Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/United States Constitution

Description edit

WikiProject has been created: WP:COTUS

The proposed WikiProject United States Constitution would be a project dedicated and focused on improving and maintaining articles related to the United States constitution, and Bill of Rights (apart of the constitution). This would be a great group to focus on tasks at hand for improving the United States' law of the land. I am so excited to get this started, and feel free to contact me about my proposal. CookieMonster755 (talk) 20:22, 29 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of important pages and categories for this proposed group

List of WikiProjects currently on the talk pages of those articles
Please invite these and any other similar groups to join the discussion about this proposal. See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory to find similar WikiProjects.
Why do you want to start a new group, instead of joining one of these existing groups?
Because these groups focus on more abroad issues. The United States group, focuses on everything involved in the United States (especially geographic features). Creating a new group would help take a load off the current groups, and help editors collaborate better, and discuss only articles related to the United States Constitution.

Support edit

Also, specify whether or not you would join the project.

  1. CookieMonster755 (talk) 20:22, 29 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support. Not sure of participation. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 07:41, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support. I would participate. GregJackP Boomer! 00:13, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support. I would participate. –Prototime (talk · contribs) 02:54, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support. I would also participate. bd2412 T 12:32, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Support. I would also participate. Probably not a whole heck of a lot of active participation, as I'm quite busy with other obligations these days, but I'll look in and see how it's going at the start. — Cirt (talk) 00:26, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

  • Comment: I applaud the effort but there are already too many dead projects, the scope of this one is too narrow to be of much use and all the articles affected are already in multiple other already mostly dead projects. 96.255.237.170 (talk) 21:25, 29 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: This is an interesting idea. I copy edited the United States Constitution article to about twice its existing size a couple years back to become one of the longest on Wikipedia. More experienced editors helped me spin off the subordinate article, History of the United States Constitution. My primary interest is historical rather than legal.
The "See also" section at History of the United States Constitution include Constitution Day (United States), History of democracy, Hillsborough Convention, List of proposed amendments to the United States Constitution, List of amendments to the United States Constitution, Republicanism in the United States, Second Constitutional Convention of the United States, Timeline of the United States Constitution, Syng inkstand. I can imagine that there would be other candidate articles for the project scope.
One could logically expand to include related topics such as conventions bearing on the use of the Constitution in American political life such as the Hartford Convention or the South Carolina Secessionist Convention. Also consideration of the historical interpretations of Supreme Courts classed by their Chief Justices, such as the Marshall Court. It seems to me that state constitutional conventions would be a little further afield, but related in interest.
Does the historical aspect of the Constitution or any of these other domains enter into your vision of the project? TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 07:38, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@TheVirginiaHistorian: Your ideas are amazing! Wow, this would really make the proposed project become a reality! You could even help me run this WikiProject! Expanding articles related to the constitution, and cleaning-up, and even nominate and pass articles related to the constitution as a GA article! If you would like to talk more about this, please feel free to contact me. I would love your amazing skills and help to get this started if it is accepted! Let's talk soon! CookieMonster755 (talk) 05:29, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment What about creating a task force of WPUSA for this instead of a new wikiproject? -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:13, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
65.94.43.89 - The United States WikiProject deals with everything associated with the United States. That's alot of work. We would get much more work done on articles related to the constitution if we had its own WikiProject. You may contact me for more details if you are interested. CookieMonster755 (talk) 05:29, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, a task force, which would segregate collaboration efforts about the Constitution from the main project without needing to create a new project. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:06, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think a new WikiProject for this would have much more befits than a task force, but thanks for your suggestions! CookieMonster755 (talk) 04:20, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
So, make a US Law wikiproject. Or task force. Its purview would of course include the supreme law. Jim.henderson (talk) 22:23, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I support this idea, but it should of course be broader than simply the original text of the Constituttion and the Bill of Rights; it should include the articles on all 27 amendments, clauses, Supreme Court cases interpreting constitutional provisions, the drafters, and so forth. –Prototime (talk · contribs) 02:57, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Prototime - Yes, this project would work on anything related to the Constitution. Founding fathers, Supreme court cases regarding the Constitution, all the amendments and failed amendments, and the drafters, any anything else related to the Constitution would be apart of the project. Thanks for your support! CookieMonster755 (talk) 17:42, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry, but while this is an interesting topic, it's not broad in scope enough to merit a dedicated project. A US Law project would get my unequivocal support. Even if you broadened the proposal to US Constitutional law, I don't think I could support a full-blown project on that relatively narrow topic given the current level of development of law articles generally. —/Mendaliv//Δ's/ 22:06, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]