six year test career, but less than 50 wickets but still took 2 five wicket hauls. Played for 3 different English county sides; a specialist bowler with first class and test bowling averages over 30. --Bedders 07:26, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Peter Such? Johnlp 12:33, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I was very surprised that he didn't have a better first class average. Over to you --Bedders 13:39, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Q256

Which Test cricketer was, in separate incidents, shot by a woman and run over by a taxi? The latter proved, in the end, more serious. Johnlp 14:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Me. --Dweller 15:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. Johnlp 15:06, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Nicely quirky q btw --Dweller 15:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Q257

Who am I?

Lack of rhythm gave me the blues.

Wides and no-balls put me in the news.

Look at my average! The Kiwis must've wished I was fitter.

Look at my name! It sounds like a titter.

--Dweller 15:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Martin Snedden? -- Deville (Talk) 15:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Not who I'm thinking of. Colin isn't really that funny. --Dweller 15:46, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I see what you are shooting for now. I'd have to go with Heath Davis then. -- Deville (Talk) 15:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Correctamundo! I saw him play in a one day game against Surrey (harlequin-capped David M Ward and a very young Adam Hollioake won the game for Surrey with some magnificent hitting) and couldn't believe the scorecard when I read his name. --Dweller 15:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

That page is a complete copyvio. Or was, until I just reduced it to a stub. Stephen Turner (Talk) 16:01, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I did wonder when I saw it myself! --Dweller 16:08, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Dweller said : Not who I'm thinking of. Colin isn't really that funny.  : Is Dweller so old that the Snedden that he recognises is Colin Snedden and not Martin ? :D Tintin (talk) 12:54, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Nope. The question referred to Heath Davis' giggle-a-like middle name. Martin Snedden's middle name is Colin. Which is perhaps mildly amusing for some, but doesn't sound "like a titter". --13:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Q258

There are nine stadia (on nine different islands) in the West Indies which have hosted Test matches. How many of these are located in nations from which no a Test cricketer has yet to emerge? Name them. -- Deville (Talk) 16:22, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

To clarify: I presume you mean How many of these are located in nations from which a Test cricketer has yet to emerge? Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 16:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

And I believe it is two: Beausejour Stadium in Gros Islet, St Lucia and Warner Park Stadiumin Basseterre, Saint Kitts and Nevis. Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 16:32, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with the wording, I changed the structure of the sentence midway and the double negatives didn't propagate through far enough...:P However, unfortunately, your answer is incorrect. -- Deville (Talk) 16:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Just Saint Lucia?

Saint Lucia has produced at least one ODI player in Darren Sammy: our article says that "He was the first international cricketer to emerge from St. Lucia", echoing cricinfo, but he has not played in a Test yet.

Joey Benjamin was born in Saint Kitts, and I can name Test cricketers from the others, Barbados, Trinidad, Guyana, Jamaica, Antigua, Saint Vincent, Grenada (oh, and Guyana is not an island :) -- ALoan (Talk) 16:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Correct. Runako Morton is from Nevis as well. Sorry, Sam, you were very close! Over to you, Aloan.

Also, Guyana has to be an island. I mean, if you ask any Guyanese if they're "from the islands", they'll invariably answer yes. Although I grant you it's not an island in the strictest sense of the word (you know, the one involving whether it is actually surrounded by water)....;P -- Deville (Talk) 17:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Grrr. Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 17:23, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I will not be in a position to pose and check the answers a question for the next few days - would Deville or Sam Korn like to ask instead? -- ALoan (Talk) 12:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Sam, you can go ahead with a question if you'd like. -- Deville (Talk) 16:24, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

You're too kind. :-) Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 21:18, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Q259

Recently, Jon Lewis made his Test debut for England having seen both sides of his thirtieth birthday. Only two other bowlers have done this and then gone on to take 100 Test wickets. Name them. Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 21:18, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Dilip Doshi & Clarrie Grimmett? Dingbatdan 22:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

That is they. Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 23:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I have to say that I did not expect to see Grimmett as the answer there; somehow I find it very surprising that he got his first cap at 33! -- Deville (Talk) 01:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Q260

Seeing as Ramprakash currently has a bradmanesque 100+ average in the county championship season to date, I ask who was the last man to finish with a county season average >100? Dingbatdan 08:07, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Graham Gooch (1990) - the other batsman since WWII is the panama wearing Geoff Boycott -- Mdcollins1984 09:00, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I think that's right, but don't forget Bill Johnston in 1953 did it too. Johnlp 09:07, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Damien Martyn averaged 104 in 2001. Tintin (talk) 11:18, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I am not quite sure what the minimum requirements are (in terms of matches played/runs scored), but Salil Oberoi ended the 2005 season with a batting average of 108. He played for Oxford University and is listed at the top of the 2005 first class batting averages. --Blowtorch 13:15, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

The question says "county championship season". I understand this to exclude Damien Martyn's tour/Test matches and Oberoi's university ones. Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 14:07, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Nobody's got it so far - Sam Korn is correct - I specifically mean 'county championship season' - and Gooch averaged a measly 99.12 in the 1990 season. Also, assume 1,000 runs as a minimum requirement (Sorry, forgot to say that earlier). Dingbatdan 14:34, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Ian Botham, 1985, 1211 runs at 100.91. --Roisterer 04:26, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Correct! He is the only man to have such an average save Boycott and Hammond (post-war) - It was quite a surprise to me when I saw it. Dingbatdan 05:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)